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kevin from bsb

i would like 2 sms or contact kevin how do i do that or whats his e-mail adress? He is such a soft & gentle man. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.207.39.254 (talk) 16:06, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

No idea who that is and this is not the fuorum to solicit contact information. Wildhartlivie (talk) 18:50, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

GA Reassessment of Lucy, Lady Duff-Gordon

Lucy, Lady Duff-Gordon has been nominated for a good article reassessment. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to good article quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are here. --Malleus Fatuorum 23:12, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Tagging for WP Death

And finding a range of death categories that have mysteriously had biography added by a now blocked user - as at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Cardiovascular_disease_deaths_by_country - anyone object if I remove the Biography tag at 'death' items - they do not seem appropriate in the way that I understand tagging. Any feedback appreciated

NOT to be confused with my tagging XXXX deaths - example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:2002_deaths - which I can see the viability of the mix of biography and death templates at those categories Satu Suro 07:39, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

I am not sure that I understand the problem or the difference that makes one category within the project scope and the other outside of it. Could you please expand your reasoning? Road Wizard (talk) 02:10, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about delay in response:- The blocked user had added biography tags on various disease death categories - but only a few - whether by extension - is it then that all death categories then follow as potential biography items as well? But if the death project now exists - is that sufficient to have Death tags rather than biography?

The second item is the year death categories seem to have death and biography - and it seems to make sense Hope that might explain it Satu Suro 01:13, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

I would say that any category intended to include biographies would fall within the Biography project. Where the two projects overlap it is likely that you will see duplicated tags; however the Biography project wouldn't normally stray into the articles on death processes (brain death, decomposition) or death customs (funerals, cremations) so only the Death tag would be seen there. Road Wizard (talk) 18:19, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Lorenzo Donati

Can someone take a look at the history of this biography? It seems a right mess. I don't have any books on me at the moment so I'm not sure if the footballer, the composer that was previously written about, or both are a hoax, although I don't remember a player by this name ever playing for Watford. Note also that if it is genuine, the original contributor clearly has a COI. Thanks in advance, WFCforLife (talk) 08:21, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I don't know about the football player but the composer seems genuine. However the article appears to be a direct translation of the composer's biography on an Italian website. I have flagged it for consideration as a possible copyright violation (I would have flagged it for speedy deletion but am unsure whether the act of translation voids the copyright). Road Wizard (talk) 00:23, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

No, translation doesn't void copyright (translations can themselves be copyrighted). Fences&Windows 23:05, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Moira Anderson - Copyright breach??

Resolved

– The website has copied text from Wikipedia, rather than the other way round. No action required. Road Wizard (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

This entry for Scottish singer Moira Anderson appears to be a straight, unaltered lift from the New Musical Express Online website:

http://www.nme.com/artists/moira-anderson

Lookover —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lookover (talk • contribs) 15:20, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification, but it is the other way around. If you look at the bottom of their article you will see that they acknowledge the text comes from Wikipedia. Road Wizard (talk) 17:47, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Don Watt's Obituary

I was interested to read Wiki's version of Don Watt's life and compare it to the Toronto Stars Obit as below especially of interest is the comment about the Canadian flag

In Wki under Don Watt there is no mention of it and it is credited to George Stanley any comments anyone ?? Timbitts3 (talk) 20:52, 6 January 2010 (UTC) Tim Bayley

I removed the copyright violation of http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thestar/obituary.aspx?n=don-watt&pid=138070496. If an article is bad or incomplete please improve it with without copyright violations. Hekerui (talk) 21:12, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Carol Stephenson

I have a question about false negative content on a biography page - is it OK to delete it? There are no articles supporting the content.

The page in question is the biography of Carol Stephenson

Mcheater (talk) 14:20, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

What content would that be? Wildhartlivie (talk) 19:50, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Unsourced content that is potentially libellous should be deleted according to WP:BLP. Simply write "Unsourced and contentious", or something to that effect, in your edit summary. -Duribald (talk) 06:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Kathryn Leigh Scott

The article on Kathryn Leigh Scott states that she was born Marlene Kringstad on January 26, 1943. I was wondering what the source material for this was.

