Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jose Luis Gonzalez (artist)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Move to draft and seek approval. why on earth couldn't someone do the tidyup of moving this to draft without waiting for the full seven days? process wanking at its worst... Spartaz ^Humbug! 21:33, 16 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jose Luis Gonzalez (artist)

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No evidence of notabilty. Just one single ref for a BLP. Velella ^{Velella Talk} 07:53, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment At the very bottom, this article has the notice This is a misplaced articles for creation submission. If it is not yet ready for article space, please consider moving it to draft space rather than marking it for deletion. Note: If you are not an administrator please tag the redirect left behind after the move for deletion. Please consider this notice and move this article to draft space rather than deleting it.--DThomsen8 (talk) 22:03, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Move to Draft: namespace, however, it has never been anywhere near the WP:AFC process. The current version would not pass, but we stand a chance of knocking it into shape there. Fiddle Faddle 17:51, 9 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Move to Draft: namespace I agree with that approach.--DThomsen8 (talk) 23:56, 9 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy move to Draftspace: See tag at the bottom. --TL22 (talk) 22:08, 12 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep @Dthomsen8 @Timrent @FiddleFaddle @ToonLucas22 @Velella @TL22 This article has been totally reworked and now should be kept because of the interntional notability of the artice subject. For instance the article subject has:
Received a City of Los Angeles Certificate of Service, for his chairmanship of The Los Angeles City Bicentennial Committee from Mayor Tom Bradley on 28 September 1976.
He also received theBronze Medallion of Mexico City from Dr. Carlos Hank Gonzalez, Mayor of Mexico City, in 1981 for his contributions toward the Mexico City is Sister City of Los Angeles project.
In 1984 Peter Ueberroth, President of the Olympic Committee, along with Harry L. Usher and Paul Ziffren, presented him a Certificate and Bronze Medal for his contributions to the success of the 23rd Olympiad held in Los Angeles known also as the 1984 Summer Olympics.

There is a long list of off-line references. I will list the references here for your review, plus there are a couple of online ones as well.

