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Dromayor

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Fails WP:ORGCRIT. Mostly the work of two editors who appear to have a close connection with the subject, adding information that can't be found in any of the sources. The organization had a few drugstores, but their principal business was as a distribution company behind the scenes, and I don't believe that there is enough significant independent coverage to demonstrate notability. Most of the history of the company is sourced to this article in El Tiempo newspaper [1], but I became suspicious when I found two other articles on the company in the same newspaper from the same date [2] and [3]. Sure enough, they all contain the phrases "nuestro fundador" ("our founder"), "nuestros clientes" ("our clients"), "nuestro personal" ("our personnel")... so these are nothing more than a series of paid-for advertisements taken out by the company itself, and therefore not independent. The other El Tiempo source is identical in wording to one of the Portfolio sources, down to the title, and is obviously a press release from the company regarding a potential 2008 takeover which never happened (and the statement in the article that it was due to the economic crisis is not corroborated by any of the sources). The other Portfolio sources and the Dinero source only mention the company in passing regarding its sell-off in 2014. Most of the detailed information comes from the newsletter of the founder's local chamber of commerce, which apart from not being a reliable source, is simply doing its job in promoting local business and businessmen. In short, the only detail in the article comes from the company itself or the local chamber of commerce, and there is nothing more than passing mentions in independent sources. Richard3120 (talk) 21:01, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Colombia-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 21:02, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 21:02, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There appear to be plenty of references, only two from El Tiempo, and it appears to have been a significant organisation. As it is closed there are no issues about this being promotional. Not surprising that when a newspaper runs an article about a company the company takes adverts in the paper. Nor is it surprising that the local chamber of commerce is a substantial source. Rathfelder (talk) 11:02, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The newspaper didn't run an article about the company though - there are only the adverts that the company placed, and nothing else. Richard3120 (talk) 13:22, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I dont believe the article in el tiempo was a paid for ad. It was spurced from a chilean newspaper who called and interviewed the founder of dromayor. The colombian papers got it from a chilean newspaper. Although the original source was taken down. Also the chamber of commerce has a newletter and awards recognition to significant businesess. It doesnt do that for anyone. The company infact doesnt exist anymore and is an important part of the history of the farmaceutical industry of the company. A few dates and details may be off but that can be fixed. There is more sources in print but as far as i can tell wikipedia only takes online sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editelefant (talk • contribs) 14:32, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]