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Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (February 28)
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Hello, Rajeevstkt!
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- Dear Teahouse crew,
- My current article has been declined by citing it has only primary sources, which is untrue. The article has many external sources and news stories were cited. The reviewer suggests that the page can be merged with another page - Human Rights in South Sudan. This is not acceptable as the page I created is for a UN independent inquiry commission. The pages cannot be merged. I am not sure how you guys can help me in this, but your advise would be very much appreciated.
- Rajeev Rajeevstkt (talk) 17:31, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Rajeevstkt a third-party source does not mean it is secondary and news reports are often primary because all they are doing is regurgitating what the a subject says. In this case, they was were restating the UN report. What I suggest is adding a section to Human rights in South Sudan that covers the Commission and their findings. S0091 (talk) 17:38, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Many thanks for the reply. But the vital point is - the UN Commission page cannot be simply added as a section in the page you mentioned. It is an independent authority and an investigative body. It needs to be standing as a separate page. However, mentioning the said page in the article can be done. Anyways, I hear you on the primary/news sources. See, the primary source in this case would be the commission's reports (which I cited); all the news reports of the commissions findings are to be considered as a secondary, right? That was my impression. What in this case would be an accepted third party source? But, I would highly appreciate if you could suggest a way to resolve this issue. I have been waiting for over 5 months for the review. Kindly share your advice and I will try amending it.
- (Also one query - if I amend this, will it go down the bottom of the current waiting list for the final review?) Rajeevstkt (talk) 17:46, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @S0091
- Many thanks for the reply. But the vital point is - the UN Commission page cannot be simply added as a section in the page you mentioned. It is an independent authority and an investigative body. It needs to be standing as a separate page. However, mentioning the said page in the article can be done.
- Similar UN machanisms like the Commission has page in wikipedia with the same line of sources. Check out pls - Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Ukraine
- Anyways, I hear you on the primary/news sources. See, the primary source in this case would be the commission's reports (which I cited); all the news reports of the commissions findings are to be considered as a secondary, right? That was my impression. What in this case would be an accepted third party source? But, I would highly appreciate if you could suggest a way to resolve this issue. I have been waiting for over 5 months for the review. Kindly share your advice and I will try amending it.
- (Also one query - if I amend this, will it go down the bottom of the current waiting list for the final review?)
- Rajeevstkt (talk) 17:59, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- As for other articles, see WP:OTHERSTUFF. We do not determine notability or if a topic should be a stand-alone article by comparing it to existing articles as those may have their own issues (see also WP:NOPAGE) and it being an independent authority is not meaningful. As far as news reports, they are only secondary if they contain the authors own independent analysis, evaluation, etc (see Secondary). If all they are doing is relying on what the Commission says or wrote, then they are primary. For example interviews are primary sources regardless of who conducted/published it. What I suggest is to go ahead and add it to the existing article as that will get into the encyclopedia now then continue to work on the draft. You might be able find additional sources on Google Scholar but be careful; not everything there is reliable. As far as resubmitting the draft and when it will be reviewed, it is more like a pool rather than queue as there is no order as what gets reviewed when. Reviewers grab what they want so it could take a day or months. I am currently working on some of the oldest. S0091 (talk) 18:18, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Rajeevstkt a third-party source does not mean it is secondary and news reports are often primary because all they are doing is regurgitating what the a subject says. In this case, they was were restating the UN report. What I suggest is adding a section to Human rights in South Sudan that covers the Commission and their findings. S0091 (talk) 17:38, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of User:Rajeevstkt/sandbox
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A tag has been placed on User:Rajeevstkt/sandbox requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://www.ohchr.org/en/hr-bodies/hrc/co-h-south-sudan/index#:~:text=The%20Commission's%20mandate%20is%20to,view%20to%20ending%20impunity%20and. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Commission on Human Rights in South Sudan (February 29)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Commission on Human Rights in South Sudan (June 25)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Commission on Human Rights in South Sudan has been accepted
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