Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barbara Garcia

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 11:38, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Barbara Garcia

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Looks like WP:ONEEVENT to me. Ymblanter (talk) 06:41, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 07:18, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Oklahoma-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 07:18, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

*Delete - Just WP:ONEEVENT and nothing more. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 07:20, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to 2013 Moore tornado - WP:ONEEVENT is not, primarily, a delete rationale. Instead the whole point of WP:ONEEVENT is that you should instead either rename the article to the event or merge it into an appropriate target article about the event because the article is basically about the event, not the person. In this case the clear target for merging is 2013 Moore tornado which covers the tornado that destroyed Garcia's house. Not all the content should be merged as some of it obviously isn't encyclopedic, but the basic story of Garcia does appear to have received significant coverage in reliable sources (CBS, The Oklahoman). FOARP (talk) 22:15, 4 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

*Comment - no point to merge. Thousands of houses destroy in tornadoes incident just like soldiers dies in war. No every soldier has an article in Wikipedia so it the destroyed house in a tornado. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 00:42, 5 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

But we still have articles about servicemen who died in wars who were notable (sure, WP:WAX). The grounds used here are WP:ONEEVENT, not failure to reach WP:GNG which was not alleged. At any rate, even if WP:BASIC isn't met that doesn't matter if we're merging since the requirement for including something in an article is not that it should be worthy of a stand-alone article.

PS - this nom is a case-study of the problems with using WP:ONEEVENT as a delete rationale. It just was never intended to be used this way. It was always concerned primarily with the article title. FOARP (talk) 09:13, 5 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

*Comment To compare fallen soldiers who protect and service their countries, who have articles in Wikipedia, and to add a content of a public individual whose house got destroyed from natural event is far from reasonable nor right to justify your "merge" debate. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 09:24, 5 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You invoked the comparison. I was merely pointing out that, yes, we do have articles about “soldiers [killed] in war” as well as about the wars in which they died. FOARP (talk) 16:31, 5 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

*CommentThose fallen soldiers do have articles / content added in Wikipedia pass the notability do have "historical impact" in wars / countries relations and WP:NOTTEMPORARY as of houses destroyed or cars damaged by storms. That is what I meant by "far from reasonable nor right to justify your merge debate". CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 01:23, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

But again, no-one is arguing that this article necessarily has stand-alone notability. It doesn't need to have stand-alone notability to be merged into another article. And if you meant WP:NOTTEMPORARY (PS - I think you mean WP:SUSTAINED), well, I do note that the news media were still reporting on her story even six months after the tornado (1 2 3) and that she was discussed in a book published in 2014 and 2015. TL;DR - she was the subject of multiple years of WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS. FOARP (talk) 05:55, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

*Comment Just a many boxer, mma fighter, basketball players suffered injuries such as broken their obiter in 8 pieces, broken limps, tender completely tearing off from their bones and those individuals do have a page in Wikipedia and the info is well sources and do continued talk about in media due to such injury prevent them from their next title defenses or final playoff, it does not mean it it is included in the page content, let a alone a non notable individual lost their home in a storm/tornado which it happens thousand of time for the last decade just in US alone which play little significant as whole in the article. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 08:11, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Quality is too poor to merge (no citations). The tornado article claims $2 billion worth of damage and 24 fatalities. Why would this survivor be worth mentioning above all the rest? Blumpf (talk) 04:20, 11 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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