User talk:DannyS712/Archive 2

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One third right!

Please be more careful! It's all in the first line. Johnbod (talk) 01:10, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

@Johnbod: Thanks. Sorry about that --DannyS712 (talk) 01:12, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

AfD closes

Hi. Unless you're closing AfDs as speedy keep, can you let them run for a full 7 days please. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs recorded by One Direction was closed almost a full day early. Thanks. --Michig (talk) 07:15, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

@Michig: My apologies. I saw that other articles from the same day were being closed (eg Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caswell Berry (2nd nomination) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Pope (2nd nomination)) and thought it was okay. Looking back now I see that both of those had been relisted, and were old enough to close. I'll be much more careful in the future. So sorry about that, if you want to revert me you will have absolutely no objection from me. --DannyS712 (talk) 07:20, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Submission Help

Hey,

I hope you are well. I took out the external links from the body of my article. I made revisions and cleaned up the content and also added more information regarding the Fraternity. I pasted three links to three other South Asian Fraternities. They have similar citations and have been published as pages. I would really appreciate your help.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Delta_Sigma_Iota https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Epsilon_Psi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma_Beta_Rho https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iota_Nu_Delta

Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frahman16 (talk • contribs) 11:51, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

@Frahman16: Can you please try to include reliable references from independent sources? Currently the 4 references are: 3 from the organization's own site, and 1 from a list of similar organizations, which is not enough to meet the general notability guidelines. --DannyS712 (talk) 16:10, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Hey Danny,

I’ve received all other south asian American fraternity/sorority Wikipedia pages and their references. The same restrictions on reliable sources haven’t been put on their pages. If you compare the three Wikipedia pages I attached in my previous post, they pages are identical in style. Can you please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frahman16 (talk • contribs) 16:14, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

@Frahman16: I don't have time at the moment, but I will later today --DannyS712 (talk) 16:18, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! I really appreciate your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frahman16 (talk • contribs) 16:20, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

@Frahman16: I'm sorry, but I can't approve this draft. Those 3 articles are all problematic, and 2 were tagged with {{primary sources}}. I tagged the third as {{Third-party sources}}, because those articles have the same issues this draft does. --DannyS712 (talk) 19:49, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Danny, What do you suggest I do to get this article published? Because I am just following the guidelines set forth by similar articles. They all have the same type of references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frahman16 (talk • contribs) 20:27, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

@Frahman16: Please find independent sources that establish the notability of the subject. See WP:RS and WP:GNG for the general guidelines. --DannyS712 (talk) 20:31, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Danny, I've changed the sources to independent sources found from different collegiate institutes. They are not delta sigma iota affiliated sites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frahman16 (talk • contribs) 20:36, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

@Frahman16: They still do not qualify as significant coverage of the topic. Sorry --DannyS712 (talk) 20:46, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

I dont understand what type of coverage you want from me. It's pretty unfair how this article isn't being published over the other organizations who had articles published using their own websites as references. Please take a look at these published articles and explain to me why they are published and mine isn't. One of the published pages doesn't even have any references. This is really unfair. Thank you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iota_Nu_Delta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Chi_Theta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Epsilon_Psi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma_Beta_Rho — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frahman16 (talk • contribs) 20:51, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

@Frahman16: If it were up to me those wouldn't have been published in their current form. But, I suggest looking at this essay for an explanation on why that doesn't matter (imo) when evaluating this draft. --DannyS712 (talk) 20:57, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Danny what do you suggest I do, because this is the only South Asian Fraternity thats active in the country without a wikipedia page. It's unfair for other South Asian Fraternities to have pages with no references and references using their own websites. This takes away from the legitimacy of the organization from a person researching the topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frahman16 (talk • contribs) 21:01, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

@Frahman16: I suggest going to the teahouse for help. --DannyS712 (talk) 21:03, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Danny this is the wikipedia page of an African American Fraternity with 300 chapters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iota_Phi_Theta They use iota phi theta websites as references. Almost every fraternity wikipedia page that I've seen uses the fraternity websites as references. Danny I need you to understand that this is different situation compared to other articles. I had proper citation based on peer articles and its really unfair for this article not to be published. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frahman16 (talk • contribs) 21:06, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

@Frahman16: I may be wrong. If you decide to resubmit the article, I promise that I won't review it again. Another reviewer may decide to accept the draft, or decline it and explain why. --DannyS712 (talk) 21:13, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

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A Barnstar for you!

		All-Around Amazing Barnstar
		You are da best! 182.58.240.91 (talk) 16:23, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

No problem --DannyS712 (talk) 18:22, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

2019 Miami Hurricanes football season

I Created a page called 2019 Miami Hurrcianes football season I Put in one reference why because it's too soon. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 22:06, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Per WP:TOOSOON, Sometimes, a topic may appear obviously notable to you, but there may not be enough independent coverage of it to confirm that. In such cases, it may simply be too soon to create the article. I agree that this will be notable, and will eventually be included, but in its current form there are not enough references to established notability. If you try again in a few weeks, and add some more refs, it should be okay --DannyS712 (talk) 00:22, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Twinkle

Thanks for your interest in contributing to Twinkle. I assume you use GitHub? If so, feel free to dig right in: Twinkle is written in plain and simple JavaScript, though it does use the morebits.js library, which currently has quite poor documentation. You'll find a better-documented version here, for which I have filed a pull request.

There are a lot of open issues on the Git repo which you may want to go through. Or to do something quicker, I would suggest reviewing some pull requests. There a several opened by me which are pending. To test if changes are working as described, you can either copy-paste the whole module into the browser console, and if necessary call the module's initialisation function (such as Twinkle.tag() for the Tag module). Or you could paste in the module to a userspace page and import it.

Some of the long term to-dos are at WP:twinkle/to do. I have implemented the first in the list (See #485). Maybe you want to work on the rest :) Ping me if you have any queries. SD0001 (talk) 19:58, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

@SD0001: I have never used GitHub... --DannyS712 (talk) 19:59, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

I see. I would suggest going through some online tutorials such as on youtube to learn how to use Git. This ebook provides a comprehensive reference. Then you can create an account on github and be good to go. SD0001 (talk) 20:06, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

@SD0001: I won't have time for a couple of weeks, but I'll try to look into it. --DannyS712 (talk) 21:38, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Submission Help 2

Hi Danny--Thanks so much for your feedback. I totally revamped this article and I was wondering if you had any feedback or suggestions to improve it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Calvin_Goings Appreciate any input. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeattleWriter2019 (talk • contribs) 00:35, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

@SeattleWriter2019: There are a couple of issues:

There are a number of links to disambiguation pages that should be fixed. To help find which specific links I am referring to, I suggest following WP:DABDISPLAY
The use of citations in the middle of sentences is odd and should ideally be remedied
Building off of DGG's comment, the article does read as fairly promotional. Please review WP:NPOV

Once you have improved the article, I suggest resubmitting it to AfC so that another reviewer, who has not already seen the article and made up their mind about it (eg me) gives it a fair review.

--DannyS712 (talk) 01:06, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, Danny! As a new article writer I appreciate all of your help. I will fix the weird citations and move them to the end of the sentences. I've also modified some of the sentences to incorporate your feedback about promotionalism. Thanks again for taking the time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeattleWriter2019 (talk • contribs) 01:17, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

@SeattleWriter2019: No problem. I hope you do well with your article

--DannyS712 (talk) 01:19, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Modules

Are you still interested in learning about modules? If so, have you read mw:Extension:Scribunto/Lua reference manual yet? If not, it's a VERY helpful guide, covering a lot of the basics and some advanced parts of Lua. You can also check out https://www.lua.org/manual/5.3/. – BrandonXLF (t@lk) 05:54, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

@BrandonXLF: I don't really have time in the near future, but I am very very much still interested in learning about modules. I started reading some of the reference manual a while ago, and made started trying it out at User:DannyS712/module, but haven't touched it in a while. Thanks for the follow-up, and for the refs. I'll be sure to check them out when I have time --DannyS712 (talk) 06:14, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Ok, cool. – BrandonXLF (t@lk) 13:15, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

The WikiCup

As a WikiCup judge I have removed the two submissions you made for the DYK nominations. They were ineligible to score points in the WikiCup because they were nominated by you, and were not created or expanded by you. Nominating DYKs is very helpful but I am afraid it does not score points in the WikiCup. If you create / expand your own articles and nominate them for DYK later in the competition, please make sure you submit them after they have appeared at the main page and after you have received a notification on your talk page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:28, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

@Cwmhiraeth: Thanks. I'm sorry. I didn't realize that it had to be an article that I created or expanded. In the future I'll remember to submit them after they appear on the main page. --DannyS712 (talk) 19:39, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

That's OK. The rules are rather complex and you are by no means the only contestant who has made ineligible submissions. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:13, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

@Cwmhiraeth: If I make any other mistakes, you don't need to post here. But, can I ask that you explain which rules I broke when you remove the submission, so that I can easily connect the mistake with the explanation? Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 20:57, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Try here, although it does not actually mention that nominating an article does not count. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 21:02, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

@Cwmhiraeth: Thanks. Maybe the rule should be clarified? --DannyS712 (talk) 22:35, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Linda Sarsour

I nominated the Linda Sarsour article for GA; Sarsour is a controversial Muslim American feminist activist. Would you like to review it?MagicatthemovieS (talk) 21:31, 11 January 2019 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS

@MagicatthemovieS: Sure, but I don't have a lot of dedicated time at the moment. I'll start the review soon, but in the meantime can I suggest adding a WP:Short description to her article? --DannyS712 (talk) 21:35, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks so much! I added the description.MagicatthemovieS (talk) 21:45, 11 January 2019 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS

@MagicatthemovieS: Also when I check a few minutes ago it wasn't yet listed on the ga noms page. I saw a different article Elena Kagan that jumped out at me, so I'm reviewing that. You might want to have someone else do yours, but when I'm done if no one else has I'll try to --DannyS712 (talk) 21:48, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

I'm ready when you are.MagicatthemovieS (talk)MagicatthemovieS

@MagicatthemovieS: I don't know if I'll have time soon --DannyS712 (talk) 05:14, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

You did it: Cat links 2.js

Wow, harvesting a category. You figured it out. For such an amazing feat, you deserve this...

		The User Script Barnstar
		is hereby awarded to DannyS712 for writing Cat links 2.js, a script for harvesting links from categories, paving the way for this core technique to be applied in Wikipedia's navigation departments. Keep up the excellent work! Kudos._ — The Transhumanist 23:52, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: scripts are fun. It was a hard challenge, but I'm not done yet. Soon up: add links to categories and files (need ":"), then modules and templates. --DannyS712 (talk) 01:58, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Wow. Blue + black = blind :P ―Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk • contribs) 02:01, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

@Abelmoschus Esculentus: Thanks, and thanks for adopting me ( --DannyS712 (talk) 02:02, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

I am referring to the black background and blue signature in case you don't get it. It's my pleasure. ―Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk • contribs) 02:04, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

@Abelmoschus Esculentus: Yeah, I got that. You could also refer to the black bags under my eyes... --DannyS712 (talk) 02:22, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Challenge #2

(Category harvesting to auto-build navigation pages)

I'm so excited.

