Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle of Salyan (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 07:03, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Salyan

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The article is built on sources that fail WP:RELIABILITY, WP:VERIFY, and WP:DUE.

The Yengin source is just a diary from over a century ago, not reliable per WP:PRIMARY.

Güzel, Oğuz, and Karatay are genocide deniers. Page 483: "This is an important proof, demonstrating that Armenians were not subjected to genocide before and after the deportation."

Güçlü is very apologetic to genocide denial and portrays it as a legitimate view, such as (Page 179) writing genocide deniers like Heath W. Lowry and Justin McCarthy "both dispute that the evidence supports a verdict of genocide" as opposed to "other historians...take a very different view". Also on Page 44: "Yet unlike the denial of the Holocaust that nourishes anti-Semitism, denial of the Armenian genocide is not part of a racist anti-Armenian ideology".

The Altayli website is not a credible or established source, and includes articles denying genocide.

I also found very little information about these writers, and suspect they would not pass Wikipedia:Notability (academics). - Kevo³²⁷ (talk) 07:17, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Military, Azerbaijan, and Turkey. Shellwood (talk) 10:22, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - per the above arguments. Once again, could not find anything on google books stating that this battle happened. Sources cited are undoubtedly biased and not reliable. محرر البوق (talk) 03:53, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per norm. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:03, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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