Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DeValois Stadium
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge to Northwestern College (Iowa). (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 19:47, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
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Generic campus athletic field does not show notability with substantive independent sources. Virtually every high school, junior high school, college, and in this case university with <2,000 students playing in NAIA has a field where they play football. Automatic notability for stadiums does not exist, as implied by deprodder. Reywas92Talk 01:57, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:45, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iowa-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:14, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
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- Multiple issues here: (1) Nominator is posting statements that are not true and this seems to be getting worse through several AFDs. I was the editor that de-prodded the article and stated Plenty of sources available online, just have to click the "google" link provided by Wikipedia. I'll add them over time. Generally colelge football stadiums are considered notable, see discussion at WP:CFBSTADIUM -- while I regret mis-spelling the word "college" it's clear I did not state nor imply any automatic notabily, only that discussion about why college stadiums are normally kept are listed for review. Feel free to validate the comments at Talk:DeValois Stadium and revision history of the article itself. (2) The comments about junior high schools and high schools do not apply and are a WP:STRAWMAN (that's not notable, therefore this one's not notable) (3) The comment about the school being an NAIA school is not a reason to delete. (4) The comment about the school being small violates WP:NOTBIGENOUGH. (5) The only argument that actually applies to AFD is the independent sources, and some quick research produced a large amount--I added a couple to show that the subject passes WP:GNG which fixes that issue. Therefore, the article is a clear keep as the standard has been met. It's my hope that the other comments are sipmly misunderstandings.--Paul McDonald (talk) 15:14, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- One source says "The Red Raiders came into the contest ranked fifth nationally in passing offense, but struggled to find a rhythm at De Valois Stadium." and the other says "the Red Raider Athletic Band will host the first annual Red Raider Marching Clinic and Preview Show on Saturday, Sept. 11, at Korver Field in De Valois Stadium." The third is some random coach's blog, not a reliable source. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of GNG if you think this establishes notability. Reywas92Talk 16:00, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to Northwestern College (Iowa), per WP:ATD. There is entirely insufficient content to justify a standalone article. Also fails WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage – all I'm seeing are standard passing mentions that you would expect for any WP:MILL sports facility. wjematherplease leave a message... 13:50, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 08:07, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 09:39, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
- Merge to Northewestern College (Iowa) as it's not indepedendently notable. I did some digging beyond the sources above, and am not able to identify SIGNIFICANT, independent sourcing. Name / score drops are nowhere near enough. Star Mississippi 03:53, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to Northwestern College (Iowa) per wjemather. This is the football stadium for an NAIA program (i.e, the lowest level of college football other than junior colleges). There is no presumption of notability (see Wikipedia talk:Notability#Sports venues) and thus DeValois Stadium would need to satisfy WP:GNG. Two of the sources cited in the article currently do rise to the level of WP:SIGCOV. The coaches' blog is published by the NAIA and thus is not independent. My searches also failed to turn up SIGCOV in reliable, independent sources. Cbl62 (talk) 15:56, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
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