Cat links 2 is a very significant achievement, because there are 3 types of pages that we've been trying to automate the construction of: outlines, portals, and navbox footer templates. (Indexes and glossaries are obvious future targets). Along with automatic insertion (instead of appending), automated category harvesting could enable all of these.

Let's start with the most straight-forward use for this: filling in outlines...

Here's an example of the type of functionality we're looking for:

You have a menu item, in tools in the left sidebar, named Cats. When you are on an outline and you click on Cats, the script goes through the outline, looking for empty sections. For each one it finds, it goes to the like-named category and inserts the members list for that category into that section.

A script that processes the wikitext in similar fashion is RedlinksRemover.js. It uses regex search/replace to delete list items that start with redlinks (search/replace to null), and converts embedded redlinks to regular text (search/replace). Its code could be adapted to search/replace to insert category member lists.

Another program (besides cat links 2) that inserts lists is User:JL-Bot/Project content. It uses tags in the form of hidden comments to delimit the area it places the lists in, so that it can update them again later (by removing and replacing the old lists with new ones). For an example, look at the comments in the wikicode at Portal talk:Freedom of speech#Recognized content.

So, not only could the core functionality of Cat links 2 add lists, it could be used to maintain/update those lists as well.

Now, the question is...

Are you up to the challenge? — The Transhumanist 04:32, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: I'm not sure, but we'll see. For annotating outlines, what do you think of just using the short descriptions of the articles? That should be a lot easier to manage than sentences from the lede... --DannyS712 (talk) 04:43, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Annotating is another animal altogether. There are problems with the short description approach as well. We'll need a custom-designed approach that fits outlines.

Being able to harvest categories and put those entries in the right place in an outline (and doing that again and again in rapid fashion) is the current focus. That is, to build bare outlines (and expand existing outlines) the entries of which can be annotated later.

Once we have all the components (building, annotating, etc.), we can integrate those all into a complete outline builder.

You are right. This is going to be fun.

— The Transhumanist 04:58, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: Just to clarify, what exactly are you asking me to do. Make a script to go through section by section? --DannyS712 (talk) 21:02, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Sorry in advance

Maybe I have seemed a little overly sarcastic in use of language when replying to Winged Blades criticism of the DYK article you had passed related to crowd control, so sorry in advance if it seems harsh. Sorry. Regards DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 06:09, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

@DiplomatTesterMan: I won't have time to look at the nomination tomorrow. If you can improve it enough that I don't see any clear POV issues when I check it, it should be okay. I trust your judgement. Sarcasm is fine, but thanks for making it clear that it was sarcasm - it can be hard to tell when just reading the words rather than hearing a tone... --DannyS712 (talk) 06:24, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Well, no problem with not being able to see the nomination. I have just actually mentioned in the nomination how I do NOT think there are clear POV issues with the article as pointed out by a user and have explained the same quickly. If people other than Winged Blades thinks so, then of course I will expand it since consensus is partly how this place functions. Anyway, cheers. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 06:29, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Michael Atiyah

On 12 January 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Michael Atiyah, which you updated and nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:35, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Meera Sanyal

On 12 January 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Meera Sanyal, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:39, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Edwin Erickson

On 12 January 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Edwin Erickson, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Spencer^T•C 23:48, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

My apologies for the delay; I was interrupted after I posted it on ITN. Some admins in general are lazy with these but I tend to try to give them out. Thanks for the ping, Spencer^T•C 23:48, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

@Spencer: No problem, and thanks. Also, ping MSGJ about Patricia Wald currently on the main page... --DannyS712 (talk) 23:49, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Janos Szani

Nice catch. If you see others, it was made by this user and should be immediately tagged. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 06:45, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

I've also now created Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/XX MinecraftPro Xx to check for sleepers. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 06:52, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

@HickoryOughtShirt?4: Lol I made Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Elazardo - that's the older account... --DannyS712 (talk) 07:02, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! Unfortunalty, the original page I found was deleted so I cannot see the other accounts that edited the original page, so ya, a CU is absoltuly needed. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 07:05, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

@HickoryOughtShirt?4: np --DannyS712 (talk) 07:06, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for George Brady (Holocaust survivor)

On 13 January 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article George Brady (Holocaust survivor), which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Black Kite (talk) 18:06, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Patricia Wald

On 12 January 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Patricia Wald, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:02, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 3, 2019)

Vicki Gunvalson in 2009

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CSS approach for green redirects

See Wikipedia:Tip of the day/March 17. — The Transhumanist 07:44, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: yeah, see User:BrandonXLF/GreenRedirects. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 07:46, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #347

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Events
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Development
- Solving an issue that blocked deployments over the past weeks (phab:T212427)
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- Fixing problems with reverting Sense addition (phab:T211438)
- Improving our Javascript to be more standard (phab:T210744)
- Working on performing more constraint type checks in PHP before falling back to SPARQL (phab:T209504)
- Making the query service logo and favicon configurable in one's own Wikibase (phab:T212210)
- More work on displaying the termbox on mobile (phab:T207150)

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- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
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- Help write the next summary!

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Tech News: 2019-03

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

You can now use Google Translate in the content translation tool. [1][2]
You can now add captions to files on Commons. Captions are short descriptions of the file. They can be translated to all languages we use. They can't use wikitext markup.
Earlier a quoted HTML attribute had to be followed by a space. Now it doesn't. This means that some pages could look different when you save them even if you didn't edit that part of the text. [3][4]
Templates with <templatestyles> could not show the difference between the live template and the sandbox version when they were tested. This has now been fixed. <templatestyles> has a new wrapper parameter now. You can use it for selectors like .mw-parser-output <wrapper parameter value> <selector from CSS page>. [5]

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Changes later this week

You can move files from your wiki to Wikimedia Commons and keep the file history with the new FileExporter. It will be a beta feature on all wikis from 16 January. If you want to test it you activate it and check your wiki's configuration file.
Users who could cause more damage to the wikis if someone took over their account have to have more secure passwords. This includes administrators and other user groups. They can't use passwords that are in a list of common passwords. Accounts with common passwords are easy to take over. The list of common passwords was made longer a few weeks ago and has a different error message. Some user groups have been added to those who can't use common passwords. This is to protect all accounts with user rights that could cause damage. [7]
The AbuseFilter variable minor_edit has been removed. It was deprecated in 2016. Now you can't use it. You can fix the filters using it. You can find them if you use the search bar on Special:AbuseFilter.
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 15

17:54, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Your edits to (disambiguation) links on dab pages

Please stop adding (disambiguation) to links that already include (disambiguation), as you did here. This is not helpful and results in broken links. --ShelfSkewed Talk 02:10, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@ShelfSkewed: My sincere apologies. I was using DisamAssist, and I thought that marking then as intentionally linking to the disambiguation page would cause it to skip, not to make that edit. I will be far more cautious in the future when trying new tools. Thanks for rolling them back. --DannyS712 (talk) 02:36, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Ah, that makes sense. Those tools can sometimes have an interesting learning curve, can't they. Happy editing! --ShelfSkewed Talk 02:51, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@ShelfSkewed: Thanks, and thanks for the reverts! --DannyS712 (talk) 02:52, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	This is the first barnstar I have given to you. You are doing great in creating user scripts, creating the amazing scripts newsletter out of nowhere. You seem to be a regular in WP:EFFP and you may apply for edit filter helper/manager in WP:EFN later. Thanks for your work once again and have a great day :) ―Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk • contribs) 03:39, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@Abelmoschus Esculentus: Thank you so much. And, as you happen to mention it, without canvassing I just wanted to neutrally let you know that I am currently applying for EFH at the noticeboard. Again, thanks for adopting me. --DannyS712 (talk) 03:41, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Oh what a coincidence! Good luck. ―Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk • contribs) 03:56, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

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Edit request at Kashmir

Hi there, thanks a lot for your contributions. Although you removed this edit request. It is not the suggested way to handle such requests. Edit requests, even if empty should be marked as "Note done, empty". instead of removing entirely. Only obvious vandalism or BLP violation should be removed from the talk pages. IMHO that edit request was against NPOV, and should have been marked as "not done, violates NPOV". Removing them entirely, may confuse the editor who placed it and he may do it again. regards.--DBig Xrayᗙ 20:34, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@DBigXray: I usually do just decline, but for blank requests I have been removing them after a brief discussion (I couldn't find it, sorry) about having blank requests not serving any purpose. Otherwise, I reserve removing requests for blatant vandalism/copyvio, or in this case, NPOV. Sorry --DannyS712 (talk) 20:44, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

OK, that's your own call, but please note that editors might object to you removing Edit requests on the basis of NPOV especially on "hot pages" such as these on WP:ARBIPA. A talk page is exactly the place to discuss any "NPOV or lack thereof" in the article. Entirely removing POV requests, may lead users to think that wikipedia is enforced by censors.

Regarding removing the blank edit requests, initially I was of the same opinion that blank requests serve no useful purpose other than wasting talk page space, but The EPH script showed a message that blank requests should not be removed. I felt this suggestion made sense, because most of the time, the new users place those empty requests thinking that by posting the "edit request", they may get rights to edit the page, or the protection may be removed after "they make a request to edit", since that is not going to happen most of the time, they should be made aware that they can still place a "change X to Y request" and indirectly edit the article constructively. Removing after a brief discussion is also not helpful, because that short discussion might serve as an example to the next guy who is about to put up a blank request. Anyway this was just my own thought, that I shared with you. You obviously, are not bound to follow or act on these thoughts. cheers. --DBig Xrayᗙ 20:55, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@DBigXray: Thanks. I get what you're saying about "hot pages," and will be sure to avoid just removing requests like I did here. As for blank edit requests, your reasoning makes sense, so I'll try to limit it to just pages where there is already another edit request made that shows how they should be used. --DannyS712 (talk) 20:56, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

You are welcome, and I really appreciate your help in reducing the Edit request backlog, my comments should not discourage you to handle these requests even on the hot pages.

DBig Xrayᗙ 21:01, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@DBigXray: No problem. As someone whose 4th edit was an extended-protected edit request, I know the value of explaining denials rather than just removing requests. Anomie's tables for semi and extended protected edit requests are on my watch list, and I try to respond when I can. --DannyS712 (talk) 21:04, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Great!--DBig Xrayᗙ 21:06, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Reverting edit request

Hi! I noticed that in this edit, you reverted an edit request without using an edit summary, or leaving a message on the user's talk page. I've left them a note at User talk:Jacobzowza but in future you might want to give explanations to users in similar situations to avoid scaring them off. Thanks! — Bilorv_(c)(talk) 23:20, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

@Bilorv: My apologies. If you see the thread above, I realize that simply removing an edit request is often unadvisable, especially without an explanation, and will try to avoid doing so in the future. Again, sorry --DannyS712 (talk) 23:22, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Ah, I didn't see the thread above. No worries! — Bilorv_(c)(talk) 23:33, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

RE: List of oldest film directors moved to draftspace

I put same references in article. Botedance (talk) 22:06, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

@Botedance: I saw that. However, I'm not sure that this page meets Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists. --DannyS712 (talk) 22:09, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Category: True Range Multilation

I created this by mistake. I was trying to rename Trilateration to True Range Multilateration and eventually did, but it took two attempts. Thanks for catching. NavigationGuy (talk) 13:49, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

@NavigationGuy: No problem. --DannyS712 (talk) 16:10, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Looking for help

Hi,

I was looking for some small help. I created a new article in my user sandbox now the article stands transferred at Draft:Kithaab. The article has already received copyedit support from two Wikipedia Teahouse volunteer editors and has been recommended as complete and ready to be submitted for approval. Requesting your kind support in process of reviewing and accepting the article Draft:Kithaab. Thanks in advance and warm regards.

