Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shaye Washington (Damus)

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The result was delete. Spartaz ^Humbug! 03:15, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Shaye Washington (Damus)

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Appears to be WP:1EVENT. reddogsix (talk) 19:08, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Delete A7 there's not even one notable event here. Her Facebook page and the White Pages (!) are certainly not acceptable, I've removed them. power~enwiki (π, ν) 22:17, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Do Not Delete. How can you Say that there is not one notable event when there is in fact at least 3. Her being the first African American Flower Girl Designer to be featured in the Vogue’s bridal magazine is not notable. I surely. Would like to know what you all consider notable. Her being nominated for mother of the year is not notable. Which is all is he form of national news and headlines. Please explain what notable is because notable to means something that is important and worthy of attention and this is not, but this site is full of articles about individuals that does not even come close or equate to the accomplishments of Ms. Washington

Do not Delete: There are several notable and respectable references in regards to this article. Vogue House, The News, The New Paper, Exclusive Interviews with CBS and The Today’s Show, Magazine Feautures, News Paper Articles.

This woman has broke barriers and overcome homelessness and now helps the homeless. This previous event just shed light on things she had already accomplished.

Delete I evaluated the sources and information, and searched for additional sources. From a Google News search,[1] it appears that she received quite a bit of significant coverage in many secondary, reliable sources in several countries. The problem is that all the coverage is in relation to the single event/video that was posted. I think this is a case of WP:ONEEVENT. It's true that the subject's participation in the event was substantial, but the event itself does not seem to be notable enough for an entry (not enough in-depth coverage over time to indicate significance). If the event isn't notable enough for an entry (as indicated by continuing coverage), it means this woman's participation is not notable enough for an entry. That being said, if this person gets in the news with this much coverage for another event, or the event received continuing coverage over the next few months, or if the woman receives additional coverage about her as an individual (as opposed to in context with this event), that might be enough to satisfy notability. However, when I searched for additional sources, I couldn't find anything about this person except in relation to this event so I'm voting delete. Lonehexagon (talk) 17:38, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment-Your argument actually contradicts the guidelines in which you are trying to uphold. You are saying you are basing your argument specifically on a google search. In which you said there were several reliable sources in other countries. Does it matter what country the sources came from, as this is a worldwide encyclopedia? Continuing coverage? The initial coverage was over two weeks ago and if you look on google the most recent was 2-3 days ago. Along with her soon to appearing on the Ellen show. Being nominated for Mother of the year and the Colorado’s Outstanding woman of the year awards. Again I vote do not delete. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jd192581 (talk • contribs) 21:43, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I understand where you're coming from. I have had articles deleted before and I know how frustrating it is. The problem with this article is all the coverage about her is in relation to a single event, and that doesn't automatically confer notability according to the Wikipedia guidelines. If you read WP:ONEEVENT, it states that someone must be known for more than a single event, or if they are known for a single event, their participation must be substantial AND the event must be notable. I have not see significant discussion about the event in a way that makes it seem notable. What would that Wikipedia article be named? Do you have citations for these awards that contain significant discussion about Shaye Washington? It may be a case of WP:TOOSOON. This person needs to gain coverage about something unrelated to the event, or the event must continue to receive ongoing coverage to indicate that it's notable enough for its own entry. Lonehexagon (talk) 05:56, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I’m also looking at articles like Danielle Bregoli. How do you get a Wikipedia page for saying “catch me outside”. Why is that even important to American history any anyone’s history for that matter. Jd192581 (talk) 22:53, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jd192581 Notability is not about importance, or value to history/humanity etc, but just that you have reach notability in the world as set out in the guidelines. Many of the modern 'celebrities' like Danielle Bregoli I also personally see little value in, however as you'll see on the article Danielle Bregoli she has been covered in many reliable sources over a period of time, and is now also 'notable' for her 'music' that has charted in multiple counties. Shaye Washington (Damus) so far only has sources for the single event, with the other claims unsourced. If Danielle Bregoli had nothing more than the coverage for the "catch me outside" viral video she also would be unlikely to have an article. Hope that explains the difference. KylieTastic (talk) 14:40, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Could we possibly put this in Jd192581's draftspace so they can work on it a little more and then submit it again? Lonehexagon (talk) 05:56, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Any article up for deletion for notability (rather than copy vio etc) can be moved to the users area or draft if they user wants to continue to work towards notability - Always happy to see that. However in this case they have made no attempt to address any of the issues and find any sources for any of the many unsourced claims. KylieTastic (talk) 13:14, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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