Two of the sources cited in the article, Memory Alpha and IMDB.com both give her date of birth as January 26, 1945. However, in her book My Scrapbook Memories of Dark Shadows, Ms. Scott tells of the time that she wanted to join Fidel Castro's revolution when she was 16. That would indicate that 1943 is the correct date of birth.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Game6E3 (talk • contribs) 18:40, 7 January 2010

I have added a "citation needed" flag to the article. Hopefully an editor familiar with the subject will be able to provide a source. Road Wizard (talk) 01:55, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Carl Warburg

I have created the article Carl Warburg. I am a fairly new editor on Wikipedia. I have made a start on content. Any help in additional content, or advice/feedback/suggestions on the article, would be welcome. Thanks--Roland Sparkes (talk) 02:15, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

I have essentially finished by contribution to this new article, Please can the article be given a quality rating by this WikiProject? --Roland Sparkes (talk) 00:28, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

RATING REQUIRED. I have expanded and improved this article a lot more lately, please can the article be reviewed and a new quality rating be assigned. Thanks--Roland Sparkes (talk) 11:56, 9 January 2010 (UTC)Roland Sparkes (talk) 10:28, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Normally you would request the assessment of an article at Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Assessment, but I will save you a bit of time and take a look at the article now. Road Wizard (talk) 14:04, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

John Kingmans

The article on John Kingman includes elements about Sir John Kingman (academic, statistician) and his son (civel servant, banker) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.206.88 (talk) 13:00, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to correct the article, and bring the issue up on the articles talk page, where you can specify what's wrong with it. :-) -Duribald (talk) 14:21, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Maurice Rostand

Hello. I just happened to check this bio and saw where Maurice Rostand died in 1968. I was the au pair to the grandson of Jean Rostand's cook and gardener. I lived with them in the attic of Jean Rostand's house in 1971. I remembered being warned that when I returned home late at night I had to be very careful because M. Maurice tended to roam the property at night with his pistol. He seemed to think his brother Jean was in danger from someone and was protecting him. I was terrified he would accidentally shoot me. I would call out: "C'est moi, M. Maurice!" I barely knew him, but I'm pretty sure he was alive. I think he lived nearby. (Jean Rostand lived at 29, rue de St. Cloud, Ville d'Avray). Anyway, if someone could check this date, I would appreciate it. Merci. Julia Samantha (talk) 03:52, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: The Article on Henry Clay

The first paragraph states that Clay was known as "Henry of the West". In fact he was known as "Harry of the West" (from Shakespeare). Please research and correct, it's offensive. See also... James MacGregor Burns " The Vineyard of Liberty" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.31.93 (talk) 05:25, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Paul troost

A somewhat minor mistake: Paul Troost decorated the fast LinerItalic text Europa, a prestigious transatlantic ocean liner,(launched 1928) holder of the blue ribband (later Liberté under french flag after the americans unadvertedly set fire to the Normandie and offered war prise ex _ german Europa as a compensation)...the link seems to redirect to a sail training ship by the same name which started an useful but unglamorous career in 1911 s a lightship. Though Europa and her sistership Bremen were actually launched before Hitler came into power, both ships , along with "poular cruise" ships Whilelm Gustolff and Robert Ley were widely used as propaganda tools by nazi Germany —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.46.3.183 (talk) 20:17, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Susan Ertz wikipedia entry

Hello, I am new to wikipedia but have been troubled by the information listed on Susan Ertz' wikipedia entry. Some of the information listed is incorrect and somewhat biased. I have written extensively on her and would like to be able to contribute to this wikipedia page if at all possible. How does that work? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lynne122 (talk • contribs) 06:07, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Article deleted

I have just deleted Richard W. Schneider as it was a blatant copyright violation of [1]. After removing all the copyright violated text there was nothing left of any value. However, looking at the website it was copied from, it appears that he is notable enough for an article. If anyone would like to recreate the page from scratch, please feel free! Stephen! ^Coming... 17:47, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

two new biographies

I added the Wikiproject Biography template to the talk pages of Lily Eskelsen and Dennis Van Roekel.--Thelema12 (talk) 22:38, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Basehead GAN

Basehead is a current GAN. Does anyone want to review it? (Ibaranoff24 (talk) 21:12, 13 January 2010 (UTC))

Horace Wells Biography

The date of first successful administration of the vapor of ether at the Massachusetts General Hospital was October 16, 1846 and not October 18 as given in the biographical entry about Wells

cyevens 10 Cyevens10 (talk) 03:15, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Disputes regarding page of 'Peter Kronschnabl'

I notice this page was tagged for using 'peacock' terms, and objectivity being suspect (non-neutral POV). On behalf of the BMW India communications team, I have edited the content in order to rectify these perceptions.