Bookku (talk) 14:29, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

@Bookku:

Done --DannyS712 (talk) 16:17, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for QIPHT

Hello, I left a reply for you at Template:Did you know nominations/Quebec International Pee-Wee Hockey Tournament about a week ago. Would you be able to review the changes? Thanks. Flibirigit (talk) 23:15, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

@Flibirigit: Sorry. I looked at the revamped section. The POV issue is solved, but can you give it a copy-edit? If not, I can do it, and then I'll approve the DYK. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 00:40, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Continued at nomination page, thanks! Flibirigit (talk) 02:17, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #026, 20 Jan 2019

Well, here's the first issue of the new year. Enjoy...

New participants

A hearty welcome to new arrivals to the portals department:

Harvesting categories tool prototype

DannyS712 has created a user script prototype, User:DannyS712/Cat links, that can pull members from a category, a functionality we've been after since the project's revamp last Spring. Now, it's a matter of applying this technique to scripts that will place the items where needed, such as in a section starter script and/or portal builder script.

New portals since last issue

What else is going on

There have been some discussions at Wikipedia talk:Portal guidelines.

DreamyJazz is working on a bot to place links to portals on root articles, category pages, and navigation footer templates.

Portal bugs are getting dealt with soon after they are reported.

Lots of wikignome activity (using Hotcat, etc.).

Keep up the good work. — The Transhumanist 08:13, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: Lol I just finished converting to a new graphic-based interface for the script, and was planning on releasing it in a few days. I could have included it in this... also, to track progress you may want to see https://github.com/DannyS712/Cat-links. --DannyS712 (talk) 08:38, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Cool. I put out updates whenever there is enough news, or really great news, to report. For example, issues #24 and #25 were only 4 days apart.

It looks like we'll be having another issue coming out soon! — The Transhumanist 08:42, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: Let me know ahead of time and I'll publish version 3 and switch it over --DannyS712 (talk) 08:43, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Ooh, version 3, nice. Switch it over? What does that mean? — The Transhumanist 09:03, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: Currently version 3 is in my test account/cat links 3.js, and in my main account cat links.js just calls import on cat links 2 (located in my main account). I will finish polishing up version 3, move it to my main account, and then switch it over, meaning that I will change the main cat links.js to import the new version 3 rather than the old version 2 --DannyS712 (talk) 09:06, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification. I'll start writing up the next issue just as soon as I get this one out to everybody. — The Transhumanist 09:19, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Updates on DYK

Hi DannyS712, Thanks a lot for your help in reviewing the DYK. ALthough I have been editing here since a long time, I only had my first DYK experience just last month, so I am not very familiar with the entire process. After the recent few comments on this DYK there seems to be almost no progress there. Is someone supposed to do something ? I would like to help and resolve any problems that could allow this DYK to move forward. I can see that WBG is of the opinion that the article is violating NPOV, but I tend to disagree with this subjective opinion. I was hoping to hear back from you if you had any specific suggestions that can be improved. Meanwhile today I did some improvements to the article in the pellet gun section and expanded both the casualty and criticism sub-section. --DBig Xrayᗙ 21:59, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

@DBigXray: I reread the article a few days ago, and was meaning to get back to you. Given how controversial the topic, and given that I know very little about it, and the fact that I've already decided that imo it meets npov, can I suggest getting a new reviewer? I'm fully okay with removing it from "approved" and letting someone else decide, but personally I thinks its okay --DannyS712 (talk) 22:02, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt reply. As I said above, I am a total newb as far as the DYK policies are concerned (this is my third DYK review with past 2 successful in last one month). So please do, as you feel appropriate or please ping an experienced DYK admin for advice in this case. If you would like to know my personal opinion, I would say that the article passes all the quality criteria for a DYK, without NPOV issues. The fact that you have reviewed it, re-read the article again and still feel that "it is okay" encourages me that the DYK should continue. So I would leave the decision to you. Being a nominator, obviously I would like my DYK to succeed. regards

--DBig Xrayᗙ 22:12, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

@DBigXray: See the dyk page --DannyS712 (talk) 22:30, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind note. --DBig Xrayᗙ 22:34, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

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Request on 05:17:33, 21 January 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Jainath.jaiswal

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- Draft:Chawariya Buzurg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

jainath 05:17, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Please review I have updated — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jainath.jaiswal (talk • contribs) 05:17, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

@Jainath.jaiswal: If you would like to resubmit your draft for review, there is an option to do so on the page (Draft:Chawariya Buzurg). However, I declined this submission previously because it was improperly sourced. Currently, it still has no references, so it would likely get declined again. If you update it with sourced, I'd be happy to look at it again for you. --DannyS712 (talk) 05:23, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Redirection script

Is any script possible; that helps us to redirect pages easily? It will just ask for a target XYZ and then (a) blank the entire wiki-text, (b) insert #REDIRECT[[xyz]] and save the page using an appropriate edit-sum. Additionally, a feature to notify the creator of his page being redirected (on the lines of Evad's draftification script) will be welcome.∯WBG^converse 13:03, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

@Winged Blades of Godric: So just to clarify, you want to add a tool that would:

Get a target page
Get a reason
Replace the content of the page the tool is activated on with a redirect to the target page, including the reason
Save the edit as something like "Redirecting to ABC using XYZ"
Create a new section on the creator's talk page with an alert?

--DannyS712 (talk) 19:28, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Absolutely. Additionally, the tool might be coupled with User:Sam Sailor/Scripts/Sagittarius+.∯WBG^converse 06:13, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

@Winged Blades of Godric: Yeah, I was going to base it off of enterprisey's AFCRHS, because that would probably be easier (imo, based on my familiarity with enterprisey's coding style) but that works to --DannyS712 (talk) 06:18, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

@Winged Blades of Godric: I'm not comfortable with making a script that would let you blank a page unless you are already looking at it. Would that be okay? --DannyS712 (talk) 05:27, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

I was working on such a script about a month ago but got stuck in trying to retrieve the RCats..... << FR ^(mobileUndo) 05:19, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

@FR30799386: maybe look at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:EnterpriseyBot/AFCRHS.js&action=edit, starting at line 248, for an easy to copy list of templates --DannyS712 (talk) 05:23, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

That's a good find ;) << FR ^(mobileUndo) 07:23, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

@FR30799386: yeah. Thats what I was going to base my script off of, but if you already started one I'll leave it to you. Let me know if you need any help --DannyS712 (talk) 07:33, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

@DannyS712 and Winged Blades of Godric: I have put together a proof of concept script at User:FR30799386/redirectify.js. There is still some work to be done. Any feedback or bug report would be welcomed. << FR ^(mobileUndo) 15:45, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

BTW DannyS712, any chance of creating a function which checks if a page exists ? I tried using twinkle's

new Morebits.wiki.page(target).exists()

, but it did not work as expected.... << FR ^(mobileUndo) 16:12, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

@FR30799386: use the api. See this call for example --DannyS712 (talk) 16:18, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

@FR30799386: I took a look at some of your code, and tested it (just looking, didn't actually redirect anything) but I have a few suggestions / edit requests below (your line(s), followed by my suggested replacement for them, highlighted). Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 03:57, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

var title = decodeURI(mw.config.get('wgPageName'));
var title = (mw.config.get('wgPageName')).replace( '_', ' ' );
var messagetouser = window.messagetouser || '==Redirecting article:' + title + '==\nAn article you recently created, [[' + title + ']], does not seem to have [[WP:SOURCE|enough reliable third party sources]] to merit [[WP:N|inclusion in the encyclopedia]] in itself. It has been [[WP:REDIRECT|redirected]] to $1 which is related to the subject of the article.~~~~';
var messagetouser = window.messagetouser || '==Redirecting page:' + title + '==\nA page you created, [[' + title + ']], does not seem to have [[WP:SOURCE|enough reliable third party sources]] to merit [[WP:N|inclusion in the encyclopedia]] in itself. It has been [[WP:REDIRECT|redirected]] to $1 which is related to the subject of the article.~~~~';
$redirectify.append('<br><label for="r-message">Message : (Remove current text to prevent message for being sent)</label>\n<textarea id="r-message" rows="4" columns="20">' + messagetouser + '</textarea>\n<span><b>Note :</b>$1 denotes target article</span>');
$redirectify.append('<br><label for="r-message">Message : (Remove current text to prevent message for being sent)</label>\n<textarea id="r-message" rows="4" columns="20">' + messagetouser + '</textarea>\n<span><b>Note :</b>$1 denotes target page</span>');

Sure :), I'll make those changes the moment I get access to my laptop (I'm on mobile now....) << FR ^(mobileUndo) 05:07, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Winged Blades of Godric and DannyS712, is there any other feature which could be added to the script? I have an idea of creating a preview button and a feature to prevent the script from loading if the page is a GA or FA. << FR ^(mobileUndo) 15:45, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Many thanks, for designing the script:-) Both the supposed features will be quite nice:-) And, allowing this for EC-confirmed editors (which's quite easy) won't be much of a bad feature, probably.∯WBG^converse 15:51, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

@FR30799386: A few thoughts: I just used this to create the redirect at User talk:DannyS712/template sandbox, but the template didn't insert - bug? Second, could the edit summary prompt be in the same form as making the redirect, rather than a prompt afterwards? Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 16:06, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

@FR30799386: could you make it require an edit summary? Otherwise its just the default, which doesn't explain why it was redirected. See, eg, this edit. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 02:50, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

@FR30799386: I don't know if you saw my suggestions above. Can you also prevent the script from running on special pages, cause they can't be redirected? The check if( mw.config.get( "wgNamespaceNumber" ) >= 0 ) should do the trick. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 20:49, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

I'll implement them when I get time. I don't seem to be getting any pings from anybody, and I can't figure out what has happened. << FR ^(mobileUndo) 08:11, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

@FR30799386: The template inserted when I tried it with this edit. But, the edit summary wasn't actually required (this edit made it marked as required, but doesn't stop it from working with a blank summary). Thanks for turning it off on special pages, and for integrating the summary into the interface. TL;DR - Its a great script, but the edit summary isn't actually being required. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 03:17, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

I'll switch them over to OOUI the next time I edit it. That should solve the "required" bug. << FR ^(mobileUndo) 03:22, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Tony Mendez

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Wikidata weekly summary #348

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

Events
- Past: Workshop on Data Quality Management in Wikidata, 18 January, Berlin. You can check the collaborative documentation
  - Keynote by Amrapali Zaveri (video)
  - Keynote by Daniel Mietchen (slides, video)
- Upcoming: free software workshop (including Wikidata) in Lyon, France, January 23rd
- Upcoming: Wikidata workshop in Côte d'Ivoire, February 9th
- Upcoming: Library data camp, a training for librairies about open data and Wikidata, Manchester, UK, March 11th

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Development
- Fixed a small bug that we introduced with editing badges on wd.org (phab:T213998)
- Finished collecting data about the user of the termbox (phab:T211015)
- Fixed an i18n message (phab:T206416)
- Created some maintenance scripts for creating and approving oauth consumers (phab:T211568)
- Checked for possible data coruptions due to an issue with change tags (phab:T213281)
- Fixed an issue with restoring merge revisions in Lexeme (phab:T204041)
- Configured WikibaseQualityConstraints on test.wikidata (phab:T209922)
- Turned on the new entity id formatting for properties (phab:T201838)
- Continued work on glosses, displaying the language name also in edit mode (phab:T209931)
- Starting investigating on Shape Expressions
- Mobile termbox: showing language, description and aliases (phab:T207150)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!

