Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bert Vlaardingerbroek

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The result was no consensus‎. Star Mississippi 14:17, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bert Vlaardingerbroek

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This unsourced article has been tagged as such since 2020 and features a darts player who, according to the article itself, "never featured in the final stages of a major event". WP:BEFORE yielded a Dutch article in which he is described as an amateur ("There is no room for Bert Vlaardingerbroek is written in every darts book." Google did struggle with this one) and a piece on Forgotten Darters. It's not enough for WP:GNG and having reached the last 32 of the Winmau World Masters as the pinnacle of his career, he is not notable per WP:NSPORT. However, I did learn that there is a condition called 'Dartitis', similar to Dystonia and for that I am grateful. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 05:09, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Sportspeople, Netherlands, and United Kingdom. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 05:09, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. The Dutch version of the article, which is more extensive than this one, cites Pionier met darteritis as a source for its content, unfortunately now a redlink. This interview from rtlnieuws, is a respectable source that shows interest: "Bert Vlaardingerbroek's name is written in every darts book." This book calls Bert Vlaardingerbroek the best darts player in the Netherlands.. Subject seems to be marginally notable. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:12, 28 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The book is about Raymond van Barneveld, arguably the best darts player of the Netherlands though someone thought it was "puffery" to call him that (he won five world championships, a similar total as Eric Bristow who is regarded as the best darter of all time!) when I described him as such when writing Darts in the Netherlands (which was an "interesting" experience as folks were placeing those ugly unhideable tags when I wasn't even done with the article). Vlaardingerbroek was the first Dutch darter to reach an international tournament, maybe that makes him somewhat notable. Someone Not Awful (talk) 04:57, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly would but only if sources existed testifying to that effect. -The Gnome (talk) 14:14, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:24, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Maliner (talk) 14:25, 10 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ❯❯❯ Raydann ^(Talk) 04:30, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment How does a page created in 2008 suddenly become non-notable?

MaskedSinger (talk) 11:35, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe it was never notable? It's certainly undersourced... Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 13:56, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete since subject's notability is evidently unsupported by sources. -The Gnome (talk) 14:14, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.