I would very much like to have the article brought under discussion again in order to receive feedback on the current version and clear these tags.

Thanks.

122.160.229.99 (talk) 07:19, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

John_Paget_Figg-Hoblyn#Figg-Hoblyn_Estate.2C_Cornwall

I'm concerned about some of the speculative and unsourced commentary in this section breaching BLP, even if it is mostly positive. --Dweller (talk) 10:19, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Harry Hughes (footballer)

Additional to his footballing career, based on personal memories:

Harry Hughes managed (owned?) a sports shop at the bottom end of Guildford High Street for an unknown period around 1969-70. He later moved to manage the Tottenham Hotspurs sports shop, duration again unknown.

86.178.224.190 (talk) 12:14, 19 January 2010 (UTC) mark.sinden@tesco.net

Doug Hutchison

Someone should update the Wikipedia entry for Doug for his menacing and convincing appearance in the 24 premiere! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.201.35.51 (talk) 19:02, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

You can do it! -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:04, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Miroslav Mika Antić biography

His most famous poem was most certainly not "Srem". It is "The Immortal Song" along with the "The Myth of Bird" and "The Blond Wad". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.252.72.22 (talk) 19:14, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Marnie Weber and Party Boys

The Marnie Weber page is linked to a band she was in called Party Boys. The link goes to a page describing a band named Party Boys but it is the wrong band. I guess there were two bands called Party Boys. The one Marnie was an LA band and I guess they dont have a wiki page but they should. The Party Boys (LA) released three LPs in the 80s. They were described as:

""The Party Boys come from the deserted inner section of Los Angeles, a district of grumbling derelicts and crumbling warehouses where only aliens and artists dare to tread. By day their world thunders with trucks, crates and trains as loading orders are barked in Spanish. . . Come 6 p.m. downtown Los Angeles turns into Mars. Nobody speaks any language because there's nobody there. The whole city becomes a giant echo chamber. It's then that the Party Boys come out to play. In lofts, galleries, old warehouses, and bars the Party Boys, a six member coed crew, play relentless beats . . . You could even dance to them if you were desperate." Andrea Enthal, SPIN MAGAZINE 1986"

http://vertigo73.blogspot.com/2007/11/party-boys-no-aggro-1984.html --Thermatico (talk) 03:10, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Albarran was born in Cuba, when it was a Spanish colony. He studied medicine in Barcelona and traveled to Paris, where he spent his entire career as a urologist. His full name is Joaquín María Albarrán y Domínguez. The name on the text is therefore wrong: changing the place of "María" and put it after Joaquin. It is old spanish customary add to male name a "María". The first surname is Albarran and second surname is Dominguez (Spanish citizens have 2 surnames, formerly the names had amid the "y"). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.88.64.30 (talk) 09:35, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

about name

Albarran was born in Cuba, when it was a Spanish colony. He studied medicine in Barcelona and traveled to Paris, where he spent his entire career as a urologist. His full name is Joaquín María Albarrán y Domínguez. The name on the text is therefore wrong: changing the place of "María" and put it after Joaquin. It is old spanish customary add to male name a "María". The first surname is Albarran and second surname is Dominguez (Spanish citizens have 2 surnames, formerly the names had amid the "y"). FM Sánchez-Martín. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.88.64.30 (talk) 09:39, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

inconsistency

There are inconsistency in the article Cilou Annys : 1th is not the truth. It may be 1st or it may be 4th, 5th ... It is possible that the number is wrong, or the “th” is wrong. I do not know what of that is wrong or true. Please check it. --Diwas (talk) 12:38, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

WP 1.0 bot announcement

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Biographical information; pedigree; family history and descendants