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Tech News: 2019-04

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Tech News

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Recent changes

The content translation tool can now use version 2 as the default version for users who turned on the beta feature. For example it adds the tracking category Pages with unreviewed translations to translations that might have used machine translations without fixing the problems. This is so others can find them. You can find this category in Special:TrackingCategories on Wikipedias.
https://mediawiki2latex-large.wmflabs.org can now convert collects of up to 800 pages to PDF, EPUB or ODT. Previously this was 200 pages.

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When a template was edited with the visual editor, it would sometimes put all information on one line. This makes it difficult to read for editors who use the wikitext editor. It also makes it more difficult to see what happened in a diff. This problem affected edits made between 8 and 17 January and is now fixed. [9]
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Because of a database problem that had to be fixed immediately you could not edit most wikis for a couple of minutes on 17 January (UTC). This has now been fixed. [12]

Changes later this week

You will be able to use template styles in the Module namespace. [13]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 January. It will be on all wikis from 24 January (calendar).

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ITN recognition for Chad–Israel relations

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RM requests

Two of your user pages, User:DannyS712 test/FWTH/PageMoverClosure.js and User:DannyS712/PageMoverClosure.js are appearing at WP:RM#Malformed requests. How can this be fixed? Paine Ellsworth, ed. ^put'r there 04:42, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

@Paine Ellsworth: I added <nowiki> tags around the code - that should solve it. How long will it take for the page to update? --DannyS712 test (talk) 06:03, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

The bot runs about every 15 minutes, so by now that section that I linked is clear of your user pages. Best to you! Paine Ellsworth, ed. ^put'r there 09:59, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

@Paine Ellsworth: No problem. Thanks for the note --DannyS712 (talk) 16:16, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Pleasure! Paine —Preceding undated comment added 16:18, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

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You've read that, yes? Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 06:03, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

@Suffusion of Yellow:

Done thank you so much --DannyS712 (talk) 06:11, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

12Hours.js

Hey,

User:DannyS712/12Hours script not working from this morning. Please fix it bro! :( Siddiqsazzad001 <Talk/> 05:19, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

@Siddiqsazzad001: It still works for me... are you getting any javascript errors in your console? --DannyS712 (talk) 06:19, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

@Siddiqsazzad001: Yeah I just installed your entire common.js (it was the only js I could find in your userspace) and it still worked... --DannyS712 (talk) 06:22, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Mozila and Chrome works (PC). But failed to Opera Mini! Any Idea for mobile js? I think this js not comfortable with my mobile device. Is it written in Java 8+? Siddiqsazzad001 <Talk/> 06:36, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

@Siddiqsazzad001: I don't have mobile js, and this is written in javascript... --DannyS712 (talk) 06:40, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

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Cross Island line MRT stations

Hi, I see that you have moved the articles regarding the new stations to Draft. They are actually announced just a few hours ago. When writing the articles, I forgot to include a source. The Land Transport Authority of Singapore has issued a press release regarding these stations. See https://www.lta.gov.sg/apps/news/page.aspx?c=2&id=37d81457-ef62-4b9a-aadb-d587da5d71b7 and https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/first-phase-of-cross-island-mrt-line-finalised-will-have-12-stations. Wpeneditor (talk) 04:10, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

@Wpeneditor: I'm in the middle of writing a longer explanation on your talk page. --DannyS712 (talk) 04:11, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Please review Draft:U.S. Dollar ICE Bank Yield Index

I first posted a few minutes ago. You market it as draft a few minutes later. It's now ready for publishing (a few minutes from now). Thank-you. Bradwarden (talk • contribs) 04:52, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

@Bradwarden: Are you sure you want me to review it? In its current form, I don't think that there is enough to claim notability, but another reviewer might disagree. --DannyS712 (talk) 04:59, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

I thought 3 references with reasonable explanation would suffice, but I suppose it is up to those more familiar with how Wikipedia works. Are we looking for longer content? Should we mark this as a stub for now? Bradwarden (talk • contribs) 05:13, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

@Bradwarden: Below is my analysis of the sources used --DannyS712 (talk) 05:24, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

**Source assessment table:**
Source	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-24/there-s-a-new-rival-to-libor-built-by-those-who-oversee-libor	~ Reports that this new index was announced, but primary focus seems to be the fall of Libor	~ Partial
https://www.theice.com/publicdocs/futures/Bank_Yield_Index_WP.pdf		✘ No
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20190124005438/en/ICE-Benchmark-Administration-Introduces-U.S.-Dollar-ICE	~ Appears to be just an announcement	~ Partial
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

I thought this should be only used in deletion discussions? Or not? ―Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk • contribs) 16:19, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

@Abelmoschus Esculentus: idk. Since npp is sort of based on if it would survive deletion or not, I think its okay. --DannyS712 (talk) 17:47, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Danny, it's good you're checking articles and trying to improve Wikipedia. I'm still not sure what is to be achieved by keeping this article in draft. There is nothing wrong with the article. Regarding one source being "not independent" as a negative thing does not make sense, because ICE is the creator of the index and so the most authoritative, which is a positive thing. Whether an article has a different focus or is "just an announcement" does not exclude them as reliable and relevant news sources. Bloomberg and BusinessWire are some of the most reputable. This new index announced in the past day or so, of course, will not have a plethora of information available. If this index slowly replaces Libor, it will be the reference point for most interest rates globally including hundreds of trillions of dollars, like Libor used to. Wikipedia article guidelines say that if an article is less than 1 kb in length for a few months, it may be merged into another article. This article is longer than that. I thought Wikipedia is all about everyone sharing good quality information with standard and guidelines, but if you have to be some expert before sharing, then we may have missed the point. I don't think you're taking the best path here in limiting the growth of knowledge for everyone, but it's up to you. If it there ends up being no article, I hope you think you've done the right thing. Whether you un-draft it or not, the ball is in your court. All the best, mate.Bradwarden (talk • contribs) 05:03, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

@Bradwarden: I completely agree that this is likely to be notable, but in its current form I don't believe it has the significant coverage needed. If it has more news about it in the next few days, given how notable it likely is, then it should be ready to move to mainspace. You're welcome to update me about any improvements if you'd like, or I can just check the draft in a few days. --DannyS712 (talk) 06:08, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Danny, you said you'd check the draft after a few days, but I don't see any change. I'm requesting you un-draft the page and publish it given the amount of news: U.S. Dollar ICE Bank Yield Index Google Results. Thanks. Bradwarden (talk • contribs) 03:23, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

@Bradwarden: I haven't done anything to the draft because you haven't edited it at all; thus, my initial concerns remain. If there is so much news, can you add references to some of it to the draft? --DannyS712 (talk) 03:28, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Danny, as it stands it is a legitimate article. I does not need changing. It is ready to be published. This article has 3 references. I did a quick look at random articles and found other articles with only 1 or 2 references [Ministry of Research, Science and Technology (New Zealand)] [Tuczępy, Świętokrzyskie Voivodeship]. Are you going to request deletion of these also? Did you think about Abelmoschus Esculentus's comment? What is the reason for you being so against this article? Is the attitude you have going to encourage everyone to contribute to Wikipedia, or are you working against the ideals of Wikipedia? Take time to consider what influence you are having. Bradwarden (talk • contribs) 03:38, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

@Bradwarden: As I said at the start, I am not comfortable publishing this, but another reviewer might disagree. You are welcome to submit it again, and I promise that I won't be the one to review it. Abelmoschus Esculentus is right that usually such analysis is left for the area of deletion, but as explained at WP:AFCPURPOSE, the purpose of reviewing drafts submitted is to analyze whether they would survive the deletion process. I moved it to draft for the same reason - I just didn't think it was suitable for mainspace. If you would like to resubmit it, please do; I'm not going to stand in your way. Hope this explanation helps --DannyS712 (talk) 03:54, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

You did waste time and effort on blocking this legitimate article, didn't you? Rather than your actions being of restriction and deletion (which have their place, but not in this case), going forward, I look forward to your actions being ones of support, encouragement and creation. Bradwarden (talk • contribs) 04:00, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

@Bradwarden: No, I did not waste time and effort on blocking this legitimate article. Again, as I said on the 25th, I completely agree that this is likely to be notable, but in its current form I don't believe it has the significant coverage needed. If it has more news about it in the next few days, given how notable it likely is, then it should be ready to move to mainspace. You're welcome to update me about any improvements if you'd like, or I can just check the draft in a few days. But, without any improvements being made, without any of the more recent news being included, I simply don't believe its ready. My actions were intended to be those of support, encouragement and creation, and I'm sorry you feel otherwise. --DannyS712 (talk) 04:08, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

account

Hi Danny, thanks for the ping, my account is ext confirmed and this is my only account. I am willing to help but cant see anyway to assist you.--DBig Xrayᗙ 18:21, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

@DBigXray: You could make an alt account... see Special:CreateAccount --DannyS712 (talk) 18:40, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

yes, I dont intend to use an alt account, so would avoid it. Lets see if FR can assist in some way this proposal, since he also contributes here with scripts. Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)#To_reduce_the_collateral_damage_from_semi-protected_articles --DBig Xrayᗙ 18:50, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

I used a IP to check this out, it's a great idea which could do with some refining. It's actually a better replacement for Pending Changes since it doesn't automatically merge changes together making the reviewing discrete changes easier. << FR ^(mobileUndo) 09:25, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

@FR30799386: Then please practice getting denied, so I can test it out more --DannyS712 (talk) 09:26, 26 January 2019 (UTC) --DannyS712 (talk) 09:27, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Stale Drafts

See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Abandoned_Drafts/Stale_drafts for a list and [[14]] for some good instructions. Much of what you are bring to MfD can be an easy U5 or G11 speedy delete. Keep up the good work. Legacypac (talk) 01:30, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

@Legacypac: I'd rather not ask for speedy deletion, given Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Joels1214/20 Keys and the recent failure of my proposal that these can be speedy deleted even if they aren't officially afc submisisons. --DannyS712 (talk) 01:33, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

And Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:JoelisJoel/The Quad --DannyS712 (talk) 01:34, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

A lot of abandoned userspace pages will be accepted for U5. If you take too many to MfD some people (not me) will get annoyed and try to frustrate your efforts. Save MfD for the odd case where a CSD is declined. Legacypac (talk) 01:36, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

@Legacypac: (edit conflict) see my explanation below --DannyS712 (talk) 01:37, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

And basically all of @SmokeyJoe:'s responses. Given that, on the one hand, I'm told that these are easy speedy deletes, and on the other, that they are speedy keeps... --DannyS712 (talk) 01:36, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

