Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Margaret Heffernan (Irish businesswomen)

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The result was keep - withdrawn by nominator, so happy to close even tho' I voted. (non-admin closure) Alexandermcnabb (talk) 15:14, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Margaret Heffernan (Irish businesswomen)

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The actual notability is her brother's--she became material for news coverage in connection with him, for taking over the family business after his wide range of unsavory activities (I can't say criminal, for he was apparently never convicted) DGG ( talk ) 10:09, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:48, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:48, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ireland-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:48, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Notability is established by the sources cited in the article, let alone by the considerable track record of sustained coverage unearthed by the Big G... Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:16, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Notability is well established. She was the CEO of one of the largest and most recognisably Irish retail businesses for 23 years, and that's before we talk about her awards for philanthropy. To say she is only talked about in relation to her errant brother feels disingenuous. Smirkybec (talk) 11:19, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - one of the most notable business figures in Ireland over several decades, first behind the scenes, then up-front; I’d say easily passes GNG. But the Dunnes kept a low profile, so perhaps the article requires some tuning but prima facie a solid case. Ben Dunne’s messy moments were trigger for higher visibility but a bit of a sideshow. SeoR (talk) 13:31, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Just saw that article only created yesterday, shocking that it was previously missing. With respect, I suggest the AfD is a bit premature then. (13:42, 20 June 2021)

Keep - As the article creator, I'm obviously biased. I think this AfD is premature, sure the article needs more work but rushing to AfD is not the answer. I strongly disagree that Margaret Heffernan is only notable through her brothers actions; this is both wrong and sexist. She was the CEO of one of the largest supermarket chains in Ireland for many years, and her actions on the discovery of her brothers shenanignas led in part to the setting of the McCracken Tribunal and the Moriarty Tribunal, very important events in recent Irish politics. Spleodrach (talk) 18:47, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:BASIC, including due to the sources in the article and Heffernan personifies the combative corporate culture of Dunnes (The Irish Times, 2015). Beccaynr (talk) 07:30, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I do not see the consistence of an argument that "- one of the most notable business figures in Ireland" and " Dunnes kept a low profile". DGG ( talk ) 09:46, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DGG, they are notable despite their best efforts at keeping a low profile. There is extensive coverage of the subject, but it is from journalists and others writing without encouragement. More references can be added to make the point clearer, but would you not agree that the article has already a good mix of references, and that the head of one of a country's 2-3 main retail chains, and a prominent female business leader from before that was common, is a valid topic? SeoR (talk) 10:03, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep A bunch of sources in the Irish Times alone. Also WP:HEY thanks to SeoR's expansion. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 10:41, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw OK, I'm withdrawingthis. DGG ( talk ) 14:37, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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