Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Athinais Culture Center

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The result was no consensus. — Coffee // have a cup // beans // 19:15, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Athinais Culture Center

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I'm not an expert in this area, but I couldn't find reliable sources to verify WP:NOTABILITY. I always hope to be proved wrong on articles like this though. This has been tagged for notability for 7 years (tagged by Carlossuarez46; hopefully we can now get it resolved. Boleyn (talk) 10:56, 11 April 2015 (UTC) Boleyn (talk) 10:56, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

delete - my goodness the links for finding sources turn up literally nothing. not notable. nice catch! Jytdog (talk) 13:03, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Have you searched in Greek Jytdog?♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:49, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

i have not. this is Wiki-en and i limit myself to english searches, generally. have you? do you have facility and greek and are you willing to provide translations for verification? Jytdog (talk) 16:03, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 16:06, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 16:07, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I know enough Greek to be comfortable about fixing Google translate errors. The correct name is Athinais Cultural Center (Greek: Αθηναΐς Πολυχώρος Πολιτισμού). Both terms get a decent number of hits. The venue is used for many business-type meetings (e.g. "Google and the Foundation for Economic and Industrial Research (IOBE) present a study titled “The Internet in Greece: Obstacles and Prospects”"), commercial events (e.g. "The Meet Market: A 3-day Christmas celebration of the entrepreneurial spirit") and exhibitions (e.g. "Ancient Cretan Collection at the Athinais Source") The building itself is of some interest. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:15, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Per Aymatth2.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:02, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for pointing that outAymatth2 - oy! as an event location it indeed sure to turn up in google tons of times. However, we are not a directory and notability is not based on # of google hits. I did a google search 10 pages in and found lots of passing mentions but no substantial articles about the center. what sources are there about the center that show it NOTABLE? same to you Dr. Blofeld Thanks! Jytdog (talk) 21:05, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A place can be notable for what happens at the place, rather than for what the place is. Battlefields are often like that. All that matters is whether there are reliable independent sources that discuss the subject or aspects of the subject in some depth. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:09, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

that is kind of true for some things, (depending what they are) but we have no sources saying the center is NOTABLE for anything. Not its architecture, not Important Things that Happened There. nothing. We have a directory entry. WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Without them, there is no justification for keeping this article. If you are not willing/able to present sources you should let this be deleted; you can create it again later when there is a valid WP article that can be written. Jytdog (talk) 22:12, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sources don't need to say xxx is notable because. Do you think all of those National Registry listed barns and shacks in rural Iowa etc are really notable? All a subject has to have is fair coverage in multiple reliable sources which this appears to have. It's a public building and regular venue for events so should meet GNG.♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:12, 16 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz ^Humbug! 19:02, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 17:51, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete without prejudice due to a lack of non-trivial coverage from reliable third party publications. Regards, Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 18:51, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep~~ Per Aymatth2♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:19, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Dr. Blofeld, I think you've accidentally voted twice. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 19:30, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not accidentally, it's been relisted!♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:36, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Dr. Blofeld. Relisted or not, one is not allowed to vote more than once so I have crossed your second comment. Cheers, — Yash! ^(Y) 16:31, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If something is relisted you'd presume it concludes that there was no consensus in the former listing and the slate is wiped clean to obtain another consensus.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:33, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

AFDs are relisted to get a clearer consensus and not another consensus. Votes before the relisting are considered as well as after it. — Yash! ^(Y) 17:05, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.