I'm very interested in family history information related to the pedigree and descendants of James Clark Ross and Sir John Ross. I know there is a book "Polar Explorers" that includes some of this, and there are people actively researching family connections to the Ross family. I'd like to see information amalgamated in a "Ross-wiki-genealogy". (a) is there already such a forum? (b) can one be made, linked here, or sourced here? 118.210.253.95 (talk) 03:27, 22 January 2010 (UTC)S. G

How to title an event that is linked to a person so it is not a biography

I think there is some overall confusion in how Wikipedia deals with events which are linked to a person who is not famous in their own right. As an example I'm struggling with the title for a page I created on Munir Hussain and victims' rights. If someone is famous or infamous in their own right, such as J. K. Rowling or Papa Doc Duvalier, then a biographical entry of them is clearly the right way to go. However Munir Hussain is not famous in this way and, in my view, anything which is not relevant to the burglary and retaliation should not be in this Wikipedia entry.

OTOH if it is an event that is notable, such as the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake, then the entry should be about the event and titled as such. But the event concerning Munir Hussain was about a burglary in High Wycombe, and clearly 2008 High Wycombe burglary is not a good title :)

I think the title as chosen: Munir Hussain and victims' rights, balances identifying the event, which people primarily identify or "google" through Munir Hussain, and signalling that it is not a biographical entry about Mr. Hussain.

The inconsistency in titling is ironically shown on Munir Hussain's page with the link to the main entry on Tony Martin (farmer), which looks like it should be a biographical entry about Tony Martin whilst it is really all about his violent response to burglars on his property and the consequences.

So should the title be Munir Hussain and victims' rights, signalling that it is not a biographical entry, or Munir Hussain (businessman) to be consistent with Tony Martin (farmer)?

Aarghdvaark (talk) 18:38, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

good question - not sure. Munir Hussain victims' rights controversy? 2008 Munir Hussain burglary? 2008 Munir Hussain controversy? If it's not a biography, I suggest it's better not to be categorized with Category:Living people or Category:XXXX births (which are for people) Dsp13 (talk) 19:25, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Ruth Buzzi

I am trying to clarify which statue her father carved. Her brother told me it was John Ericsson, maker of the screw propellor. Her bio says Leif Erikson. Her brother said that the staute was pictured on a postage stamp, but both have been featured on stamps. Pleae help.

I don't know how this thing works, so could you contact me at woodyhillbandb@verizon.net.74.97.138.120 (talk) 22:00, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

This is in response to Falcon8765 (talk) 23:22, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

As I am doing this for the first time, I am not sure this is the right place and method to respond to the message from: Falcon8765 (talk) 23:22, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

My site www.aathavanitli-gani.com is a 100% non-commercial, no-profit site, dedicated to preservation of lyrics of old, memorable Marathi songs. It has only lyrics and does not play any audio. It does not violate any copyrights. I am running this site for almost 7 yrs. In short, this site is not for any personal or commercial gains. You may check this.

Since Wikipedia (English) has specific pages for Marathi poets, composers and singers, etc. it would be complimentary information to know all the details of their work, such as the songs they have written, composed or sung, etc. www.aathavanitli-gani.com is a definitive resource on the web for all Marathi songs and their related information.

Also Wikipedia (Marathi) (http://mr.wikipedia.org) has already thoroughly wetted www.aathavanitli-gani.com and granted access to add links of this nature.

Please feel free to check out the website to verify the claims I have made about and allow me to put external links on related pages of Wikipedia (English).

I repeat this is only for preservation of Marathi language. Thanks and regards, Aathavanitli.gani (talk) 04:57, 23 January 2010 (UTC)Aathavanitli.gani

Place/country of birth

I couldn't find the respective information in the project page, but maybe there is a WP policy out there someone of you knows about.

I stumbled across the issue in the article on Rudi Dutschke. His place of birth is Schoenefeld, the small city where former East Berlin's airport is located. And here we are: Dutschke was born in 1940. At this point in time "East Germany", which is given as his country of birth, did not exist yet. The official name of Germany was "Deutschen Reich" then (until 1943 when briefly switched to Grossdeutsches Reich). In 1949 Deutsche Demokratische Republik (GDR) - informally called East Germany in by people in West Germany - was founded. Dutschke lived in GDR until 1961, moved to Berlin (West), and later to the UK and Denmark, where he died in 1979. GDR ceased to exist in 1990. So East Germany neither was in existence when he was born, nor is it in existence now - and is a colloquial expression, anyway.

