Talk:Shaun of the Dead/Archive 1

Archive 1

Wha?

"When the film reaches the 30 minute mark Shaun and Ed finally realize the zombie problem even though Shaun did act alert through most of the movie prior to when they realize he never knows until then." I would fix this sentence up, but I have no idea what the hell it means. - mordemur 09:49, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

I think it basically means that Shaun realises about the zombies at the 30 minute point, and he didnt know about it before then even though he seemed alert enough. Retarded sentence though, and saying he was acting alert just isnt true. -- jeffthejiff (talk) 12:26, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Clearly someone has never had a hangover. Plus i dont want to seem a fool pointing out the obvious but he doesnt recognise the zombies due to their behaviour as zombies being strikingly similar to their pre zombie behaviour. -Flyberius

Actually during the movie, he does notice some strange stuff, like the man trying to eat the pigeons or the woman collapsing, but definitely not enough to think of a zombie outbreak. AllStarZ 01:22, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Song reference?

What's the song that plays for a few seconds about 8 minutes into the film, when Shaun is riding the bus? The tune caught my attention because it's also in the Scam song that goes along with the game Zombie Smashers X. It's very distinctive. --Nanodeath 23:23, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Kernkraft 400 by Zombie Nation. Most people think it to be the other way around. --MasTer of Puppets ^{Picture Service} 00:27, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

All right, thanks for the super fast response :-) --Nanodeath 07:31, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

whoooaaaa thats lot of trivia!!!!

Is that all really necesary?. a humble sugestion here would be to scrap off the useless trivia, as theres jsut too much of it here, is it all really that necesary???, how about writting useable information, as trivia can be found in IMDB's page anyways.

as far as I understand, Wikipedia is supposed to eventually cover nearly everything. Unless I misunderstands this, you should not leave out anything, just because it is written somewhere else on the internet. If so, every article would be mighty short. Lordz 08:30, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

At the same time, however, Wikipedia isn't supposed to be an indiscriminate collection of information. Personally, I don't have a problem with that much trivia (though some of it may need to be cleaned up some), but I can certainly see why some people may not like it. EVula 18:03, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree, there is way too much trivia here. i had a quick glance at it, and i noticed many useless things like "When Shaun is riding the bus, the youngster in front of him is listening to Zombie Nation". So what? We might as well just put the whole script in. Pegg/Wright are quite referency and in-jokey, but that doesnt mean we have to mention every single one of them. I dont see a list of indiscriminate trivia for Spaced... -- jeffthejiff 22:43, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

well personally the trivia rules. I looked up this page to see if I had spotted all the easter eggs within the film. Turns out I spotted more than are listed. Zombie Nation is continually comming up in the film. The first Instance of it cropping up is in the first Pub scene where it can be heard faintly in the background. I think these should be listed purely because the film makers wanted someone to notice and to be fair this is an article about a RomZomCom, so this is the sort of thing that people are going to be looking for when they search for SoTD. -Flyberius

Theres a lot more trivia listed on IMDB, here. Plus theres plenty of easter egg sites etc that can list endless reams of trivia. As i said before, if we were to list every piece of Spaced trivia for instance, it would be.. well, too long. And this article is already pretty damn long too. Maybe we can write about how and why there are references to horror films etc and link to an appropriate list on an external site, rather than adding them all into here. -- jeffthejiff 16:15, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

I'd say that the goofs section is more useless than the trivia section. It's interesting, but as an encyclopedia do we really need to point out every error the movie makes? That seems more like a job for IMDb to me. FreakmanJ 02:23, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I removed the goofs section, but someone added it back. Any reason why it should stay, anyone? IMDB is for goofs. If it does stay, everyone one of them needs sourcing. -- jeffthejiff 17:31, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Rimes

The article states the following:

It is noted on the DVD that the characters names rhyme with their fates at the end of the film:

• Barbara: Cadaver

How exactly does "Barbara" rimes with "Cadaver"? Ritchy 17:33, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

• • I'd say that's a variation due to British accents... The same could be said for Shaun and "reborn" (see my comment below). Juansmith 21:28, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

• • • No...ENGLISH accents, not BRITISH accents.My friend's from Wales and his accent wouldn't make them rhyme either.(just to note, i'm from Northern Ireland)--Centurion Ry 14:16, 13 July 2006 (UTC) UK born and proud of it.

