Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Do you do poison?
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Bruiser (TV series). Anything sourced that is worth merging is available from the article history. Randykitty (talk) 18:11, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
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There are no secondary sources in the article, nor can I find any. Though I'm a huge fan of this recurring sketch, Bruiser is a little-known sketch show even among fans of the genre and this sketch is no different. 2 million views on YouTube (not a huge amount anyway) is not how we measure notability, unfortunately, and in particular I've had to remove the link as it's a copyright violation and Wikipedia cannot include links to copyvios.
To be notable, the sketch would have to have been discussed in reliable secondary sources (e.g. newspaper reviews). The article doesn't present any (reddit is not reliable; YouTubers are not professional reviewers; the BBC link is a primary source) and I cannot find any. — Bilorv (he/him) (talk) 13:30, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. — Bilorv (he/him) (talk) 13:31, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. — Bilorv (he/him) (talk) 13:31, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
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- Either redirect to Bruiser (TV series) as it could be a viable search term or just delete altogether. I agree with the nominator that it fails WP:GNG due to lack of coverage from reliable, secondary sources. Aoba47 (talk) 16:44, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Why would you delete it? There is so much useless content on Wikipedia anyway which is less important than this? That article took me three hours to make, and I'd get really annoyed if it got deleted. That's the porblem with Wikipedia. It's supposed to be a community thing but whenever people try to make articles to help they just get deleted. I'm a teenager, unlike most typical Wikipedia editors (white christian men from America/Canada, 35+), and I don't know why I would have an account unless I wanted to represent my grossly underrepresented age demographic. Anyway, why would you want to delete it? It's not like you need to. It's not like Wikipedia is running out of space! Leavepuckgackle1998 P.S even if you did delete it someone would recreate it (talk) 00:31, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Leavepuckgackle1998! I understand your frustration, but Wikipedia has notability policies because we are an encyclopedia, not a collection of all information. I appreciate that you want to help but there are better ways in which you can do this. To take one, Bruiser (TV series) has just a one-sentence Reception section—can you find any newspaper reviews of the show and add a couple of quotes from them into the Reception section, adding the newspaper review URL as a reference? Alternatively, if you want to create an article and you're a Mitchell and Webb fan then I notice that Robert Webb's autobiography How Not to Be a Boy doesn't have an article yet. If you can find two newspaper reviews of the book (hint: you can) then the subject meets #1 of our notability criteria for books and thus we can have an article on it. I empathise that Wikipedia is very difficult to navigate and understand at first and there is a big learning curve but you can leave me a message at my talk page or ask a volunteer at the Teahouse for any questions you have. Thanks! — Bilorv (he/him) (talk) 01:30, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- I would recommend reading the general notability guideline to better understand what makes an article have enough notability for a separate page. It mostly boils down to the question of whether or not a topic has received significant coverage from reliable, third-party sources. If you would like to defend the notability for this particular article, then feel free to either post sources here and incorporate them into the article. Wikipedia is a community and I hope you continue to edit on here in the future. And by the way, I may be an American male, but I am under the age of 35 and not a religious person at all so that stereotype is not entirely true lol. Aoba47 (talk) 01:35, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete. Non-notable sketch from a fairly non-notable TV show. Yes, many of the people in it went on to be notable, but it garnered little interest at the time and has not really done so since. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:15, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
- Redirect to Bruiser (TV series), where it is mentioned, as a viable WP:ATD-R. I understand you may have put a lot of work into it, Leavepuckgackle1998, but it does not meet the criteria for inclusion on Wikipedia. Coverage in independent reliable sources is important to maintain the standards that we have. Even if this page is deleted, it will not be lost, and you can request a copy be emailed to you at WP:REFUND and it can be reused elsewhere. Alpha3031 (t • c) 06:23, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
Please reconsider this. There is no (or very little) actual need to delete this article. I respect your opinions, but I think there's just as much reason as there is on both sides to keep it. It is not like Wikipedia is running out of space. Delete some articles about episodes of the office, or MWWS murders or modern family or Inside No.9 if you really have to, I don't know, but please, keep this up here, or if you don't think it's not up to scratch, help improve it like the experienced editors you are. Leavepuckgackle1998 (talk) 11:06, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
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