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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on February 3, 2022.

Msi (computing)

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was retarget to MSI. WP:SNOW retarget as an incomplete disambiguation. (non-admin closure) ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 13:07, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly retarget to MSI#Computing, but also ambiguous with Micro-Star_International, which is not in that section. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 21:47, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Esta e a Nossa Patrai Bem Amada

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 20:19, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Implausible typos, no incoming links, and all results in Google are a result of the creation of these Wikipedia redirects. Second one was already attempted to be speedily deleted in 2010, with the nominator calling it "absurd". · • SUM1 • · (talk) 19:14, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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May Kinetal massacres

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The result of the discussion was delete. Normally I would consider a situation like this, where the nominator and only participant was CU-blocked, to be no quorum for deletion, but as the initial editor was also a blocked sock and the nomination statement's argumentss are valid, I'm going to go ahead and delete. signed, Rosguill talk 20:19, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This redirect points to deleted content. It's a leftover after Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/15 February 2021 Addi Geba massacre was determined "Delete". The redirect pointed to a section [1] listing the four now-deleted articles. Platonk (talk) 18:55, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Fog Version

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Khalid Abdel-Gabar

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The result of the discussion was delete. I will also delete Khalid Abdel Gabar for the same reason. -- Tavix (talk) 19:04, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:RFD#DELETE #1. See this as my basis for this request. I was the creator of the redirects that were deleted there and my reason for this current RfD is almost identical as well with what I linked. Engr. Smitty Werben 13:25, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Introduction to DNA

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 20:13, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Genetics and DNA are two separate pages. For this reason, the nominated redirect is misleading. Steel1943 (talk) 17:36, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-Hausdorff

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Hausdorff space#Examples of Hausdorff and non-Hausdorff spaces. (non-admin closure) Heanor (talk) 11:20, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - This link is misleading, as it redirects to "non-Hausdorff manifold", but any reader encountering "non-Hausdorff" will interpret this to mean a "non-Hausdorff topological space", which in general has nothing to do with a manifold. Furthermore, a non-Hausdorff space is just a space that is not Hausdorff; there is no need to have a redirect of "non-Hausdorff" to Hausdorff space either, just for being the negation of that concept. Also note that no page currectly links to the redirect.PatrickR2 (talk) 04:23, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom — I think the chance of this redirect causing actual confusion for more than a few seconds is minimal, but even that small potential harm outweighs the redirect's negligible benefit. --Trovatore (talk) 23:57, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak retarget to Hausdorff space as Template:R from antonym. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 21:30, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • That would also be OK. --Trovatore (talk) 03:00, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • I respectfully disagree with this retarget. Looking at examples of it seems that in many of these cases, at least in mathematics, both the concept and its antonym are useful concepts in their own right (example, "anisotropic quadratic form" versus "isotropic quadratic form"). But in this case "non-Hausdorff" is just a convenient adjectival form for saying "not Hausdorff", i.e., purely the negation of "Hausdorff". This is not a concept that merits a link in itself. Otherwise, with that same logic any concept "A" would have a corresponding redirect from its negation "non-A", which is unnecessary cluttering and makes little sense. If someone wants to mention that a certain space is not Hausdorff, they can say something like "space X is not Hausdorff" without having to link via non-Hausdorff. Remember also that in this particular case no one is currently using non-Hausdorff as a link. PatrickR2 (talk) 04:07, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Mx. Granger: I can understand your suggestion coming from an outsider, but note that both Trovatore and myself have advanced degrees in mathematics, and for mathematicians an economy of thought and expression (Occam's razor) is important. Absolutely no personal disrespect meant. (And I apologize if you do have a degree in mathematics.) PatrickR2 (talk) 04:16, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • I don't feel redirects need to be kept quite so tidy. There are lots of redirects that don't serve any real purpose, but are also not worth the trouble to delete. (If I'm honest, I've created not a few of them myself.) The original target was arguably slightly misleading and conceivably worth deleting; the proposed retarget would not be (but would have negligible positive value).
        So basically my view is I'm OK with either deleting or retargeting, and I've already spent more time on this one than it's worth, so I won't be commenting further. --Trovatore (talk) 07:03, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • For what it's worth, I do have a degree in mathematics. I think a retarget to Hausdorff space makes sense, because as you said, non-Hausdorff purely means "not Hausdorff". The article Hausdorff space provides exactly the information a reader needs in order to understand what non-Hausdorff means. Similarly, Non-commutative redirects to Commutative propertyMx. Granger (talk · contribs) 07:51, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        • @Mx. Granger: I understand what you are saying. If non-Hausdorff was already redirecting to "Hausdorff", I would not have bothered to remove it. In this case, it points to something we all agree is incorrect, namely "non-Hausdorff manifold", and this has to go. Retargeting it to "Hausdorff" amounts to deleting the incorrect redirect and introducing a new redirect to its negation (that nobody is using right now anyway). What I am saying is that last introduction is not necessary (if someone introduces it in the future for a specific purpose, they can do it at that time). Otherwise, staying in the field of topology, why not gratuitously introduce redirects for "non-compact", "non-connected", "non-locally connected", "non-regular", "non-completely regular", "non-collectionwise normal", "non-paracompact", "non-metacompact", etc, etc, etc, just in case? (rhethorical question of course) But I will go with whatever the consensus ends up being. PatrickR2 (talk) 01:11, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
          Note that in this case, non-Hausdorff spaces are described in the article. (On that note, I have just created a couple redirects in the spirit of Non-metrizable space.) ~~~~
          User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
          22:20, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • retarget to Hausdorff_space#Examples of Hausdorff and non-Hausdorff spaces - a useful search term. My suggestion is directly meaningful. Loew Galitz (talk) 05:34, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Notified of this discussion at the current and proposed targets.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay (talk) 17:22, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Hausdorff space per Mx. Granger; no strong feelings about whether targeting the subsection (as suggested by Loew Galitz) is better. —JBL (talk) 01:52, 5 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget, Rename and Delete As others have mentioned, "non-Hausdorff" without further qualification usually refers to a space. In this sense, the current redirect is usually misleading. To fix this, the existing redirect needs to be retargeted. Then, to clarify the meaning and prevent misleading in the opposite sense, the redirect should be renamed to "non-Hausdorff space". Finally, because it is not used and not currently needed, it should be deleted. This way, should it be revived, it'll be revived with a good name, with the right target. --RainerBlome (talk) 02:16, 12 February 2022 (UTC)However, so this is where pointing[reply]
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JimmyHere