MfD is not for near-miss speedy deletes. Yes, consider Speedy delete issues first. Failing that, consider non-deletion options, per WP:ATD. Do not fill MfD with busywork. CSD are purposefully narrow and objective, but at MfD the onus is on the nominator to justify this last fix it resort of deletion. In general, meddling with others userspace is destructive to editor collegiality. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:43, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Redirect to the current best page for that topic, or {{Inactive userpage blanked}} is almost always the best options for non-speediable abandoned drafts in userspace. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:45, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

SmokeyJoe will be one of the first to run interference at MfD because he has a different opinion on (non) managememt of userspace. Good guy but he prefers an near empty MfD list. My User:Legacypac/CSD_log may assure you I know what will be an accepted CSD. I strongly support cleanup in stale userspace. I find all kimds of copyvio, spam and attack pages there and sometimes even something good to send to mainspace. Legacypac (talk) 01:48, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

@Legacypac: Okay, I'll consider speedy first --DannyS712 (talk) 01:54, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Be liberal with G11 and G12. Be conservative with MfD, because you are basically requesting multiple community members to second guess your management decisions, and this usually amounts to a net-negative contribution. Also beware of disrespecting possible future returning editors. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:13, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Also be liberal with U5. Not a plausible contribution, and no contributions of any value in the user’s edit history. After a long struggle in the question, I and the community decided that a default of leeway for the editor depends on them first making some contributions to the project. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:17, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

@SmokeyJoe: Will do. Thanks and sorry --DannyS712 (talk) 02:14, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

My pleasure, no apologies required. Please excuse my sometimes gruff appearance, if that’s what it looks like. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:17, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

@SmokeyJoe: Not gruff, just the "Speedy keep speedy keep" on all of them was juxtaposed with the "speedy delete, speedy delete" and it through me off. No worries --DannyS712 (talk) 02:18, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Often, “Speedy” means little more than “do something WP:BOLDly, as it’s not worth an XfD’s week worth of discussing”. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:21, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

@SmokeyJoe: Okay, I'll remember that --DannyS712 (talk) 02:23, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

You are new, and a script writer!! I want to keep you happy and stay on your good side. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help your happy and efficient contributing. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:24, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
@SmokeyJoe: I'm not that new, but thanks --DannyS712 (talk) 02:26, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

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@Alucard 16:

Done I've responded --DannyS712 (talk) 02:16, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Jim McKean

On 26 January 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Jim McKean, which you updated and nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 03:55, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Royal Suva Yacht Club

I would not normally request a review of an AfC as I would do it myself but because I have substantially rewritten Draft:Royal Suva Yacht Club I feel there would be a potential conflict of interest in me doing the review. Is it possible for you as a fellow reviewer to check and provide your assessment. Thanks. Dan arndt (talk) 11:37, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

@Dan arndt:

Doing... --DannyS712 (talk) 11:37, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

@Dan arndt:

Done I left a comment. If its still pending tomorrow, let me know and I'll take another look. It should be main-space ready with a bit of work --DannyS712 (talk) 11:41, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, much appreciated. Dan arndt (talk) 11:43, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

@Dan arndt: No problem. Its an interesting, if niche, topic. I look forward to rereading it tomorrow --DannyS712 (talk) 11:44, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

I've accepted it, then noticed this doscussion on my watchlist. Legacypac (talk) 13:26, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

@Legacypac and Dan arndt: no problem. Given the improvementn made since I looked at it, I would have approved it to. I've marked the page as patrolled. --DannyS712 (talk) 17:16, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Nils Hasselmo

On 26 January 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Nils Hasselmo, which you updated and nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:15, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Hello

Please don't close active discussions, especially when there are current posts with pings requesting a reply (especially from an admin). Thanks - wolf 00:13, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

@Thewolfchild: I’ve already posted about this on your talk page. Do you want to have the conversation here or there? --DannyS712 (talk) 00:14, 27 January 2019 (UTC) Actually, since you just reverted me there, I'll copy it over:

Hi. I just wanted to ask you about this edit you made. I have a couple questions. 1: Could you explain what you meant by This is why users with only a few weeks experience should not be closing *active* discussions. 2: Could you explain why, as a participant involved in the discussion, you reverted me without even talking to me about it first. and 3: Why do you think the discussion should stay open?

Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 00:12, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

(yet another (edit conflict)) I think my edit summary is self-explanatory.
I don't need to ask your permission to revert a close that should not have been made in the first place.
I think "active discussion" is also self-explanatory. But also see my post above. Thanks. - wolf 00:20, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

@Thewolfchild: after yet another (edit conflict) lol,

It wasn't. "This is why" - what is "this?" what was the huge blatant mistake that I made?
I disagree that I should not have made it, but even if I shouldn't have, was there really such a huge error that you, an active participant, felt obliged to revert me?
This doesn't answer my question, so I'll rephrase. What potential purpose does the discussion serve, now that the RfA is closed, other than causing disagreements (or allowing them to develop, etc)?

Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 00:24, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Where did I say "huge blatant mistake"...?

Your disagreement is obvious. Again, where did I say "huge error"...? I reverted you because, again; there are current posts with pings requesting a reply (including one from an admin). Allow those that have been pinged to reply. For instance, I was writing out my reply to another user when you closed it. So, my reply shouldn't stand because you arbitrarily chose to close at that moment? There is also a current question, with ping, from an admin to one of the users, how about allowing them an opportunity to reply? Is that ok with you?

I believe I've answered your questions. The discussion should not have been closed yet. And if it's all the same to you, I don't really have anything more to add and don't really care to continue what can only become a circular debate. This is a discussion you can feel free to close. Thanks and have a nice day. - wolf 00:39, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

@Thewolfchild: Okay. Lets just put this behind us. No hard feelings? --DannyS712 (talk) 00:41, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Looks like Tony has done that for us. (See, dont feel bad, even admins make bad calls every now and then). Nope, no hard feelings, I'm not emotionally invested enough in Wikipedia for that. Happy editing - wolf 03:34, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Template:Japan topics

Hi. I'm wondering what I should do about this template, which is semi protected. I lay out a brief history of the issue below, but the question is: if an editor continues to remove the imperial seal from the template, even after I start a talk thread about it, and even after I post on their talk page, what should I do? I don't want to edit war, but I also don't think it should be removed

01:25, 24 January 2019 - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Japan_topics&diff=879889224&oldid=870602524&diffmode=source seal removed
04:11, 24 January 2019 - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Japan_topics&diff=879907144&oldid=875004697&diffmode=source IP asks that the seal be added back
05:11, 24 January 2019 - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Japan_topics&diff=879912622&oldid=879889224&diffmode=source I added it back
03:26, 25 January 2019 - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Japan_topics&diff=880065520&oldid=879912622&diffmode=source removed again
03:54, 25 January 2019 - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Japan_topics&diff=880068785&oldid=880065520&diffmode=source I added it back
03:55, 25 January 2019 - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Japan_topics&diff=880068880&oldid=879912648&diffmode=source I start a talk page section, pinging the relevant editor
00:41, 27 January 2019 - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Japan_topics&diff=880361127&oldid=880323876&diffmode=source removed again
00:43, 27 January 2019 - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Japan_topics&diff=880361337&oldid=880361127&diffmode=source I added it back
00:44, 27 January 2019 - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Spaceastronaut&diff=prev&oldid=880361407&diffmode=source I post to the relevant editor's talk page
00:46, 27 January 2019 - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Japan_topics&diff=880361695&oldid=880361337&diffmode=source removed again
07:20, 27 January 2019 - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Japan_topics&diff=880407877&oldid=880361695&diffmode=source Added back by someone else
22:55, 27 January 2019 - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Japan_topics&diff=880530407&oldid=880407877&diffmode=source removed again
23:14, 27 January 2019 - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Japan_topics&diff=880533344&oldid=880530407&diffmode=source I added it back

Also, the editor in question is removing the seal in other places:

01:11, 27 January 2019 - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Japan&diff=880364705&oldid=880324455 removed
07:20, 27 January 2019 - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Japan&diff=880407916&oldid=880364705 added back by another editor
22:56, 27 January 2019 - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Japan&diff=880530517&oldid=880407916 removed again

There have also been two other edit requests by IP, one before the one I responded to, and one after, both asking that it be removed. Both IPs have been blocked for vandalism.

Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 00:56, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

User has been indef blocked, so no more need for help --DannyS712 (talk) 02:56, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Chiedu Osakwe

Thanks for the feedback. done — Preceding unsigned comment added by NOTNWiki (talk • contribs) 05:39, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

@NOTNWiki: No problem --DannyS712 (talk) 05:51, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

G10 nom

Hi Danny, I am curious what exactly made you interpret/think of Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/List of HD DVD devices as an attack page? It did not contain "libel, legal threats, material intended purely to harass or intimidate a person or biographical material about a living person that is entirely negative in tone and unsourced" as far as I can tell? It seemed more like new editor frustration to me. Just curious your thoughts, TheSandDoctor ^Talk 08:41, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

@TheSandDoctor: I thought that is was "intended purely to harass" the wikipedia community, those I can see why that is a stretch. Sorry --DannyS712 (talk) 08:59, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Help editing

Hi Danny: Can you help me edit the Diego Morilla profile? My email is etravag@hotmail.com , thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ernesto1999 (talk • contribs) 18:19, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

@Ernesto1999: What specifically do you need help with? Also, I'd prefer to avoid email, so can we discuss it here? --DannyS712 (talk) 19:27, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 2

News and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (January 2019).

Hello everyone and welcome to the second issue of the new Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:

Scripts Submit your new/improved script here

User:Enterprisey's Easy BRFA

BrandonXLF: Floating side menu • Mobile View link • Global Preferences link • Green Redirects • To Top • To Bottom

Danski454: code-link • cat-next

DannyS712: 12Hour time • Draft no cat

Enterprisey: script-installer • hover-edit-section

FR30799386's copyvio-check • Abelmoschus Esculentus's Source Assess Table Generator

Galobtter's Short description helper (now in version 3) • FR30799386's mobileUndo (released from beta)

Evad37's XFDcloser (now detects the age of discussions) • DannyS712's Cat Links (now in version 3)

Enterprisey's reply-link (now compatible with Comments in Local Time)

Following a discussion, User:Ucucha/duplinks has been redirected to Evad37's fork (User:Evad37/duplinks-alt)

Flooded with them hundreds temporarily retired from Wikipedia; DannyS712 is now maintaining their scripts:

Page Mover Closure, Section Remover, and Section Mover

Open tasks

There is an ongoing discussion about promoting Galobtter's Short description helper to a gadget.
Evad37 has proposed that a pseudo-namespace be created for script modules. Find out more and discuss here

Pending requests

Anyone knows Galician? Their wikipedia has asked for some help
A request has been made for a tool to detect duplicated references
Want to help code a gadget? Lend a hand here
...and many more, all available at Wikipedia:User scripts/Requests

Miscellaneous

There was a recent village pump thread about either Enterprisey's or Equazcion's "Script Installer" tool becoming a gadget. It wasn't officially closed, and so far neither has become a gadget. Stay tuned for updates.

Lets keep up the good work! --DannyS712 (talk) 03:09, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Category harvester / placer

The prototype you've built is awesome. It provides proof of concept.

