Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Graham Dugoni (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. Nominator has withdrawn. No keep votes outstanding. (non-admin closure) Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:57, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graham Dugoni

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Article about semi-pro footballer that was deleted at AfD in February 2011, but recreated after he made a single appearance in the fully-pro USL Pro during April 2011. More recently, he has created a product Yondr that appears to be notable in itself, but his footballing career is not notable (the only mentions are trivial, such as transfer announcements and database entries). There is an in-depth story about him from the Washington Post but it barely mentions his football career (just a sentence about playing college soccer). I'm inclined to redirect this BLP to the Yondr article, but otherwise it appears to fail WP:NFOOTBALL and WP:GNG. Jogurney (talk) 17:30, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:31, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:31, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Oregon-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:31, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:33, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - there is longstanding consensus that scraping by on NFOOTBALL with one or two appearances is insufficient when GNG is failed so comprehensively, as is the case here. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:36, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - probably enough coverage about non-soccer career to meet GNG. Giant Snowman 13:11, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I've seen "not played in any pro tournament" thrown around as a reason for deletion before so I'm surprised to see this nominated for deletion. Passes WP:NFOOTBALL and also notable as a company founder, combine these and I feel the article should be kept. NemesisAT (talk) 19:06, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@NemesisAT: it's literally what WP:NFOOTBALL says and is used on nearly every football AFD, so you clearly haven't seen many. FWIW there's a heap of AFD consensus confirming that scraping NFOOTBALL but failing GNG does not confer notability, see this (which also details others) and this and this, amongst many, many others. Giant Snowman 21:11, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@GiantSnowman: ,@Jogurney: The subject passes WP:GNG as the founder of Yondr even if he fails WP:GNG as a football player notability is to be meet only one count the subject clearly does so as a company founder in clearly WP:RS below
Washington Post,
New York Times,
Tampa Bay Times ,
The Wall Street Journal ,
ABC7News amongst others Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 23:15, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes NFOOTY, and separately GNG through his company and career.--Ortizesp (talk) 20:27, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes WP:FOOTY and also passes WP:GNG as a company founder of Yondr,I have added references including Washington Post ,The New York Times ,Tampa Bay Times amongst other note he passes WP:GNG as a company founder if not a Football player .Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:43, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes NFOOTY - though it would a bit of a tenuous keep based on his Football career ... but easily meets GNG with significant coverage in very major papers. Nfitz (talk) 02:19, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Withdraw - most of the coverage mentioned above (except the WashPost article I linked) is not SIGCOV of Dugoni (he's mentioned as the founder of the company, but that's it). That said, people seem to think 3 sources constituting SIGCOV are available somewhere. We should make sure the article doesn't place undue emphasis on his clearly non-notable football/soccer career though. Jogurney (talk) 13:59, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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