If you pronounce it Bar-bar-er, as people from certain parts of England would (as a general rule, not rural areas such as Yorkshire or industrial areas such as Birmingham, Manchester or Newcastle, but pretty much everywhere else), then it does rhyme with Cad-av-er. The same more or less applies to Shaun and reborn. Randomwellwisher 00:46, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

But surely this was just a joke, taken to ridiculous extremes with Barbara? Giant squid 09:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually it's far more likely that Shaun's mother is called Barbara as a homage to Night of the Living Dead (female lead is called Barbara). In fact when Shaun calls his mum to tell her he's coming over to 'save' her and his step dad, Ed comes on the phone and says "We're coming to get you Barbara!" quoting the line from the opening from NOTLD (in the same accent too). The character was probably called that for the express purpose of sticking that reference in. And in a Glaswegian accent 'Barbara' sounds nothing like 'cadaver' either. Renquist 01:56, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Comics

Is it worth having a separate entry for the Shaun of the Dead comic outings? There was a one off preview drawn by Frazer Irving (and written by Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright) for 2000AD [1] and then a film adaptation by IDW Publishing [2]. (Emperor 17:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC))

Also, don't forget the four comic strips on the DVD.Vizjim 09:40, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Good points (Emperor 14:51, 6 May 2006 (UTC))

There is an entry sketched out for this on the IDW Publishing page - *Shaun of the Dead (Emperor 02:53, 9 October 2006 (UTC))

LINKY!! _> MonstaPro:Talk 12:22, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

New things to add to trivia (?)

Some possible trivia: in the movie, Shaun says, "He's not my boyfriend," about Ed, Ed hands him a beer, and Shaun says, "Thanks, babe." In Spaced, Simon Pegg's character, Tim, says "He's not my boyfriend," about Nick Frost's character, Mike, then, directly after, says, "Hi, babe," to Mike. According to Edgar Wright, Pegg, and Frost on the Shaun of the Dead commentary, this reference to Spaced was unintentional. --75.147.142.9 (talk) 18:20, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

ok so ive got 2 new ideas that maybe should be incorporated in this page, if not in the trivia:

• Coldplay members Chris Martin and John Buckland appear in the movie, talking about Zombaid, (maybe making refernece to Liveaid), talking how they got involved.
• Also, a airline-version was made, where the profanity fuck is replaced with funk. It was accually pretty fun to listen to.

so these are my thoughts, tell me wat u think paat 01:34, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Another question I have about trivia. Is this pub where they frequent, "Winchester", the same pub used in another English film "Green Street Hooligans"?

I think the trivia section is getting way too trivial. About half the stuff on there is of no real interest. Upholstered Dave 16:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Characters fates rhyming with their names

I assume this was something mentioned jokingly on the DVD... Does it really belong in this article? Besides, notwithstanding any British variations of pronunciation, Shaun could rhyme better with "gone" than "reborn". Juansmith 21:28, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I think it's worth mentioning as a point of interest, but nothing particularly important. --Joseph Q Publique 23:29, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

• It's part of the DVD's Homage-O-Meter, which lists all the references and homages in the film, as well as bits of trivia; so it's not just a throwaway joke from a commentary or anything. Besides, it is applied to every main character - 81.151.186.81 19:48, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Shaun would be pronounced something like "Shorn", so it would rhyme with "reborn".KrytenKoro 03:38, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

See #Rimes section for more info_> MonstaPro:Talk 12:23, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Cast table / Character descriptions

