Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Libraries in fiction

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. There was also consensus to move to Libraries and librarians in fiction, will move the article to that title. (non-admin closure) Esquivalience ^t 01:49, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Libraries in fiction

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Contested prod-a list that would be impossible to ever get info for (just look at films and you would get a endless list that you would have to have by decade and it still be too large) Just a list you can't have on here. Wgolf (talk) 18:34, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OPPOSE DELETION. In my view, this proposal for deletion is arbitrary. In the first instance, IF the list ever gets too long, one can then cherry pick the most notable stories. Secondly, Wikipedia already carries a huge number of similar lists, where arguably the topic can (and sometimes does) lead to long lists. By way of example, I will mention just a handful of such lists:

Assassinations in fiction,

Fiction set in the Roman Empire,

Fiction based on World War I,

Fiction based on World War II,

List of fictional toxins,

List of science fiction films, and

List of fictional robots and androids.

If the above are acceptable in Wikipedia, pray explain to me why not also a page about libraries in fiction ?

Joe Gatt (talk) 18:51, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ ~~Undecided~~ Keep per Andrew D.'s finds. The only examples I can think of where the library plays a significant role is The Librarian series and the Star Trek episode "All Our Yesterdays". (No Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull? Yeah, I'm trying to forget that one too.) ~~Otherwise, it makes no more sense than Kitchens in fiction, Convention halls in fiction, etc.~~ Clarityfiend (talk) 18:55, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Clarityfiend. Notwithstanding that you are also keen on deleting this page, your reason for deletion appears to be diametrically opposed to the view of Wgolf, in the sense that you believe that such a list should be a very short one! However, there are many more examples of notable fictional stories where the library plays a very significant role, such as in the 2002 film The Time Machine, for example. Did you see that film by any chance? Joe Gatt (talk) 19:19, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No. The Time Machine (1960 film) was plenty good enough for me. In any case, since the synopsis for the 2002 film mentions the word "library" exactly once, I'm not seeing much support for your claim. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:30, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Got two more: The Day After Tomorrow and maybe The Breakfast Club. The thing is, no recognized authority has compiled a list. That's the main objection. Clarityfiend (talk) 19:39, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This would be a reasonable list if it were only works of fiction where a library played a central part, not just a scene took place there. Kitfoxxe (talk) 20:29, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment-yes that is true-I was just thinking when I saw the title though how this is used a bunch of times. And maybe if you indicate by film, novel or video games also. (I mean how many films have scenes where the secret chamber is behind books!) Of course there is Beauty and the Beast while we are at it. Wgolf (talk) 20:31, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I don't think that this list would be notable enough to warrant an article, though if the other lists mentioned above are notable enough, maybe I'm wrong. Tris1313 (talk) 21:50, 24 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. If we're talking about fiction, not just films, the first two titles that come to mind are The Library of Babel by Jorge Luis Borges and The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco. Our existing article about The Library of Babel includes an "Influence" section listing other works inspired by Borges. Note that we have Category:Fictional libraries and Category:Works set in libraries. --Arxiloxos (talk) 03:30, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. There could be a decent article here if it focused on fictional works where libraries played a central role, but what we have here is just a random list of works that have a library in. --Michig (talk) 06:27, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. In respect to those who are advocating for the deletion of this page, I still have not received any explanation of why this such a page should be deleted, when Wikipedia already carries a host of similar lists! Joe Gatt (talk) 22:18, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The nomination claims that it is impossible to get information about this. That's quite false - for example, see Librarians in Fiction; Libraries in Science Fiction; or Libraries in fiction quiz. Andrew D. (talk) 19:11, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – Passes WP:GNG and meets WP:LISTN. Source examples include: [1], [2], [3], [4] (scroll down), [5] (scroll down). NORTH AMERICA¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:41, 28 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. This page should either be renamed Libraries and librarians in fiction or have the librarian entries/criterion removed. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:54, 30 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Seems like an indiscriminate list to me. Neutrality^talk 01:17, 31 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Coffee // stole my cup // and beans // 01:15, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep A relatively small number of case is enough, though I would for convenience accept a renaming to Libraries and librarians in fiction, as it is often hard to separate the two. DGG ( talk ) 05:37, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – I support renaming the article to Libraries and librarians in fiction. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:11, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Rename – I likewise support renaming the article to Libraries and librarians in fiction. Joe Gatt (talk) 12:42, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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