Talk:Gerry Hand

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It is now the least NPOV as it does what wikipedia states to do, the editorialising has been removed alltogether. Timeshift (talk) 02:37, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I disagree that it was editorialising (by Michael Brissenden or myself), but have no objection at all to its removal in the interests of balance. Adding the "straw argument" section seemed a tiny bit pointy though, I have to say.--Canley (talk) 03:14, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know it was pointy. The argument is always strawmanned away from the fact that Howard left boats floating out at sea. The resulting article mentions Labor's contribution without editorialising (and yes, Brissenden/ABC does editorialise like any other). Timeshift (talk) 03:21, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Of course they do, and I don't think this was such a case. I don't think mentioning that Hand's speech was used in such a way is a tacit endorsement of such use, nor is any editorial opinion offered. Anyway, I agree with you that the article is probably better without that bit, I suppose it's like the old "Controversy" POV-bait sections in political articles, eh? Look, I think we're on the same boat here (sorry, poor choice of words) - to be honest my inclusion of that sentence was more out of a desperate search for any material on Hand to include in the article (which appeared because it was topical at the time), rather than to put across a point-of-view of which I would personally vehemently disagree, and if it comes across that way it was certainly inadvertent. --Canley (talk) 03:40, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Post Political Life

Whatever happened to Gerry Hand after retiring from politics? I am aware he was in East Timor for a while, involved in business interests under the company "Kingsbury Capital":

“As a person who travels extensively within Australia and regularly internationally I would like to express my thanks to Ms Helen Nguyen for the high standard of travel advice and service she has provided to me over a considerable length of time. Helen’s extensive understanding regarding the needs of a person about to travel plus her attention to detail in my opinion is second to none. This applies to both domestic and international travel. Helen’s ability to seek out the best fare offer available at the same time providing the most convenient flight arrangements is a service that all travelers seek. I will continue to use Helen Nguyen as my travel agent, as will our company Kingsbury Capital Partners. I would strongly urge travelers to try the service provided by Helen and her team at Your Holidays Pty Ltd.” Yours truly, Gerry Hand Chairman" ref http://www.yourholidays.com.au/feedback

Not much to go on - any others? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiensho (talk • contribs) 10:58, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]