It seemed a bit redundant to have a cast table at one point and then a separate character description list further down the article, so I've taken the liberty of merging the two.--Joseph Q Publique 23:29, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Good choice. Also, should we remove the repetition in the script/Trivia parts? Or merge them? As they are similar to the cast table and descriptions. Possibly even Horror References. And the plot needs rewriting... I was considering watching the movie with my girlfriend, will get to that later. Mopper ^Speak! 23:31, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like good ideas all, Mooper. I'll have a look through the summary a bit later too, as I watched it not too long ago and it's still reasonably fresh. Certainly, the 'character fates' section could / should be incorporated more into the plot summary, I feel; as is it doesn't really seem necessary to me when we've got a plot summary it should be incorporated into earlier. I've also chopped down the 'repetition' bit to just a few particularly significant occurrances (the morning routine bit, etc) with a bit more contextual text; it's interesting as an analysis about how the movie is structured, but I don't really think we need to list every single line of dialogue that someone repeats over the course of the movie. I'll have a look at the other things soon, and of course anyone else's input is more than welcome :-) --Joseph Q Publique 07:50, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I've added a revamped and fairly detailed plot summary, and edited the references and trivia section to cut them down. Any comments or alterations are, of course, entirely welcome. --Joseph Q Publique 11:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Good Article nomination has failed

The Good article nomination for Shaun of the Dead/Archive 1 has failed, for the following reason:

No references, far too many gigantic lists. The plot section is also far too large - see The Truman Show for an example on how to divide a large plot section. Morgan695 23:52, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Righty-ho. With this in mind, and with a devil-may-care laugh in the face of danger, I've restructured the plot section in order to utilize subheadings, as with the example of The Truman Show listed above. For the benefit of those who don't like long plot outlines, I've also added a shorter synopsis (but I still move that we keep the longer plot outline, as The Truman Show example shows that this is not necessarily a bad thing; plus, it's very detailed and informative for the benefit of those who do appreciate longer summaries). I've kept the 'prominent devices' section as it is significant with regard to how the movie is made; rather than those unseemly lists, however, I've limited myself to a handful of significant examples and paragraph-ized the lists in order to make it more presentable (especially as the 'references' section was pretty much in paragraph format anyway, and the dot-points were by and large redundant). With the lists, there's just too much temptation to keep adding stuff, and that just gets long and unwieldy. I've also chopped away the brief character descriptions, as those are (or should be) more appropriately raised in the synopsis / plot outline section. Any comments / discussion are, as always, welcome and appreciated.--Joseph Q Publique 13:34, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

I recommend deleting the entire Plot section. The synopsis is sufficient. Tempshill 05:17, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree, the Plot section is too long. Watch the film if you need all these details.

Me too: I'm sure not everyone will enjoy having it spoiled for them!_> MonstaPro:Talk 12:25, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

speed =/= amphetamines

oh noes

Removal of synopsis

I've just reinstated the synopsis and its associated spoiler tag after its recent removal. Personally I think it enhances to the article, especially for anyone who doesn't want to wade through the fairly in-depth description of the plot. Before making major changes to the article such as removing the synopsis can we discuss it here first...?

-- Chris (blather • contribs) 09:13, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I personally reckon we should keep the two (and I'm not saying that just 'cos I wrote them both! :-)). Judging by the The Truman Show article (which I based my recent work on this page on) and other movie pages on this site that I've come across it seems to be the norm to have both the brief synopsis and the more detailed plot outline for movies; and besides, it's a reasonable compromise between those who only want a brief summary and those who want a detailed plot outline, since there was plenty of discussion / argument about this sort of thing on other pages (including this one - see above). Nevertheless, I can understand why people might think that having two summaries is redundant and, should the majority deem it so, am quite happy for it to be removed. But I do think we should discuss it first.--Joseph Q Publique 01:05, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Shaun's awful aiming

I could swear that at some point this article pointed out that Shaun's comically awful shotgun skillz were inspired by the main character in Silent Hill. I didn't just imagine this, did I? Chris Cunningham 08:53, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