So my question is: Are there conventions on the country of birth if countries change?

Best regards, jan --JanBarkmann (talk) 11:59, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

I think that's just a case of false info and it should be noted specifically where people were born since former countries have articles on the Wiki. I fixed the article, if someone has bothered writing a specific policy I'd love to see a link, too. Hekerui (talk) 12:16, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

GAR notification

Letting people know that an article under this project's scope, Ian McDiarmid, is undergoing a good article reassessment. You can read the concerns at Talk:Ian McDiarmid/GA1. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 17:40, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Category:People associated with the 2010 Haiti earthquake

Category:People associated with the 2010 Haiti earthquake has been nominated for renaming, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 January 24.

76.66.192.206 (talk) 03:46, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Request for assistance

I am new to editing, and appear to be having some difficulties. I have worked to improve the Michael Guy article and while i have added sources, cleaned up language, and even improved the structure of the article it appears that I am missing something. If there are any editors that can help I would appreciate it. Any pointers are also welcomed. --Magicus69 (talk) 08:16, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

L. L. Langstroth

I recently edited Langstroth's biography. Most of the changes I made were grammatical. About the only major change I made to actual content was to state that Langstroth was popularly believed to be the discoverer of the bee space, when in fact the bee space was already in use in Europe. From everything I've read about it, I believe this is the case. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpilting (talk • contribs) 01:32, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Merv Leitch

Hi, I'm one of the children of Merv Leitch, and just discovered this page. I'm trying to find out who authored it, since none of the family (so far) seems to have any knowledge about it. I don't object to it per se, though there are some things that need correction. But I would appreciate being contacted by the author to discuss.

Jim Leitch Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

Jazzhed (talk) 14:33, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

You've left a message at the user's talk page. You also have the option of emailing him, since he has e-mail enabled. See Wikipedia:E-mailing users for how. Articles on Wikipedia may be created by any contributor and generally are not created by those with an affiliation to their subject. In fact, Wikipedia discourages those with close association from creating articles; see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Very likely, the author of the article just felt that your father was an appropriate subject for inclusion. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:39, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Leon Levine

I have done a few edits to Leon Levine, the owner of Family Dollars page. I request that it be taken out of the stub category. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nomad2u2001 (talk • contribs) 20:20, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Michael_Powell_(politician): NPOV issues

The article (and the media content associated with Powell) seem to be distributed in a fashion as to promote and/or advertise the politician and his actions. See here for the post. Doomed Rasher (talk) 01:16, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

English?

I know he was born in London, but he played for Wales and his last name gives it away that he is Welsh. So i think this should be changed from English to either British or Welsh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.177.129.210 (talk) 00:02, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

We have over 3 million articles here. The name of the person you are talking about would be extremely helpful. Road Wizard (talk) 00:15, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Good English?

Category:Poetasters is proposed for deletion!
Object or support -- voice your view 'ere completion!
Shall Wikipedia ignore the profound connections among all
The glorious rhymsters likeWilliam McGonagall,
McIntyre, Moore, McKittrick Ros,
Or J. Gordon Coogler (some might think it a loss),
But others [to comply with WP:CANVASS provisions],
Might deem this deletion a darn good decision.
Decide for yourself, and (here [2]) make your views known,
On the category for poets for badness renowned!
-- JohnWBarber (talk) 17:54, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Discussion regarding article on Afzal Khan

I doubt the neutrality of the section regarding Afzal Khan's death in the article. It seems to have been written in a manner of the texts that glorify Shivaji. Simplefont (talk) 18:30, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Begelman material

Some of these events are put in such a confusing way that the timeline seems out of kilter. We know that Robertson touched off a series of investigations into the shady world of Begelman in the 1970s. And that Begelman's account books were also investigated by Garland's people. However, the conclusion of it could not have affected her since Garland had already been dead since 1969. So please clarify. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.102.217.239 (talk) 17:17, 30 January 2010 (UTC)