La Opinion, Wednesday, September 22, 1971, Editorial Page/Pagina Editorial, Tribuna Del Publico by Luis B. Romero
Hoovers Guide to Galleries, East Los Angeles, page 116/117, 1971
La Opinion, Sunday, July 25, 1971, Explicando los Motivos Foto de Pancho Hollywood para La Opinion
Eastside Journal, Thursday, December 16, 1971, Mural Depicts History of Mexican Americans (Search for Identity)
The American Baptist Magazine, February, 1972, Art Center for East Los Angeles, showing nail relief to Davi
Belvedere Citizen, Thursday, December 20, 1973, First Street Store to Remodel Front of Building. Bibliography: Jose Luis Ruiz (author), Action Chicano, TV Film Spec. 1974
Eastside Sun, Thursday, October 3, 1974, Salesian High “Mustang Mural” Creation of alums Juan Gonzalez and Robert Arenivar
Times Photo by Bruce Cox, Ceremony Dancers Perform in front of Salesian Mural during Dedication
Los Angeles Times, Thursday, December 26, 1974, Chicano Art Blooms in Barrio Warehouse by Joe R. Nevarez, Staff Writer, Los Angeles Times
Dewar’s Profile, numerous national magazines and newspapers 1975
La Opinion, Tuesday, January 21, 1975, Instantaneas by Octavio R. Costa
Belvedere Citizen, Thursday, March 6, 1975, Sassoon Hair Style Debuts in East Los Angeles
Mexican American Sun, Thursday, March 13, 1975, New Styles Introduced in East Los Angeles
Ralph P. Davidson (author), The Mural Message, Time Magazine 4/7/75
Mexican American Sun, Thursday, April 17, 1975, Sassoon to Award Scholarships
The Daily News, May 13, 1975, Chicano Muralist Will Speak at Whittier Library Friday
Eastside Journal and Belvedere Citizen, Thursday, May 15, 1975, Hispanic Women’s Council “Fashion Frolic Sunday”
Los Angeles Times, Sunday, June 29, 1975, Matter of Heritage Photo by Marilynn K. Yee
Los Angeles Herald-Examiner, Saturday, July 19, 1975, USC Gets 50 Foot Wall Art
News Pilot San Pedro, California, Wednesday, August 20, 1975, Staff Photos Restoration of San Pedro Post Office, Mural by Fletcher Martin
Eastside Journal and Belvedere Citizen, Thursday, January 1, 1976, The History of Goez, TELACU award honors Goez Art Gallery by Lorraine Panicacci
Fenix en Los Angeles, article and photographs by Frank Schreider
The Washington Post, Style People/Entertainment/Leisure, Saturday, July 5, 1975, The Other California by Pam Lambert
Los Angeles East Magazine, September 11, 1975, Murals Set The Tone Of Life For Estrada Courts Residents
Los Angeles Times Home Magazine, April 11, 1976, Murals at Estrada Courts
The Mural Message Environment, May 5, 1976
The Murals of East Los Angeles by George Beronius, abridged from Home Magazine, Photo by Susan Giuliano
La Luz, September–October, 1975, A profile of an Hispanic Artist, Charlie “Clavos” Felix by Louis R. Torres, Photos by Frank Kawan
The Tidings Los Angeles, November 19, 1976, “The Short Life of Alfonso Fulano”, executed at the then Brooklyn Avenue Neighborhood Center at the corner of Cesar Chavez and Arizona, 4716 Cesar Chavez Avenue, Los Angeles, CA
The Herald Examiner, Cinco de Mayo, Putting the French on the Run by Ava Gutierrez-O’Neill, Staff Writer, April 28, 1974
Eastside Journal and Belvedere Citizen, Wednesday, March 17, 1976
Rosemead; South San Gabriel, California; Alhambra, California; Monterey Park, California; East Los Angeles Tribune; Commerce Tribune, Thursday, November 6, 1975, TO HMAS donates mural to school district, which was executed at Mark Keppel High School, 501 E Hellman Ave, Alhambra, CA 91801
La Opinion, Monday, December 13, 1976, Instantaneas by Octavio R. Costa, El Mundo Pictorico de Carlos Bueno
East Los Angeles Tribune, 1977, Photo by Steve Castro
El Sereno Star, September 6, 1978, Los Angeles Mural Exhibit Opens at Gallery, The Walls of East Los Angeles
Los Angeles Times, Thursday, September 7, 1978, Family Guide to Weekend Events, “Walls of East Los Angeles”
Monterey Park Comet and Montebello Comet, Thursday, August 9, 1979, Art for Health
East Los Angeles Gazette, Montebello, CA, Saturday, September 24, 1977, Murals, Goez Murals Respected Nationwide
“Tiempo” Mural with spray gun on Hammel & Gage, East Los Angeles
Calendar Art, Photography “The State of the Art” by William Wilson, Sunday, January 28, 1979, Espejo: Reflections of the Mexican American
The Montebello News, Saturday, May 1, 1976, at County Mall, Goez Featured in Weekend Show
The Christian Science Monitor, Friday, July 6, 1979, by Mark Sevens, Art Flows from Chicano Barrios
Montebello News, East Los Angeles Gazette, Pico Rivera News, August 1979, Goez Art Studios and Gallery KO’s Doubters by John Haeckl
Career World, December 1975, The Opening Door, Photo by Connie Parva, Times are Changing, New Career Doors are Opening
Goez: A New Face, A New Place by Pete Moraga, Jr.
It’s Gone From A Meat Packing House to a Museum by Earl Weaver, 1984
Camino, October 1981, Business, Art is Business, El Arte Como Negocio, An Interview with Joe L. Gonzalez by Katherine A. Diaz
Joe Gonzalez: The Man Behind Goez Art Gallery by Gloria Gonzalez 1979
Belvedere Citizen, Wednesday, April 2, 1980, Visit Art Gallery, Photo by Charles Calderon, Governor Bruce Bobbit of Arizona visits Goez with David Lizarraga
Art Work on Display, Tribune Mural Required Hard Work and Patience 1977
Papers from Oxnard and Ventura published story on 1981 Seven Up Impulsa an Artistas Mexicanos fotos y texto: Miguel Marquez
East Los Angeles Comet, Thursday, December 11, 1980, A Holiday Surprise from 7Up
Neighborhood News, Wednesday, December 17, 1980, Orange County, California: A Holiday Surprise from Seven Up
Misc: Brooklyn Avenue Neighborhood Center murals (talks about “La Vida Breve de Alfonso Fulano”
Misc: Talks about Portrait of Artist, Frank Martinez (Photo Exhibit)
Misc: Talks about Photo Exhibit now at Goez Gallery Images of Mexican American culture
Misc: Cinco de Mayo Celebrations
Misc: Goez Art Gallery brings “Chicano Art” to Olvera Street
Misc: Gallery displays “Walls of ELA” a photographic collection of 39 Community Murals
Misc: Photo on display, This picture of Bert Corona, ELA Activist
Misc: Art Galeria Goez by Rosemary Quesada Weiner, about new Gallery on Olvera Street
Misc: Description of “The Goez Mayan Birth Glyph Developed at Goez Art Studio”
TELACU Today, The East Los Angeles Community Union, January 1979, Goez Designed front page cover Christmas design
Caminos, October 1980 by Kathy L. Bixler-Valdez, 10 Hints in Buying Chicano and Mexican Art
Map of Southern California for Atlantic Richfield Company Depicts Goez and El Mercado
Press Release from Ray Gonzalez of Minority Department – KTLA about Joe and John on “Pacesetters” program Sunday, November 10, 1974
Press Release for Art Exhibit in Century City
Vida en el Valle, Fresno, CA, Wednesday, August 29, 1990, Artista Viene a Fresno / A $175,000 Salute Planned by Juan Loera
Vida en el Valle, Fresno, CA, Wednesday, December 5, 1990, “Muralista Presenta Sus Obras en Fresno / Muralist to Present Model of Monument”

