Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nemo Sandman

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete both. Patrick Eris has not been discussed much here, but the notability of that subject is heavily intertwined with Sandman's, so I feel that the discussion here is sufficient justification for its deletion. In particular, Nemo Sandman is the only article that links to Patrick Eris. --Sam Blanning^(talk) 10:35, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nemo Sandman and Patrick Eris

Completely unverifiable articles. No sources provided, no proper indication of notability provided, and the article's author is name Nemo3000, which indicates vanity. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 08:26, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Note: both articles were prodded. The author removed the tag on the first, so I AFD'd both in anticipation of the same thing occuring on the second page -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 08:28, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment hello, I am working on giving you verifiable info... I'm new on Wkikipedia... doing my best and need help.But it's hard to see everything deleted with a click of a mouse. Nemo3000 08:34, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment About Vanity, sorry about that. First, I was noticed on Joolz Denby page and then I have decieded to make my page... nothing about Vanity. If I need some I've created a web page no ? Nemo3000 08:37, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment, please see the policy on verifiability and guidelines on notability. They're fairly crucial in an encyclopedia project. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 08:40, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I was taking the time to do that this morning when I notice the page has been deleted. Doing my best to give the rights informations and the most verifiable info. Nemo3000 08:46, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I don't see how it is possible to make these articles pass WP:NN. Dionyseus 08:57, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Also the changing of the artist name from Jean-Manuel Moreau (easily verifiable on Google) to Nemo Sandman is not helping... Oh Gosh, I was even born in Diderot's city, the author of the Encyclopédie...I still don't understand how to show the verifiable infos... For example "Riding the rafale" is a film produced by Teuf Production. How can this info can be verified ? By a link ? Thank you to point me in the right direction. Nemo3000 09:00, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment WP:V is the big one for all of that. I've already linked to 'er. It has information on reputable sources and whatnot. Also, WP:CITE doesn't hurt. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 09:05, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I have add some source about the Video Clips on Nemo Sandman. Does it work that way ? Thank you. Nemo3000 09:41, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- [1]. Besides the shaky reliability of the database (again, WP:V), it does nothing for notability, or most of the other claims in the article. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 09:57, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete unless cleaned up with proper citations. Stifle (talk) 09:54, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok I have tried to back up all my entries... but is this the way it should appears ?87.89.67.93 12:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I'm starting to understand how to do it... Nemo3000 12:33, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I hope it suits the WP Verification Policy better ? Nemo3000 13:46, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Delete; fails WP:BIO, WP:VAIN. Editor's certainly got a lot of links now, but following Consumed Crustacean, many of them are shaky. The "cutlery reviews" are in fact on a Geocities website; the Columbus Award link just leads you to the award site, where there is no verification of the claim; the only photography claim with his name on it is likewise on a Geocities site ... and so on and so forth. When one weeds out Little Nemo in Slumberland and Neil Gaiman references, there are only seven Google hits under Nemo Sandman and 46 under Jean-Manuel Moreau, and most of those are Wikipedia and mirrors, forum or guestbook posts. Somewhat more damning, he has no more hits than that on the French Google [2]. RGTraynor 16:11, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nemo Sandman is an artist identity used since April 2006. All previous works are under JM Moreau. More hits occured also when the filters are removed.[3] Nemo3000 00:46, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment, 88 results is next to nothing. I myself get more (this screen name and others, and few of the results actually have to do with crustaceans). -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 03:30, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Link update for the Chris Colombus Award (search for Jean-Manuel Moreau) and here is a link forNemo reviews on Bladeforums since 1998
- Comment: Thanks for the Columbus link, which checks out ... but the festival citing over three hundred and fifty Honorable Mentions in 1996 alone doesn't bid well for notability on that basis. RGTraynor 17:15, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Was enough notable to be broadcasted twice on MTV (50 minutes) on may 1997... :-) I know it was almost ten years ago... screen capture here Nemo3000 17:38, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment, definately not a reliable source. It's just a blurry screencap of something on Geocities. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 03:30, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Eventually, it's perharps a good thing to remind you this simple fact: Nemo Sandman (Jean Manuel Moreau) was noticed on Joolz Denby article as film maker in her article since 22nd December 2005 !!!... Perharps you should have asked this editor to check Sandman's notability before to write in this article <<...(Joolz) works on screenplay project "Exilée" and "Secret Angles" with film maker Nemo Sandman...>> ? Nemo3000 00:33, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment that's not good enough for notability by extension, especially since we have no idea if that was ever released or if it was even notable. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 03:30, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And....when I'm old and wise. Heavy words that tossed and blew me, like Autumn winds that will blow right through me and someday in the mist of time when they ask you if you knew me Remember that you were a friend of mine !!!! As the final curtain falls before my eyes Oh when I'm Old and wise— Preceding unsigned comment added by Nemo3000 (talk • contribs)
- Comment, what the heck does any of that have to do with the nomination? -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 03:22, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Simple fact: Nemo Sandman (Jean Manuel Moreau) was noticed on Joolz Denby article as film maker in her article since 22nd December 2005 !!!.. Now you can erase him and have a dead link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nemo3000 (talk • contribs)

Comment: Look, we already know you're heavily invested in keeping this article alive (one of the reasons, come to that, cited in both WP:AUTO and WP:VAIN why you shouldn't write an article about yourself). But quite aside from that being mentioned in another article isn't in of itself proof of notability - I am, in two articles yet, and that doesn't make me notable - such links are found in Wikipedia all the time, and isn't a particular deterrent to the AfD process. RGTraynor 11:33, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the links RGTraynor. I deeply appreciate your true neutrality and real accuracy in your comment. It's an helping hand. Most of all it's helping me to get a better understanding on how WP is working. You can do whatever it's needed to be made with this article. As far as I am concern, the feud is over. Nemo3000 09:00, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.