As far as I remember, the main character in Silent Hill, being the mother, doesn't shoot the gun once, as the policewoman has the gun with her (and she uses it well, as i recall), until she leaves the mother to go down the elevator. At this point we find out that the gun is empty. BTW, didnt silent hill come out after Shaun of the Dead? paat 01:47, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

He is referring to the videogame

Slashes

Is it just me, or does this article make all-too-liberal use of slashes? It's really quite an informal shorthand, so I don't think it has much place in an encyclopedia article. — TheJames 12:10, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Great and Informative, Why not a Good?

I think this article is amazingly informative and shows what Wikipedia is all about. We should put this back on nomination for Good Article. Any real objections? 24.218.130.246 23:35, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Resident Evil Reference?

Aroud the end, when the troops arrive, on the trucks, there was a logo of Biohazard. This is what RE is called in Japan. Should this be added in Trivia? --ASDFGHJKL 03:33, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

It's not necessarily a RE reference, it simply suggests that the army has vehicles for dealing with natural disasters such as a zombie attack. Does the Biohazard logo actually appear in the games or films? Randomwellwisher 19:11, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Surely the Biohazard logo's used on loads of things? Just of the top of my head, it can be used for troops / agencies that frequently deal with incidents involving toxic chemicals, hazardous virus outbreaks, etc etc. It's not necessarily a reference to the game, and would be a rather oblique one if it was; it's most likely just indicating that the troops were trained in situations involving biological hazards, which the zombie outbreak would probably count as.

In any case, we should really try and keep the discussion of references and trivia down as much as possible; if we start including every single reference to everything that the movie makes the article would be twice as long as it is.--Joseph Q Publique 05:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Budget information

We should probably specify what currency the 4,000,000 budget is listed under; if it's USD, it makes the opening weekend gross all the more significant, doesn't it? FreakmanJ 02:20, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Comedy, not horror?

As the article states, its a ...comedy, so why does the tag making it part of the wikihorror project on this page? paat 01:49, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I honestly think that after the halfway point, it becomes more horror. It's a horror film with elements of romantic comedy. [no signature]

It is classed as a zombie themed romantic comedy (or a "rom zom com"). The zombie genre is a sub-genre of the horror genre, and the romantic comedy genre is a sub-genre of romance and comedy genres, and as such the film employs generic conventions from all three. Which would suggest that it would be perhaps appropriate to make it part of WikiProject Comedy (if such a project exists) as well. Randomwellwisher 13:59, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I just thought that its always been an ironic movie based on Dawn of the Dead, so it would be more of a comical movie. I would have putted zombies and romantic as sub-categories, since comedy is the only one that is present thru the whole movie paat 02:05, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, the basic plot-line is of a romantic comedy; two people with obvious chemistry have problems or obstacles in their relationship that they need to overcome. In this case, the obstacles (Shaun and Liz's friends) are removed by a zombie attack (which is where the horror element comes in). When the obstacles have been removed (bar Ed, but he is kept "alive" because he is the likeable character who provides much of the comic relief throughout the film), the two protagonists metaphorically walk off into the sunset. Comedy is used throughout to make the film light-hearted rather than emotional or scary.

We could be here for a long time arguing over which genre is more dominant, and listing generic conventions the film uses. However, I think it would be better to accept that the film is a hybrid. The site's official website address (romzom.com) pretty much confirms this. --Randomwellwisher 00:45, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Trivia and references

I've added a hidden note directing people to add any direct references that Shaun makes to other movies, T.V shows etc to the references section rather than the trivia section; it seems silly to have people adding references to the trivia section when there's a whole section of the article devoted to it. Conversely, however, I've also added a hidden note in the 'references' section asking people to discuss what references they're going to add here; the intertextuality of the movie is an important part of what makes Shaun interesting and is worth mentioning, but I don't think we really need to list or provide comment on every single reference to something that Shaun makes, especially since the movie references pretty much everything under the sun. If we try and list everything that's referenced in the movie the article will just become too large and unwieldy, and since I really want that B at the top of this page to turn into a GA at least we should probably try and cut back on this sort of thing. That's my view, anyway. :-) --Joseph Q Publique 05:14, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Extended Scenes

The bottom of the Extended Scenes section states:

The extended scenes last 13 minutes, changing the running time from 1:39 to 1:52.