I can sort of understand the nominators thinking at first, but this hardly a person with "No evidence of notabilty." I myself took the time to read the entire article in its rather "raw" state. All the references were in the article at the initial state. The article just was not formatted correctly. I tried to start formatting it correctly from the start. It really makes me wonder if the nominator followed WP:BEFORE, since the article clearly stated from the beginning the points that give the article's subject notability:

Received a City of Los Angeles Certificate of Service, for his chairmanship of The Los Angeles City Bicentennial Committee from Mayor Tom Bradley on 28 September 1976.

He also received theBronze Medallion of Mexico City from Dr. Carlos Hank Gonzalez, Mayor of Mexico City, in 1981 for his contributions toward the Mexico City is Sister City of Los Angeles project.
In 1984 Peter Ueberroth, President of the Olympic Committee, along with Harry L. Usher and Paul Ziffren, presented him a Certificate and Bronze Medal for his contributions to the success of the 23rd Olympiad held in Los Angeles known also as the 1984 Summer Olympics.

In my view the nomination should be withdrawn at this point. Cheers! WordSeventeen (talk) 05:28, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Nowhere have I suggested deletion. The edits to the article add useful material to it. It now needs a tranche of work to knock it into shape. Your work has assuredly rescued it from deletion in my eyes, but that is not what my !vote here is towards. My view is that this is better performed as a draft rather than a main namespace article, the more so since WP:AFD is not really intended to clean an article up. There is a likelihood that his discussion will close with a migration to Draft: namespace. If I am correct then you should submit it for review while tightening the article and its referencing. This will be the best of all possible outcomes with the present state of the article, because there will be peace and quiet to work, without the urgency of defending agains a deletion discussion. Fiddle Faddle 05:46, 14 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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