Appending a single category to the end of a page is of limited use. An editor of an outline would then need to cut and paste the list to its final resting place in the outline. Then the process would need to be repeated for every blank or missing section. A single outline could have several dozen of these. A new outline skeleton could have over a hundred. Fetching categories one-at-a-time using the prototype tool would be extremely time consuming.

But, the tool you built reveals the potential of things to come.

The method could be applied to building large outlines very rapidly.

Step one: The user builds the heading structure for a new outline.

Step two: The user places a tag (in the form of a hidden comment) in each empty section indicating the category intended to populate that section.

Step three: The user runs the FetchCats tool to process the outline. It reads the first tag, fetches the category indicated, and inserts the entire list of articles (article namespace only) from that category into that section of the outline, repeating this process for each tag.

Step four: The user smiles at a job well done. Note, that the tags are not removed, as they can be used later to update the sections.

The tool I'm interested in is the one described in Step three and four above.

Is this enough detail for you to produce the tool?

I look forward to your reply.

Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 11:41, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: I'll look into it. It would rely on 1) always picking only articles, 2) using a special syntax for the comment, so that I know that it wants the category added, and it wasn't just commented out, and 3) a lot of work from me. I'll see what I can do, but this won't be a short-term project --DannyS712 (talk) 16:12, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Cool.

A good identifier for the tag would be the name of the script. For an example of using comments as tags for a program, see any recognized content section in a portal. For example: Portal:Japan.

The comment tags it uses are:  and . That provides distinct delimiters, which are useful when replacing existing material, so you know where it begins and ends. (Which this script may do in future versions). However, since we'll be having more than one use of the program per page, the delimiters will have to be even more specific so that pairs of them aren't confused.

The script we are discussing looks like it would be a regex operation. Would you agree?

A script I worked on in which I added extensive regex looping is RedlinksRemover.js. I started with an existing script and modified it. Some of the code I still don't understand.

But, I'm in the process of picking it apart and documenting the entire script line-by-line on its talk page (workshop page).

Let me know if you come across anything interesting during your feasibility assessment.

Thank you!

And whatever you do, have fun.

— The Transhumanist 23:56, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #027, 28 Jan 2019

Portal styles

For a visually intensive portal, see Portal:Hummingbirds.

If you find any other portals that stand out, please send me the links so I can include them in the next issue. Thank you.

Conversion continues

There are about 1100 portals left in the old style, with subpages and static excerpts. As those are very labor intensive to maintain (because their maintenance is manual), all those except the ones with active maintainers (about 100) are slated for upgrade = approximately 1000. We started with 1500, and so over a quarter of them have been processed so far. That's good, but at this rate, conversion will take another 3 years. So, some automation (AWB?) is in order. We just need to keep at it, and push down on the gas pedal a bit harder.

You can find the old-style portals with an insource search of "box portal skeleton".

Flagship portals: the portals on the Main Page

Speaking of upgrades...

The following portals are listed in the header at the top of Wikipedia's Main Page, and get far more traffic than all other portals:

Of those, all but one have been revamped to an automated self-updating single-page design.

The remaining one, Portal:Mathematics has manual maintainers, and has been partially upgraded.

As these are our flagship fleet, they need to be kept in top-notch condition.

Check 'em out, and improve them if you can.

And be sure they are on your watchlist.

New portals since last issue

Keep 'em coming!

Deorphanizing the new portals

As you know, thousands of the new portals are orphans, that is, having no links to them from article space. For all practical purposes, that means they are not part of the encyclopedia yet, and readers will be unlikely to find them.

What is needed are links to these portals from the See also sections of the corresponding root articles.

Dreamy Jazz to the rescue...

Dreamy Jazz has created a bot to place the corresponding category link to the end of each portal (if it is missing), and place a link to each portal in the See also section of the corresponding root articles.

That bot, named User:Dreamy Jazz Bot, is currently in its trial period performing the above described edits!

To take a look at the edits it has made so far, see Special:Contributions/Dreamy_Jazz_Bot.

It shouldn't be long before the bot is processing the entire set of new portals.

Good news indeed.

Way to go, Dreamy Jazz!

And, that's a wrap

That's all I have to report this time around.

No doubt there will be more to tell soon.

Until then, — The Transhumanist 13:10, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #349

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

Discussions
- Open requests for adminship: Deror avi, Wildly boy

Events
- February 19th: Wikidata meetup in London - Facebook event
- Incoming: Wikidata Lab XII in São Paulo, Brazil, February 14th.

Press, articles, blog posts
- Making Wikidata visible, by Martin Poulter on Bodleian Digital Library's blog
- How to query Wikidata using R, by Envel Le Hir
- Inventory of the Cleveland Museum of Art images, by Magnus Manske

Other Noteworthy Stuff
- There is now a tool to validate mappings between Wikidata and external RDF vocabularies done with the properties equivalent property and equivalent class.
- Topic matcher, a tool to help you adding a "main topic" or "depicts" statement to items about streets, articles, painting, etc.
- Editing Wikidata - Swedish Cuisine by JanAinali on Twitch
- City-Country-Shapes visualization based on Wikidata: how many of a country's largest cities do you need to put on a map to be able to recognise the country?

Did you know?
- Newest properties:
  - General datatypes: none
  - External identifiers: ELNET ID, iTunes book ID, iTunes movie ID, Romanian Soccer player ID, Skimap ID, sports.md athlete ID, Gault et Millau ID, Theatreonline.com ID, Dizionario di Storia Treccani ID, Smarthistory ID, vodnimlyny.cz ID, World Cube Association ID, COOL species ID, CORE ID, LevskiSofia.info coach ID, LevskiSofia.info player ID, Gran Enciclopèdia de la Música ID, JORFSearch organization ID
- New property proposals to review:
  - General datatypes: journal series, has alt-text, has lyrics, day of regular release, CBFC rating, full work on commons
  - External identifiers: sport-strana.ru article ID, football.odessa.ua person ID, NMSRCP reference number, AKB48 member ID, TV Spielfilm Series ID, MCULE ID, Global Species ID, Georgian National Filmography ID, Bureau van Dijk Orbis company ID, Bureau van Dijk Orbis person ID, Musicbrainz Event ID, ManualsLib brand ID, LGD local body code, Hymnary hymnal ID, Hymnary tune ID, Hymnary instance ID, Getty Images ID, Amsterdam code
- Query examples:
- Newest WikiProjects: WikiProject Protected areas in Germany

Development
- Started development on Shape Expressions
- Termbox: show an expanded-by-default section for the user's preferred languages (phab:T211865)
- Provide visualization LUA usage on a dashboard (phab:T211768)
- Fixed issues with sense ID wrapping (phab:T210502)
- Background work to support the deployment of the next pieces for Structured Data on Commons

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!

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Updates on DYK

Hi, I have replied to the comment by this user on the DYK page. None of the points raised by these user are valid or applicable here and yet he has made such a comment on this DYK. I see that you have recused after his comments, so I would say thanks to you for your time in helping on this dyk. regards. --DBig Xrayᗙ 22:46, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

@DBigXray: No problem. Good luck with the nomination. --DannyS712 (talk) 23:00, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

@DannyS712: I would also like to thank you for taking out your time with this DYK. Thanks. Happy editing and coding. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 19:54, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

@DiplomatTesterMan: No problem. Thank you for taking the time to contribute to the Signpost. --DannyS712 (talk) 20:03, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Hi DannyS712, when you change the status of the DYK to "ask for another reviewer" are you also supposed to move the hook to some other place ? I am not familiar with this, but just wanted to check if the DYK is indeed being looked at by other potential reviewers. thanks--DBig Xrayᗙ 16:47, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
@DBigXray: I have no idea - this is the first time I've changed the status like that after approving it. Maybe ask someone more experienced? --DannyS712 (talk) 17:03, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

I think, it should be you who should ask. it on WT:DYK to review your recusal if it was technically complete or something else need to be done.--DBig Xrayᗙ 17:06, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
@DBigXray: Will do --DannyS712 (talk) 20:43, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Deleted page

Hi, I was user Timesuptim and have been spontaneously deleted as a user by you. I cannot see what I seem to have done to be removed, other than being nor very productive. I also note that I have been some mixed up with Julian Oliver, an acclaimed New Zealand media artist. So perhaps somethig strange has happened of which I was not aware. I can be contacted on tim@timesup.org (hopefully not to be spammed!) Tim — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:81EB:4100:C4EA:5764:3D8D:46C5 (talk) 07:49, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

If you're talking about this page, I asked that it be deleted because I thought that, in its then-current form, it was only being used to promote the subject. I didn't delete it, however; that was @Jimfbleak. I suggest reading through WP:NOTFORPROMOTION. If you think you can improve the page to conform to Wikipedia's standards, you might be able to get the contents emailed to you. See this page. --DannyS712 (talk) 07:58, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

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DYK for Death and funeral of Winston Churchill

On 30 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Death and funeral of Winston Churchill, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Operation Hope Not was the codename for planning Winston Churchill's funeral (procession pictured), the largest state funeral in British history? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:02, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

@Panyd: Thanks --DannyS712 (talk) 00:12, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Autoblock

@NinjaRobotPirate: please check your email. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 01:11, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

I can clear the autoblock, which is probably the easiest solution. If it comes up again, let me know. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:32, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate: I'm back at my normal IP, for the rest of the day, but if it happens again I'll email you. Just curious, if you had CUed me, would I have known/did you? --DannyS712 (talk) 02:42, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

There's no system notification if you've been checked. I didn't run a check – from what you wrote, it sounded unnecessary. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 03:12, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate: Okay. Thank you so much. I'll let you know if it happens again --DannyS712 (talk) 03:14, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

The reply-link newsletter, issue 1

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Your feedback regarding my edit

Hi,

I disagree with your statement that my edits were not neutral. The content I removed was done so b/c it's false, and therefore shouldn't be associated with the wikipage. I presume the goal is to present information that's accurate? Please restore my edits. Thank you.Eadfasfafadf (talk) 07:55, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

@Eadfasfafadf: If the actual allegations were false, then you can add that to the article along with sources. If the allegations were never actually made, and thus the claims in the article were false, you would be completely correct to undo my edit and remove the content. However, the allegations are supported by sources, and the article shouldn't exclude them just because they are negative. See this page for more. If you can demonstrate (again, with reliable source) that the content is wrong, that changes things though... --DannyS712 (talk) 08:04, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: User:Lacey Perry/Walla Walla Symphony

Hello DannyS712. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of User:Lacey Perry/Walla Walla Symphony, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Seems to be a plausible userspace draft article. Thank you. Mz7 (talk) 09:21, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Carbon price (Canada)

On 31 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Carbon price (Canada), which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Canada has enacted a cap and trade program to tax carbon emissions? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Carbon price (Canada). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:02, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

@Panyd: Thanks --DannyS712 (talk) 00:14, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

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Re: Portals update #27

@The Transhumanist: Did you mean "processing the entire set of new portals"? Also, you may want me to send these updates as mass messages, rather than posting them individually, so that you have someone else proofread them, and also because that's a faster way to send them. Just an idea --DannyS712 (talk) 16:15, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up on the typo. It's fixed, via WP:AWB.

