Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 23
January 23
[edit]Category:18th-century South African scientists
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- The result of the discussion was: dual merge to Category:18th-century scientists and Category:18th-century South African people. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:53, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's only one person in here, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 23:41, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:55, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Liu Song painters
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- The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:53, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Liu Song painters to Category:Liu Song dynasty people and Category:5th-century Chinese painters and Category:Northern and Southern dynasties painters
- Propose merging Category:Liu Song musicians to Category:Liu Song dynasty people and Category:Northern and Southern dynasties musicians and Category:5th-century Chinese musicians
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's really not enough pages to support a full category at the intersection of dynasty and occupation. Mason (talk) 23:26, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:20, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Mythological creatures
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 30#Category:Mythological creatures
Category:Humanitarians from the Russian Empire
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Philanthropists from the Russian Empire. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:55, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories. There is no "Humanitarians" category Mason (talk) 23:01, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:09, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Manually merge, the first and second article do not belong in the target. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:28, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:War novels by period
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:War novels. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:59, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:War novels by period to Category:War novels
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. There's no need for a category with one category in it. The category is already in Novels set in ancient Rome (so only a single merge is needed). Mason (talk) 22:57, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Category:War novels by war is much more relevant in this case than Category:War novels by period. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:LGBT actors with disabilities
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- The result of the discussion was: triple merge. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 00:03, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: I fail to see how this any more than a trivial intersection. Definitely seems like ab over categorization. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 21:23, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge to Category:LGBT actors and Category:Actors with disabilities and possibly triple merge to Category:LGBT people with disabilities as well but I'm not entirely sure if that is necessary. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:13, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- If not kept, it definitely needs to be merged, not deleted.. Re: LGBT people with disabilities, was relatively recently closed as no consensus. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 August 5#Category:LGBT people with disabilities. I'm neutral about the intersection. Mason (talk) 23:31, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge to Category:LGBT actors and Category:Actors with disabilities and possibly triple merge to Category:LGBT people with disabilities as well but I'm not entirely sure if that is necessary. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:13, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Triple merge per above discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:31, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Natural history of Baja California
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 30#Category:Natural history of Baja California
Category:Accessible Montreal Metro stations
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- The result of the discussion was: no consensus. NPASR. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 20:21, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: The accessibility of a metro station is a non-defining feature. User:Namiba 14:28, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per nom. There are several metro stations in the parent category Category:Accessible transportation, such as Category:Accessible New York City Subway stations. Issues related to accessible transport have been a frequent subject of disability advocacy e.g., [1], [2]. Mason (talk) 16:52, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:00, 15 January 2024 (UTC)- Oppose per Mason. Let'srun (talk) 01:20, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Accessibility of metro stations tends to change with time, as stations are made accessible. I believe that this topic would be better served by articles listing when and how accessibility was obtained for each station, even those that were from the time of their opening, with the associated efforts and politics (Accessibility of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority is an example). Also note that connecting stations are sometimes accessible for some lines but not others, making the concept of "accessible station" blurry. Place Clichy (talk) 18:01, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 19:48, 23 January 2024 (UTC)- I have written out both a !vote in support and a !vote in opposition to this proposal. Instead of vacillating between the two, I am going to take the easy way out and oppose the nomination as is and recommend a fresh nomination containing the entire tree. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 22:22, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Toledo Athletic Association football seasons
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Athletic Club football teams and seasons. Unopposed for two weeks. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:49, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Only one subject in this category. Let'srun (talk) 01:19, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 19:47, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Fictional aquatic characters
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 31#Category:Fictional aquatic characters
Category:14th-century Neo-Latin writers
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 31#Category:14th-century Neo-Latin writers
Category:Fictional toymakers and toy inventors
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 31#Category:Fictional toymakers and toy inventors
Establishments in the Kingdom of Dahomey by century
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:05, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Procedural (re)nomination following Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 15 § Category:Establishments in the Kingdom of Dahomey by century, in which there was agreement to delete Category:19th-century establishments in the Kingdom of Dahomey but a different category was nominated. See also this discussion. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 19:16, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:02, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Mason (talk) 23:32, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Disney's Strange World characters
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:43, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Consists solely of redirects, could be transformed into Category:Strange World (film) redirects to lists or something similar. (Oinkers42) (talk) 17:50, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:03, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete There is no need to make redirect-only categories. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:35, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Founding settlers of Norwalk, Connecticut
