Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Dulin

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 01:36, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Dulin

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Non-notable offensive lineman who never played in an NFL game and only played professionally for minor league World Football League (which is not listed as a qualified league under WP:NGRIDIRON). Cannot find much in terms of other sources to pass WP:GNG, but I would add that my Newspapers.com account has stopped allowing me to view full pages for some reason. Being an NFL draft pick does not make a subject notable. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:22, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:22, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Not notable Omniscientmoose42 (talk) 21:29, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I'm not seeing any notability measure here to consider passed. There's apparently other people by that name, so online searches reveal a lot of noise and it's difficult to pick out, so I have to go with the article as written--and the only sources are transactional-type data that we typically ignore for the purposes of determining notability.--Paul McDonald (talk) 03:02, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, a player with no achievements and not even a proper competition on a pro level of his sport has to be remarkable and remembered in order to have an article. A couple of interviews would not be enough either. Geschichte (talk) 05:23, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:NGRIDIRON. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:24, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I'm surprised that the WFL is not part of WP:NGRIDIRON, but it isn't, so there's no basis for presumed notability. Nor does he qualify under WP:NCOLLATH having played at a small college program without achieving any particular notoriety. Finally, offensive linemen rarely garner much the way of in depth coverage, and such coverage has not been brought forth here, so WP:GNG is not satisfied. Cbl62 (talk) 20:20, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I was kind of surprised at that too... maybe an enthusiastic editor can try another wiki like an online sports almanac. It's nice to know that there actually were players in the WFL and stuff... but WP:OHWELL.--Paul McDonald (talk) 17:13, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:NGRIDIRON, WP:NCOLLATH, and WP:GNG, per all above. Ejgreen77 (talk) 07:32, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, Did no t play in NFL, does not meet notability. Alex-h (talk) 10:05, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, Dulin played in the World Football League, which is considered a major American Football league, bigger than the All-America Football Conference, so he does meet notability requirements.Tecmo (talk) 22:29, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Tecmo: The WFL is not considered a major enough American football league to presume notability, according to WP:NGRIDIRON. If you would like to propose an amendment to NGRIDIRON to include the WFL, you may do so at Wikipedia talk:Notability (sports). Eagles 24/7 (C) 22:47, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Eagles247: in the WP:NGRIDIRON article you mentioned, the WFL is included in the following text:"or any other top-level professional league". That text should be removed immediately if the only football leagues that apply are the NFL, CFL, AFL, USFL and AAFC. That text is there to include leagues like the World Football League.Tecmo (talk) 17:04, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Has there been any record or in-depth discussion about the WFL in reference to WP:NGRIDIRON?--Paul McDonald (talk) 22:50, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ongoing now. See Wikipedia talk:Notability (sports)#World Football League. Cbl62 (talk) 02:47, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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