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Article is entirely unsourced and poorly written. The underlying purpose of the article seems to be to glorify the community rather than write an encyclopaedic article. The books detailed at the bottom of the article don't seem particularly reliable either and no page numbers are provided. Ixudi (talk) 18:53, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Pakistan and India. Ixudi (talk) 18:53, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Jammu and Kashmir-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:39, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I don't think deleting is right answer because this is a real people group. This book seems to indicate the mangral are a clan of the Dogra people. Here is some content on the people group. I'm not an expert on the people groups of Pakistan but this should either be stubified or redirected or merged under WP:ATD at the very least. Best.4meter4 (talk) 21:20, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I only saw this late at night. To help out, I only had time to add the above book reference given above by

4meter4. Hope other editors also chip in because it's a lengthy article that somehow ended up without any References....Ngrewal1 (talk) 02:34, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify: For now its not ready for main space. If people want to contribute than they can do so in Draft space. Wikibear47 (talk) 15:43, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Is there support for draftifying this article rather than simply deleting it?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:56, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No idea why outsiders having zero knowledge about the tribe and it's people are so worried about "references" when those are already mentioned, not to mention someone entionedua reference classifying us s Dogras (whofare also Rajputs) rom a book published in 2008 kek RajaAtiqMangral (talk) 00:22, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No idea why outsiders having zero knowledge about the tribe and it's people are so worried about "references" when those are already mentioned, not to mention someone gave a reference classifying us as Dogras (who are also Rajputs mind you) from a book published in 2008 kek* RajaAtiqMangral (talk) 00:23, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No comments on draftifying; anyone?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:03, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: This has been tagged since 2011 with no changes to the sourcing, delete it and be done with it. These articles with no sourcing don't help build trust in Wikipedia projects. Draftifying this when it's been tagged since 2011 won't help it. Oaktree b (talk) 01:53, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, I've seen articles tagged 2008, 2006, and earlier. I don't see how your point stands. Madeline1805 (talk) 14:29, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist, I see no consensus here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:12, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]