This statement is self-contradictory. It suggests that the entire of the extended scenes last 13 minutes. However, parts of the extended scenes are already in the film, so the run-time would be extended by much less than 13 minutes. I don't actually own the DVD (I've just been studying the film for Film Studies AS Level and have borrowed it once), so could someone who does play through all the extended scenes and time how long they last? If the total play-time is indeed 13 minutes, then we will need to basically get a stopwatch, compare the extended scenes to their non-extended counterparts, time only the extra lines not in the main film, and adjust this statement as appropriate. --Randomwellwisher 00:29, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Plot still too long

This article failed GA because the plot was too long and nothing has changed. As other have said, the synopsis seems like it is enough and the plot section should be deleted. Gdo01 06:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Disagree The reason it failed GA was not that it was too long, but that it was messy and organised. Since then (by the looks of previous discussion on this page) the subsections have been added, which I'm sure you'll agree are better than a long unparagraphed mess. Keeping in mind what Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia says, to delete it would be pointless, but perhaps an extra article just for the plot would be feasible. Randomwellwisher 10:55, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps delete the Plot section anyway and expand the synopsys a bit. I don't think an entire new article for the plot would fly. --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 12:27, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

According to WP guidelines, the plot section is a good length, 400 words or so, but it's too blow-by-blow-ish. It's meant to be a synopsis, not a step-by-step description of what happens in the film. Taglines are not important, and if included at all should be put somewhere near the bottom of the article, NOT right after the lead section. The Plot Holes section...they're not plot holes, as far as I can tell. See plot hole. The budget should be in pounds, not dollars...there's probably some other stuff, but we can improve this article a lot. Geoff B 10:11, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Soundtrack.

Am I the only one who thinks there should be something about the soundtrack in here someplace? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.106.115.77 (talk) 17:18, 29 January 2007 (UTC).

There are some great tunes (sorry: <ahem> Choonz) on it..._> MonstaPro:Talk:Contrib. 13:59, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

The Word Zombie

Philip and Shaun seem to have an aversion to using the word Zombie throughout the movie. This is a reference to the fact that in many classic zombie movies, the word Zombie isn't used at all. Can anyone back me up on this?

Is this something you've thought up off the top of your head or is that on the DVD commentary? I agree that they use the word very little in DotD and the such, but making stuff up doesn't constitute fact. Mageslayer99 12:52, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I thought it quite cojent, actually. No references here tho..._> MonstaPro:Talk:Contrib. 13:58, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Might be worth mentioning, whenever the word "Zombie" is used, Shaun says something along the lines of: "Don't call them that!" Zulu Inuoe 05:59, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Cast list positioning

Just a minor little issue, but it seems to be bouncing back and forth, so I thought I'd raise it to be settled once and for all - exactly where should the cast list be positioned? I'd always believed that it was common practice to list who was starring in the movie before the plot summary, but there's obviously some who feel different. So where should we put it?--Joseph Q Publique 00:52, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/Style guidelines suggest plot should be before cast. Gdo01 00:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough.--Joseph Q Publique 01:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I know that's what the guideline says, but I think it's a mistake. I believe that film articles should be organized in a fairly logical way, presenting the information incrementally in a fashion that makes sense. Were this an article I was primarily working on, I'd be inclined to organize it in this order:

1. Intro

2. Background

3. Cast

4. Plot

5. References

6. Reaction

Just my 2 cents. In general, I'm happier with the cast list going before the plot.

Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk/cont) 04:02, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

"Can i get any of you cunts a drink"

Just watching the film of ITV2, the line was changed to "Can i get any of you cocks a drink", Trivia? (Id Rather Be Hated For Who I Am, Than Loved For Who I Am Not 20:20, 26 March 2007 (UTC))

"Zombie Comedy"

The Wikipage "Zombie comedy" is currently being considered for deletion. If you have an opinion on the subject please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zombie comedy. Captain Infinity 20:25, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

"Hommage" vs. "Homage"

I fully expected someone would undo my changes of "homage" to "hommage" in the article, and I don't plan to change them back, but let me at least explain that although the French word and the English word have the same meaning, if it wasn't for French film critics and Cahiers du Cinema, nobody would be speaking about "homages" in films, because the English word simply wasn't used in that way. "Homage" in English meant a ceremonial acknowledgement of a vassal to a lord, or a special honor given publicly ("We're here to do homage to this wonderful man...). The French started using it in the context of a quote or reference from one artist to another, and the usage drifted back into English. It's a slightly different meaning, which is why I prefer to use "hommage" in this context, and not "homage", but I also fully understand that some people find that too snobbish -- which is why I'm not making a change. There *was* a reason behind my alteration, however. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk/cont) 03:55, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Winchester / Minder reference?

Is there any solid conformation (or denial) anywhere that the Winchester may be a nod to the Winchester (although in that case a private drinking club) frequented by Arthur Daley in Minder? I'm sure I saw it mentioned on some site I can't even remember, but might just been someone's personal theory, and didn't want to add it if it's unsited. Jay Firestorm 01:02, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

I thought it was just The Pub near Pegg's house (iMdB says he liveth in Crouch End, Norf Landan), the link is on the article_> MonstaPro:Talk:Contrib. 12:29, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Clean up the "Cultural references" section.

First off, this area is very dense and, in my opinion, disorganized and unclear. The point of such a section, I think, is twofold:

1. it's fun to see the connections to other movies.
2. such connections show the relevance of the film and of its inspirations (giving the film a pedigree of sorts).

With that in mind, we should really agree on how to reorganize and break-up the info in that section, as well as make it easier to add to it. I think this would go a long way to making this article "Good."

Any suggestions for where to start would be great. I personally just wanted to add a bullet that mentioned the allusion to BrainDead (when Shaun must kill his mother). But there really is no seamless way to add such a detail with how it is laid out now.

My suggestion would be to have three sections:

1. A paragraph on the Romero influence and a bulleted list of such moments.
2. A paragraph (if needed) and a list of all non-Romero Zombie/Horror references.
3. A bulleted "non-Horror" list.

Thoughts?
--Crazytonyi 08:08, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Trivia Error?

Okay, this is taken from the "Cultural References" section of the article:

the music playing under the Universal logo, which is the synthesizer soundtrack to Dawn of the Dead

I don't have the movie handy, but as I recall, the music during the logo is the start of Ghost Town by The Specials. Did The Specials use the synth line from Dawn of the Dead? or is this bit of trivia just way off?

--Crazytonyi 08:14, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Nope, it's The Gonk from Dawn of the Dead. -ZFGokuSSJ1 02:48, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

No, the statement from the article is correct. The music playing over the Universal logo is the synthesizer soundtrack to Dawn of the Dead, it just fades into Ghost Town by The Specials.

-XINVADER 20:04, 12 September 2006 (GMT)

romerez reference

I didnt find this written anywhere on the internet, but int the remembering z-day montage the child who fought off his zombie family is called Ricky Rimirez —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheNewYarkov2 (talk • contribs) 05:22, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Cultural references - remove unreferenced tag?

I've added links to some cross-refs for three of the cultural references referred to in the first paragraph (this is in addition to mentioning that these facts are all mentioned on the movie DVD) - would this be enough to remove the 'unreferenced' tag, or is more needed? Nisa Tunesque 16:15, 15 November 2007 (UTC)