Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Satoko Kiyuduki

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Spirit of Eagle (talk) 05:02, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Satoko Kiyuduki

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Internet searches yield nothing in the way of notability for this person. They have an ANN page with three listed works and some mentions. One of their manga obtained an Oricon ranking, but if anything, it is the manga which may be notable and not the author via WP:ITSA. KirtZJ (talk) 02:33, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your research and your request for deletion, which has given me the opportunity to find more sources. First I'd like to note that both of her manga that have been translated into English, as well as the anime adaptation of one of them have all independently ranked on Oricon:

GA anime: http://www.oricon.co.jp/prof/491644/products/838072/1/
GA manga (ANN cache): http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-09-03/japanese-comic-ranking-august-24-30
GA manga again (ANN cache): http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-11-02/japanese-comic-ranking-october-24-30
Kuro manga (ANN cache): http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-02-01/japanese-comic-ranking-january-23-29

She also had an exhibit in Yokohama of original drawings for her GA manga that received some coverage in Japanese [1][2]. Kuro won a "Great Graphic Novels for Teens" award in English. [3]

Oricon does not cover console games (that I'm aware of), where she's also done notable work. In English, Siliconera and IGN have mentioned her work as a major component of Dept. Heaven titles[4][5][6][7], and Famitsu has done the same in Japanese[8][9] as well as covering the game adaptation of her GA manga.[10] Also, while it's a first party source, she was repeatedly included in interviews with the directors of the games she worked on due to the importance of her contribution to the visual identity of the games (links are to an unofficial translation since the originals aren't online).[11][12][13]

I agree that if only her manga were notable it'd make sense to not have an independent article, but since her work in manga and games are mostly separate and stand on their own I think it's appropriate to have an article for her as a creator. I think the sources here make a case for notability, but if you think not please tell me. (and sorry for not rounding them up earlier, looking at other manga artists I saw several with a single ANN reference unchallenged and thought that was enough.) --Polm23 (talk) 06:20, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions. (G·N·B·S·RS·Talk) • Gene93k (talk) 19:13, 4 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per Polm23's findings. The references show notability for the author outside of her works. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 22:11, 5 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:42, 8 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Esquivalience ^t 01:56, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per above. She's been involved with and created multiple notable series, so she'd pass notability guidelines on those guidelines. The rule of thumb is that if an author has multiple notable series, that would show notability for the author. Her impact in the gaming world is a side bonus that helps establish notability a bit more firmly, but she'd pass NBIO for just the two manga series. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:49, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've tagged the page as needing a translation from the Japanese page, which contains a lot more information. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:55, 15 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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