Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vernon Ashley

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Consensus is for the article to be retained. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 00:25, 26 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Vernon Ashley

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No evidence of independent notability, very little source support. Jdcomix (talk) 01:51, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of South Dakota-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 04:54, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 04:54, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. While there are certainly claims in the article that might qualify him if they were properly sourced, nothing claimed in the article automatically entitles him to keep it just because he existed — and the only sources present are a WordPress blog and his death notice on the website of the church that held his funeral, neither of which are reliable sources for the purpose of establishing notability. No prejudice against recreation in the future if somebody can dig out enough archived coverage in media about his work to get him over WP:GNG, but nothing in this version cuts the mustard at all. Bearcat (talk) 17:18, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep-I added 2 more citations: 1.-The Governor of South Dakota ordered the flags at the South Dakota Capitol at half mast in memory of Vernon Ashley 2.Vernon Ashley was interview on Minnesota Radio. Vernon Ashley was the head/chief of a Native American tribe. The article shuld be kept since according to United States law, Native American tribes are concerned sovereign tribal nations-thank you-RFD (talk) 18:50, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That's not how notability works. Your source for the flags flying at half-mast is a government press release, not media coverage. Which means MPR is the only notability-assisting source here, but that's not enough sourcing to get him over WP:GNG all by itself. Bearcat (talk) 04:19, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I added a citation from the Argus Leader-thank you-RFD (talk) 09:01, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Argus Leader citation is a 100-word blurb, not substantive coverage. Bearcat (talk) 13:54, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Here's an article about him being named chief (including biography), another biography and an obituary with biography (all from Capital Journal, a RS) and here is an article in Rapid City Journal from 2012. Also, here are some older articles from newspapers.com: [1] [2] [3] (part 2). WP:BASIC is met with this coverage which spans newspapers from all parts of the US, not only local. Regards So Why 08:45, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To evaluate the sources brought by SoWhy.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Godric on Leave (talk) 10:23, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Per SoWhy. He was a significant tribal leader as verified by multiple reliable sources.--Arxiloxos (talk) 16:08, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I did a quick search and found sources. Ross-c (talk) 22:20, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.