Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Italy–Malta relations

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. WP:SNOW MBisanz ^talk 22:17, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Italy–Malta relations

This article consists of a dictionary definition of the topic, and a list of embassy and consulate locations, easily copiable into Foreign relations of Italy and Foreign relations of Malta which would benefit from it. It fails WP:N because it has no secondary sources providing an overarching view of these relations over time, and their significance, in a way demonstrated by articles such as Japan – United States relations. No references, no context, and indeed, very little content. Full disclosure: This article was nominated for deletion once before under the title Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Italian-Maltese relations. The debate was closed quickly due to the nominator being uncertain of deleting it. BlueSquadronRaven 14:52, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Admittedly, this may not be the greatest article in its current state. However, unlike many of the other Country1-Country2 relations articles that have come up for AfD recently, there are some actual associations between Italy and Malta. Both countries are members of the European Union. Historically, Malta was ruled at various times by the Roman Empire and by the Kingdom of Sicily. Malta is geographically closer to Italy than it is to any other country. Italian radio and television broadcasts are received in Malta, and two-thirds of the Maltese population speaks Italian. Italian was the official language of Malta until the 1930s. Hence, I suspect that a worthwhile article could be written about this topic, and the current content should be kept as a start. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:09, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Metropolitan90. Note that the nomination is incompatible with the GFDL, so I recommend speedy close. Hilary T (talk) 15:23, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The article is in a bad way, and needs some major cleanup, but that's not a valid reason to delete. Per Metropolitan90, the relations are there, its just that there are no sources for it at the moment. The article is definitely salvageable. Firestorm ^Talk 17:29, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Given that Malta is about 60 miles away from Sicily, I frankly can't see how they could avoid having relations. Mandsford (talk) 17:30, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Italy and Malta are not two unrelated countries from opposite ends of the world, but neighbors. There's a very long history, as Malta has been under the control of a wide variety of other nations from ancient times until 1964. There's potential for considerable growth of this article. DGG (talk) 17:57, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It seems like if there are a few countries with whom Malta has especially notable relations, this should just be covered in the Malta article. No need for separate coverage given the low level of notability demonstrated by this article. Locke9k (talk) 19:31, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - needs a lot of work, but this relationship is inherently notable, unlikely most random pairings of countries, like Greek-Zimbabwean relations. . . Rcawsey (talk) 19:36, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Metropolitan90 said everything there is to say. If no one expands it, we can revisit the idea to delete in a couple of months. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:05, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- What would have changed? Hilary T (talk) 08:56, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I am in agreement with Metropolitan90. The article would benefit from further enhancing and expanding. Not all of these foreign relations articles are deletion-worthy. Pastor Theo (talk) 01:22, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Seeing as Italy is Malta's nearest neighbour, I can't imagine how they can't avoid having relations. Also, there's a wealth of historical associations - it was part of the Roman Empire and Kingdom of Sicily, Italian broadcasts can be received there, and Italian was the official language until the 1930s. They are also both members of the European Union as well. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess)|(talk to me)|(What I've done) 08:59, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Plus Germany & Italy both tried to bomb the **** outta the island back in WWII. That has to be a vivid memory for at least one party. :) -- llywrch (talk) 19:37, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep -- This stub has the potential for expansion based on the historical and geographical significance of the relation between the two countries. --J.Mundo (talk) 17:02, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The article sucks and was created in bad faith by a disruptive editor who didn't bother seeking to demonstrate notability, but it's hard to believe that the relationship between Malta and its largest neighbor wouldn't be notable. Nick-D (talk) 05:12, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. For all the reasons stated above, the use of the deletion tag here is utterly ridiculous, and should be removed ASAP. It needs work, not deletion. Indisciplined (talk) 18:28, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep In fact, I'd close this as a snowball keep, except I feel it's only fair to give Biruitorul a chance to contribute, since he has been so active in this area. -- llywrch (talk) 19:37, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep this is one of the more notable relations, despite what the nominator thinks. Tavix | Talk 19:41, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I see listed some interesting and easily verified historical facts. The article should be kept. Dream Focus 22:45, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.