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The result of the discussion was Speedy delete per WP:CSD#G7. Thryduulf (talk) 17:48, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 16:09, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Ningla A-Na

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History of The Church of Jesus Christ

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Church of Jesus Christ. (non-admin closure) feminist (talk) 10:42, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vague, not a clear topic. Redirecting to anything would imply the target was founded by Jesus Christ, that it would be the assembly (church, ekklesia in Greek) Jesus Christ created, and thus would be POV. Even claiming that Christianity was founded by Jesus Christ is POV on top of being POV against every Christian denomination which believes in the One true church and other Abrahamic religions.
I recommend deletion. Veverve (talk) 20:02, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Mx. Granger: good idea of retarget. @Laurel Lodged and A7V2: what do you think of this retarget proposal? Veverve (talk) 21:13, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with this being the right option. While it is preferable, I don't think it's true that since there is no primary topic for "Church of Jesus Christ" that we automatically assume that there can't be one for this. The two articles specifically about the histories of Churches by this name aren't even linked on Church of Jesus Christ. A7V2 (talk) 22:24, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Another relist attempt as there is no support for the status quo.
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Return to launch site

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Mambo Kingz

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 10#Mambo Kingz

DJ Luian

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Benignity

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The result of the discussion was keep. signed, Rosguill talk 20:10, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading redirect, because it leads to an article which describes exactly the opposite term. This can also be discussed at the Benign tumor talk page. Instead, Benign should redirect to Benign tumor. —CrafterNova [ TALK ]  [ CONT ] 09:01, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: As Benign (disambiguation) has been trimmed to have only one entry, and is an invalid disambiguation now.
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Lovejoy (Band)

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The result of the discussion was delete. signed, Rosguill talk 20:10, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We don't usually keep redirects with miscapitalized disambiguation. There's no reason this is any different. Page history isn't useful or necessary for attribution. Elli (talk | contribs) 02:53, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Repeated recreation of Lovejoy (band) despite consensus for context wizzito | say hello! 03:27, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Mike Hart (outfieldr, born 1951)

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The result of the discussion was delete. As an erroneous page move to an unlikely misspelling, that lasted for less than 2 days. Jay (talk) 04:11, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Misspelling while moving article. Delete as implausible search term. CSD disputed. Bison X (talk) 01:23, 3 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Brain Sucker

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