Speaking of AWB, that's what I typically use to post the newsletter (using its "Append" feature), unless I'm feeling in a particularly manual (tabbing) mood. AWB is pretty fast, and is a "mass message" technique.

Having someone proofread the newsletter before it goes out is definitely a good idea, and I may take you up on that, when I'm not in a rush.

I noticed you are an AWB user. Nice. We have AWB tasks from time to time. How advanced are you with it? I'm looking for editors comfortable with a multi-regex approach of making a pass on a complex (undefined) search/replace problem (where you are left up to specifying the regexes yourself), where you add regexes as you find exceptions, until the set of regexes catch pretty much all conditions. Another technique is list swapping, but I've yet to confirm that anybody else uses the approach. It's where you take a list created in AWB, modify it in a sandbox (like replacing the prefix, and then stripping out the redlinks before restoring the original prefix. Good for making lists of pages with specific support.)

Again, thanks for watching my back. Keep up the good work. — The Transhumanist 23:20, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

P.S.: I look forward to your reply to the question included above. — The Transhumanist 09:55, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: I'm not advanced enough to try that, sorry --DannyS712 (talk) 16:02, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Well, now you know of 2 more tactics (the descriptions above are enough to get started), when you are ready to try them. Though the first approach assumes knowledge of regex, and is what AWB was pretty much designed for (AWB keeps a database of all your search/replace strings, including regexes, and applies all of the ones you have checked as activated on every page it processes).

If you have any questions at that time, or any time, please feel free to ask. — The Transhumanist 22:27, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: Well, until I have one of those "AWB tasks," I won't be able to try it out. --DannyS712 (talk) 22:47, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

I like your attitude. Then, let's get started!

There's this bot, JL-Bot, that inserts lists of recognized content wherever its dedicated "Project content" (subpage) template call is placed. An AWB task, involving list swapping, if you choose to accept it, is to insert a Project content call in every portal that has a corresponding WikiProject banner template for tracking pages falling within the scope of the corresponding WikiProject. The WikiProject banner templates all have the naming structure "Template:WikiProject x", where x is the subject. All portals have the naming structure "Portal:x". Therefore, we can list swap based on x...

Make a list of all portals in a sandbox. In AWB, you could use Make list on Category:All portals, then copy/paste the list, and then linkify the entries. Or you could use your cat links script.

To grab the max, I've adapted your script to FetchCat.js with a menu item on the left sidebar in the Tools menu.

Then, using wikEd, or your favorite text editor, change "Portal" to "Template:WikiProject".

It's the blue links we're interested in. So get rid of the red links. You could use AWB's Make list (Links on page (blue links only)) feature (to make a list of all the blue links and then copy/paste them back into the sandbox), or use RedlinksRemover.js.

Then, change "Template:WikiProject" back to "Portal".

Now you have a list of portals that could display a Recognized Content section that you can load into AWB.

Use AWB to insert a new section, with the following code in it, into each portal right before its Associated Wikimedia section:

{{User:JL-Bot/Project content
|template = WikiProject Environment
|content-featured-articles
|content-featured-lists
|content-good-articles
|columns = 3
|heading = 3
}}

Set AWB to skip pages that already have "User:JL-Bot/Project content" on them. AWB's preparse mode is good for processing these skips, to strip them out of the list before you get down to the nitty gritty. You can eat dinner while the preparse is running.

Not all portals use the same section formatting, and so you will need to add more regexes as you go along. So, you have skipping turned off for no changes, so that an empty diff displays. When you come to a page where no changes are made (blank), stop AWB, add a regex, then click start again). Or you could divide and conquer, going after all the like-formatted portals in separate batch runs.

If the above seems fun to you, then you are my type of editor!

As always, if you have any questions, or if your head is spinning, feel free to ping me. — The Transhumanist 00:45, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: I saw your FetchCat.js. Just wanted to let you know that my version 3 already includes always getting the maximum, which if you're a bot is more than the 500 you chose. It also uses a graphical interface, which is a lot easier. Also, could you add a few difs, so I can better understand this? I don't think I've ever edited a portal page before, and don't want to break it --DannyS712 (talk) 02:01, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Oops, I forgot Fetch only gets 500. AWB is limited to 5,000, 10,000 for bots. I'll get you some diffs soon. I'm not as familiar with JWB.js, which is what I have instead of AWB on this machine (AWB only works on Windows machines, which I don't have with me at the moment). I also forgot I've been experimenting with conditional sections, that only show up when a condition is met, meaning we may be able to include the code on all portals, rather than just matching ones. That way, if a new WikiProject is created, the corresponding portal will start showing its recognized content automatically. I'll get back to you with the code and diffs. In the meantime, you can familiarize yourself with the standard single-page portal model, which is included in {{bpsp}}, and the old-style portal, generated using {{box portal skeleton}}. The latter has been deprecated for building new portals with, but is in over 1000 existing portals, with some modifications. (They are in the process of being transformed). Will get back to you soon. — The Transhumanist 04:40, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

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@Thegooduser: Read, didn't notice the typo until I went looking for it afterwards, no problem. --DannyS712 (talk) 03:13, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Mass Message

Question: How does a Mass Message Get sent? Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 03:19, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

@Thegooduser: I paste in the subject (which acts as the edit summary & section header), the list (a link to the category or mass-message page), and the content (usually in the form of {{subst:XYZ}}, preview, and send. --DannyS712 (talk) 03:21, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Ashley Massaro

Hey DannyS712, hope all is well. I saw your edit to Ashley Massaro and wanted to ask if you knew for sure that she holds the copyrights to this. Just because it is a photo of her does not mean she can give out permission to use it. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 19:57, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

@HickoryOughtShirt?4: I assumed she held it - the commons page didn't contain any hint of impropriety. Sorry, I don't know how to check who holds the copyright. --DannyS712 (talk) DannyS712 (talk) 20:43, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

My only issue is I have found the photo online on other platforms (it is even the fifth top photo when you google her name) and I cannot prove she owns this photo. This is creating a problem because she is getting very upset on Twitter and I cannot prove she owns this photo nor do know if she understands our copyright laws. I certainly didn't before I joined Wikipedia. Her fans are uploading many copies of this photo under many different titles too. I have posted to the Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 20:48, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

@HickoryOughtShirt?4: Thanks. I don't have twitter, or I would tweet and ask her. Maybe this is a thing for OTRS? --DannyS712 (talk) 22:39, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

I don't have Twitter either but it's been dealt with [16]. Thank you for your fast and understanding responses though. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:40, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

@HickoryOughtShirt?4: Good to know. In the future, what should be done differently? Its on commons, implying that its fine, and there isn't any notice there (or wasn't at the time). Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 22:41, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Honestly, you had every right to believe this user. You were doing the right thing. She is verified on Twitter where she confirmed that she owns this photo. I am just suspicious because I've been following this situation longer so I knew that this photo was on google/other websites and had my suspicions. I really can't critique you for assuming good faith/reasonability. I guess maybe if you had looked in the page history before answering the edit request on her protected page you would have seen there was a debate about the copyright of this photo (eg. [17]) and that might have made you pause a bit if you did, but really you did the right thing. For all I know, she could own the photo and I could be wrong but I just have some reasonable doubts that she does. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:56, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

@HickoryOughtShirt?4: No problem then. Thanks for letting me know about your revert, and for communicating with me about this. --DannyS712 (talk) 22:57, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Notification bot (cf Wikipedia:Bot_requests#Discussion_on_the_spec)

Answering here as I believe it is more convenient. As you probably guessed, I dropped the thing entirely after being told it was on the community wishlist, but I can certainly show you around the bot areas (I am myself quite a newbie but I know the basics). Judging by Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/DannyS712_bot_3 you already have the bot account and the script that runs on it, the only problem is moving to Toolforge to go full auto. The steps to do so are:

Create a Toolforge account (link - you should point to the BRFA in the registration form). You will need both to create an account for yourself and a "tool" account from which the bot runs.
Access Toolforge. You need some basic knowledge of Bash and SSH to do that. mw:Help:Toolforge is your friend.
Place the source files inside the tool account directory at Toolforge. (I strongly encourage you to use some version control e.g. Git even if none else will ever touch the source.) Be careful that by default those files are readable by anyone - so if you use mw:OAuth config files or the like, you should change the permissions so that only the tool maintainers can read those. (You will probably need OAuth to run the bot on WP, but I guess you already have credentials for when you run it manually?)
Run the script at regular intervals via a Cron job. Cron is pretty much all the documentation you need (mine is a simple one-liner). You should not run anything resource-expensive directly from the Toolforge shell but instead submit it to the grid, but Cron's will be automatically edited to ensure that.

Another advantage of running on Toolforge is that you can save files within the tool account that cannot be edited by Wikipedia users (the only way to do that in-wp would be to protect the page and grant advanced permissions to the bot, but no bot ever gets granted permissions the maintainer does not have for obvious reasons).

Do ask any specific questions, I will answer to the best of my ability. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 14:29, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

@Tigraan: Thanks. I've already asked for a toolforge account, but I also need to figure out how to fix a mistake I made when making the account. I'll keep you updated. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 16:59, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

@Tigraan: So I made a toolforge account, but now it won't let me make a repository to put the code. Please help --DannyS712 (talk) 20:02, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, was on vacation... Assuming you did not figure it out in the meantime, I am not sure where you got stuck exactly.

Can you SSH to the server? (When I do, I get logged as tigraan@tools-sgebastion-07)
Do you have a role account for the bot and can you become it?
Once under the role account, can you create files?

Example removed for ease of creating an archive index, see this page's history--DannyS712 (talk) 05:48, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

If all three work, you should be able to create a git repo. I do not know how to git-push from your local machine to the tool account directly, so in practice my Git workflow is to push from the local machine to gitlab then pull from gitlab to the WMF server. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 18:06, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

@Tigraan: yeah, I haven't figured it out yet, and I don't have a lot of time this week to try. I might have to give up on this idea... on the other hand, check out module:Sandbox/DannyS712/remind for an alternative --DannyS712 (talk) 20:24, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

@Tigraan: Yeah, I'm giving up. WMF is probably going to make a (much better) extension, and I don't have the time or energy to try and tackle this. Sorry --DannyS712 (talk) 02:26, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Closing discussions: Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Indefinitely semiprotecting the refdesk

I was pleasantly surprised to notice when I clicked edit Proposal VII - Just stop the vandalism that you closed it. Would you like to collaborate on closing the main thread by adding your name here? I was planning on doing Proposal VI: A new Ask a Question page next, so if you want to handle Proposal V, I'd also appreciate that! ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-^☖ 22:52, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

@MattLongCT: I have a really busy week coming up. Given that we would both be doing {{nac}}s, it might make more sense to co-close them. Thoughts? --DannyS712 (talk) 00:21, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

DannyS712, I am okay with that. As long as we get this done tonight, I think we should be okay. ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-^☖ 00:26, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

@MattLongCT: do you want to email me when you have drafted the close? --DannyS712 (talk) 00:28, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

DannyS712, sure! That works!! :D ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-^☖ 00:30, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

@MattLongCT: Actually, i don't think I'm going to have enough time to read through the entire debate tonight, so on second thought, you may want to co-close with someone else. Sorry --DannyS712 (talk) 02:09, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

DannyS712, you know... I was thinking the exact same thing (I was not going to be able to even send a draft tonight).. Still counting the !votes. It's no problem lmao. Thank you anyways! ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-^☖ 02:27, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

@MattLongCT: well when you do have a draft, you can send it to me if you want? No time pressure... --DannyS712 (talk) 02:28, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

DannyS712, sounds good. No pressure to you as well to co-close as well. I am pretty sure I am insane for attempting this at this point. ―Matthew J. Long -Talk-^☖ 02:36, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2019).