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Settlers of Norwalk, Connecticut. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:43, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Put it in line with Category:Settlers of Connecticut User:Namiba 17:14, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Rename, seems an uncontroversial case of WP:C2C. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:05, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Autobiographical museums
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:43, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEF. User:Namiba 15:21, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, only one article, that is not helpful for easy navigation. No objection to recreate the category when more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:08, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Upmerge to biographical museums, and delete. Johnbod (talk) 18:03, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- The article is already in Category:Biographical museums in Australia. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:18, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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Centuries in (outer) space
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- The result of the discussion was: Option A HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:45, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Option A
- Propose renaming Category:Space by century to Category:Outer space by century
- Propose merging Category:20th century in space to Category:20th century in outer space
- Propose renaming Category:21st century in space to Category:21st century in outer space
- Propose renaming Category:Space by decade to Category:Outer space by decade
- Propose renaming Category:1940s in space to Category:1940s in outer space
- Propose renaming Category:1950s in space to Category:1950s in outer space
- Propose renaming Category:1960s in space to Category:1960s in outer space
- Propose renaming Category:1970s in space to Category:1970s in outer space
- Propose renaming Category:1980s in space to Category:1980s in outer space
- Propose renaming Category:1990s in space to Category:1990s in outer space
- Propose renaming Category:2000s in space to Category:2000s in outer space
- Propose renaming Category:2010s in space to Category:2010s in outer space
- Propose renaming Category:2020s in space to Category:2020s in outer space
- Propose renaming Category:2030s in space to Category:2030s in outer space
- Propose renaming Category:Space by year to Category:Outer space by year
- Option B
- Propose merging Category:20th century in outer space to Category:20th century in space
- Nominator's rationale: Option A provides a less ambiguous category name and matches Category:Outer space per WP:C2D, whereas Option B is a simpler move. I don't see much of a reason to use Option B outside of editor laziness. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:45, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Option A per article title Outer space. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:12, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Option A Always best to match the article title. UnitedStatesian (talk) 00:23, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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Centuries in Plymouth Colony
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:41, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Centuries in Plymouth Colony (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Establishments in Plymouth Colony by century (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:17th-century establishments in Plymouth Colony (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:17th century in Plymouth Colony (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary layers; colony only existed during C17. Add Category:Establishments in Plymouth Colony into Category:17th-century establishments in the Thirteen Colonies. – Fayenatic London 13:34, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete and re-parent per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:13, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Events in Plymouth Colony
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. The author of the category has deleted the nominated category under WP:G7. (non-admin closure) Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:31, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Events in Plymouth Colony to Category:History of Plymouth Colony
- Nominator's rationale: Only contains Establishments. – Fayenatic London 12:57, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy delete per WP:G7 as author. I already moved the category. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:21, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Burial grounds of the African diaspora in the Americas
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Burial grounds of the African diaspora in North America. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:40, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Rename to match contents, in line with other changes away from unnecessary use of "the Americas". – Fayenatic London 12:46, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. jengod (talk) 18:50, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Rename and re-parent, all content is about North America including the Caribbean. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:22, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom Mason (talk) 23:57, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Rename as all content is in North America. Place Clichy (talk) 15:49, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:African-American cemeteries in Canada
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- The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. Discussion about the categorization of the only article in the category can take place at Talk:Black Settlement Burial Ground. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:40, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, only one member page has been identified for this intersection so far. – Fayenatic London 12:10, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge but not to African-American cemeteries. I don't see what makes this cemetery African-American since it is located in Canada and is already in Category:Black Canadian culture in New Brunswick.--User:Namiba 14:59, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom, I think the targets as nominated are correct because it concerns African-Americans from the United States. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:25, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. I believe this cemetery is historically African-American because a number of formerly enslaved people from the newly independant United States who remained loyal (Black loyalists) to the British during the Revolutionary Wars resettled in this region afterwards. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:15, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Minor league baseball coaches
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- The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:32, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging:
- Category:Bakersfield Blaze coaches to Category:Minor league baseball coaches
- Category:Brooklyn Cyclones coaches to Category:Minor league baseball coaches
- Category:Gary SouthShore RailCats coaches to Category:Minor league baseball coaches
- Category:Inland Empire 66ers coaches to Category:Minor league baseball coaches
- Category:Jamestown Expos coaches to Category:Minor league baseball coaches
- Category:Las Vegas 51s coaches to Category:Minor league baseball coaches
- Category:Long Island Ducks coaches to Category:Minor league baseball coaches
- Category:Oakland Ballers coaches to Category:Minor league baseball coaches
- Category:Rochester Red Wings coaches to Category:Minor league baseball coaches
- Category:Staten Island FerryHawks coaches to Category:Minor league baseball coaches
- Category:Staten Island Yankees coaches to Category:Minor league baseball coaches
- Category:Syracuse Chiefs coaches to Category:Minor league baseball coaches
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Most of these categories are very small and are unlikely to be heavily populated either. Additionally, coaches tend to switch between Minor league levels (Triple-A, Double-A, and so on) for better positions so one coach rarely stay with one team that long. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:23, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep all They do not only diffuse minor league baseball coaches, but also categories for the teams themselves. The proposal is malformed, but even if it weren't, diffusing is useful.
- ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 11:56, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Koavf, you make a good point but most of these categories have only one or two coaches. If you think they can be populated sufficiently I will gladly withdraw this nomination. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:29, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep all WP:SMALLCAT is deprecated and it is unclear on what basis this nomination is made. For a professional sportsperson, it is naturally defining for which teams they coached or played.--User:Namiba 14:56, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Namiba, that most of these have between one or three coaches. Again, if these categories can be further populated, I will withdraw the Cfd. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:14, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- What does the number of articles in the category have to do with it? WP:SMALLCAT no longer applies. Besides, these are mostly active teams and more coaches will be added as time passes.--User:Namiba 17:16, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Namiba, I realize that WP:SMALLCAT doesn't apply anymore but that wasn't why I nominated it. I just don't see these categories growing all that much because minor league coaches, unless they were once major leaguers OR went on to become Major league coaches or managers, tend not to have articles on them. Nevertheless, I will withdraw the nomination. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:31, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- What does the number of articles in the category have to do with it? WP:SMALLCAT no longer applies. Besides, these are mostly active teams and more coaches will be added as time passes.--User:Namiba 17:16, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
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Economic history by decade and year
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:39, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:1420s economic history
- Propose deleting Category:1470s economic history
- Propose deleting Category:1530s economic history
- Propose deleting Category:1560s economic history
- Propose deleting Category:1570s economic history
- Propose deleting Category:1475 in economics
- Propose deleting Category:1530 in economics
- Propose deleting Category:1565 in economics
- Propose deleting Category:1570 in economics
- Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer, up until 1600 the decade and year categories only consist of companies establishments subcategories. These are still contained in economic history by century categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:40, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:55, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Women from Islamabad by occupation
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 23:38, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT User:Namiba 04:23, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, redundant category layers with only one subcategory each, and no relevant merge targets. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:40, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:56, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Members of the Louisiana Board of Elementary and Secondary Education
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 20:15, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Not very helpful to only have one person in here, I think upmerging to the broader category would be more helpful. Mason (talk) 03:08, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- The Louisiana Board of Elementary and Secondary Education is not the same as a school board.--User:Namiba 04:22, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete in the spirit of WP:PERFCAT, people do not have to be categorized by every board they have been a member of. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:44, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- It is no more of a PERFCAT than any other elected office.--User:Namiba 18:37, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per Marco. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:39, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Kurdish film score composers
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 20:16, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Kurdish film score composers to Category:Kurdish composers and Category:Film score composers
- Propose merging Category:Kurdish mountain climbers to Category:Kurdish people
- Nominator's rationale: This is an extremely small category that isn't helpful for navigation. Upmerge for now (possibly for a long time as it's arguably not a defining intersection). Mason (talk) 01:44, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Kurdish mountain climbers should also be merged to Category:Kurdish sportspeople.--User:Namiba 04:25, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom and per WP:OCEGRS. Not sure about sportspeople as a merge target (not against it either). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Mojtaba Mirzadeh is already in Kurdish musicians and Iranian film score composers. Mohammad Oraz is already in Kurdish sportsmen and Iranian mountain climbers. These activities do not seem to be specific to Kurdish ethnicity per WP:EGRS/I, and both ethnicity and occupation are already covered by existing parent categories. Place Clichy (talk) 02:00, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Even better. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:35, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
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