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Guideline and policy news

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The Signpost

Hi. Thank you for your article submission. Noting that you have only been registered for 4 months and already hold numerous minor user rights, although I have no jurisdiction over what gets published, you may wish to withdraw your comments and image regarding Hat Collecting. The magazine gets enough negative comment about our reporting already and this will invite more. (FYI Bri). Regards, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 03:50, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

@Kudpung and Bri: My plan for that story was:

hat collecting... no but in all seriousness, having two more interface administrators will likely lead to an increase in the gadgets available to all users. [And then I would discuss G's plans for their short-description gadget, and E's plans for their script installer gadget]

I can see why the hat-collecting part may appear in bad taste. Would it be okay if I replaced the image but kept the start of the piece? I wanted to add some humor (and you'll note that I did not put this as the lead story, for similar reasons). Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 03:58, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

@Kudpung: I've added more to the story, though its obviously still a work-in-progress. What you you think? --DannyS712 (talk) 04:15, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

You may have missed the point of what was inferring above with regard to hat collecting. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:36, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

@Kudpung: Sorry, I'm really tired. I see what you mean, and I'll rewrite the story. Sorry --DannyS712 (talk) 16:33, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

@Kudpung:

Done --DannyS712 (talk) 21:18, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Danny, I'm on wiki-leave right now. If you get stuck, feel free to ping me next week. ☆ Bri (talk) 03:58, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, will do --DannyS712 (talk) 04:25, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #028, 04 Feb 2019

Here's a quicky status report:

Old-style portals: 1,018

Single-page portals: 4,367

Total portals: 5,385

But of course, there has been more going on than just that...

Dreamy Jazz Bot is up and running!

Dreamy Jazz Bot has been approved and is now up and running.

What it does is places missing links to orphaned portals. It places a link in the See also section of the corresponding root article, and it puts one at the top of the corresponding category page.

We have thousands of new portals that have yet to be added to the encyclopedia proper, just waiting to go live.

When they do go live, over the coming days or weeks, due to Dreamy Jazz Bot, it will be like an explosion of new portals on the scene. We should expect an increase in awareness and interest in the portals project. Perhaps even new participants.

Get ready...

Get set...

Go!

Another sockpuppet infiltrator has been discovered

User:Emoteplump, a recent contributor to the portals project, was discovered to be a sockpuppet account of an indefinitely blocked user.

When that happens, admins endeavor to eradicate everything the editor contributed. This aftermath has left a wake of destruction throughout the portals department, again.

The following portals which have been speedy deleted, are in the process of being re-created. Please feel free to help to turn these blue again:

And the corresponding talk pages:

New portals since the last issue

Keep up the great work

Until next time, — The Transhumanist 08:59, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: I couple of notes: under scores in the "New portals" section; the overlap of one of the names with the next column, and you also haven't mentioned the version 3 of my script (I think you missed it when it came out) that transitioned to a visual interface. Other than that, thanks for the update. --DannyS712 (talk) 09:12, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Those damn underscores!

Sorry 'bout the oversight on ver 3. I'll start drafting the next issue now, and add that immediately so I don't forget. Cheers, — The Transhumanist 09:30, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: Again, if you want a second set of eyes before its sent, I don't mind reviewing it and then using mass messaging. --DannyS712 (talk) 09:31, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

I prefer to send it myself. But, maybe I will start sending it to you first.

— The Transhumanist 09:39, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

@The Transhumanist: Okay. Just let me know --DannyS712 (talk) 09:43, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #350

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

Events
- Next Wikidata workshop/meetup in Paris: February 15th
- Next Wikidata meetup in Berlin: March 12th
- The conference grant proposal for WikidataCon was submitted and could use endorsements.

Press, articles, blog posts
- „Eisberg voraus!“ – Sächsische Landeskunde mit SXRM, Wikisource und Wikidata by Jens Bemme (in German)
- Linking the OLAC Video Game Vocabulary with Wikidata by Tracy Hoffmann and Peter Chan
- Adam blogged about how to update an existing Wikibase docker instance

Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Got some time? SpeedPatrolling, a tool to simplify patrolling of recent changes on Wikidata (documentation), has been announced and you can use it to help fight vandalism.
- Got some time? Match some streets and the humans they are named after.
- Got some time? Help link OpenStreetMap and Wikidata Items with the new OSM <-> Wikidata matcher.
- Wikidata Query Service now has over 7 billion triples.

Did you know?

Development
- Making progress towards first showable version of basic Shape Expression support
- Layout polishing for the mobile termbox (the box that shows labels, desctiptions and aliases) and continuing work on the "in more languages" and "all entered languages" sections in it
- Added tracking for the number of Senses and Forms to our graph for tracking the number of Items, Properties and Lexemes
- Worked more on making it easier to set up Quickstatements in other Wikibase instances
- Preventing an entity to redirect to itself (phabricator:T214919)
- Working on making Federation (reusing Wikidata's Items and Properties to make statements) work for Wikimedia Commons to get the rollout of the next stage (support for depicts statements) unstuck
- Fixed an issue with adding sitelinks from Commons (phabricator:T213975)
- Fixing Cognate support for yue Wiktionary (phabricator:T214400)

Monthly Tasks
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
- Suggested and open tasks!
- Contribute to a Showcase item.
- Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Help write the next summary!

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NPP Bot

Hi Danny. I saw your PERM request for your test account. Do you intend to discuss functionality of your bot under development with the NPP reviewer community before you apply for bot approval? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:22, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

@Barkeep49: This would not be patrolling mainspace pages. It would (at the start) be only user pages, and potentially expand to wikipedia-space pages. I explain a bit more at User talk:Sage (Wiki Ed)#Question re Patrolling. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 23:24, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Talk Dotgirlfine

Draft of Ashi Singh does have edit option I need to add some references and she won award also, but draft of Ashi Singh doesn't have edit option and remove semi protection also please. Dotgirlfine (talk) 07:08, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

@Dotgirlfine: I'm afraid I can't remove the semi protection. However, @Sir Sputnik, who protected the page (see 96230498) may be able to explain why its protected. --DannyS712 (talk) 07:11, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

@Dotgirlfine: The page has been the subject of significant misuse of multiple accounts (also called sockpuppetry), so the page has been protected so only registered editors with an account that is at least 4 days old and has at least 10 edits can edit the page. This is to discourage to the editor misusing multiple accounts from registering new ones. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:35, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

@Sir Sputnik: Thanks for the follow-up --DannyS712 (talk) 21:36, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks for closing the authority control template RfC

I greatly appreciate your responding to the administrator's noticeboard for closure for Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_148#RfC:_authority_control. I think you did a great statement of consensus and also I appreciate your closing out the request queued at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure.

Excuse me for asking for an additional favor after you have just granted a favor, but if I may request, in the future when you close a large discussion please also seek to report the close at the most concerned channel. I just tried to do that at Template_talk:Authority_control#Close_of_RfC, which is the talk page for the template in discussion.

If you miss cross reporting then I think everything is fine, but I was checking to see the response back at the template talk and was unsure whether people there even recognized the close. Thanks for doing the admin work in any case. Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:07, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

@Bluerasberry: Will do. Sorry about that. I posted a tl;dr summary of the close there. Thanks for following up. I didn't really know much about the authority control template until I read through this RfC before closing it, and it was a really interesting RfC (and topic) to close. Let me know if you have any questions about the close --DannyS712 (talk) 19:18, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

You were a neutral closer and I think you did great. No one can predict the future, but your close might be a directional marker guiding the entire future of digital media and human culture. Wikimedia projects get 500 million unique visitors a year and I can only guess 50 million of them at least see the templates. The content of many more gets influenced by how these templates direct people.

The template was established in an OCLC project in 2012. It is on a million ENWP articles and sets the policy for similar templates in all other language Wikipedias. It now is going through exchange with Wikidata, so keep up your experiments there to maintain ambient awareness.

The exciting secret about this is that Wikimedia projects are building the only interconnecting hub between all databases. OCLC has some of this and some good things that Wikipedia does not, and so do Google etc, but Wiki is the prototype and experimental bed for what everyone does.

If you are amenable to being pitched you could submit 3-5 sentences to The Signpost at the newsroom in news and notes - Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom. I wish we had journalism labor organized to interview people, summarize conversation, and track things like this because the impact is massive in its effect on research, publishing, and how people access information. I really appreciate your close, which seemed thoughtful, understanding, and fair. It literally would have taken a room of PhDs, engineers, and executives months to do what you did if we were talking about a competing website. Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:31, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

@Bluerasberry: For the signpost, I might be open to it, once the "news and notes" section is started. I'm flattered by the impact you think I may have; I was thinking along similar (though less grandiose) lines when I decided to close each of the sub-questions, to ensure that the discussion serves as a starting point for future RfCs. As for the "room of PhDs...", well that's the beauty of wikipedia: executives don't have extra authority over the PhDs and engineers, and it's the ideas that matter, not the people. --DannyS712 (talk) 19:39, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Don't undo this request removal, the character in the request was taken from https://unicode-table.com/en/0019/

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Redirects&diff=882585201&oldid=882585154 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.151.26.64 (talk) 03:21, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Okay - if you changed your mind, thats fine --DannyS712 (talk) 23:13, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

I made an account, can I get confirmed?

My former IP edits are here. --Splattereel (talk) 07:00, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Splattereel, Please make a case for yourself and request at WP:PERM--DBig Xrayᗙ 07:02, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Just 4 days and 10 edits, not so hard. ―Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk • contribs) 07:03, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

@Splattereel: I posted a comment supporting you getting the rights. If needed, I'm a new page patroller, so I can double check your redirects and help you get started! --DannyS712 (talk) 07:12, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CLIV, February 2019

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Votes by topic-banned editors

Hello, I was wondering whether votes by topic-banned editors should be struck in RfCs?[19] The editor Rajulbat was topic-banned in part due to disputes relating to the content of the RfC on the Mitch McConnell page. If this editor's vote had been struck, there would have been 4 votes against the "obstruction" language and 3 votes in favor of it - would that have mattered in terms of deciding that there is a "consensus" against the "obstruction" language or not? I note also that the topic-banned editor is the only one who bothered to write more than two sentences to argue against the content. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 22:29, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

@Snooganssnoogans: The vote wasn't struck before I closed it (and hasn't been), so I didn't take that into account. I'll note that the topic ban was only enacted 6 days after the user's !vote, so I'm inclined to take it into account. Also, you say 3 in favor - I only see 2 (you and Aquillion). Other than Trillfendi's suggestion of just the obstruction part, they are opposed to the rest; that's why I pointed out that adding just obstruction might have more support in the future. --DannyS712 (talk) 22:32, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 7, 2019)

Pondicherry is the capital and the most populous city of the Indian Union Territory of Puducherry.

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