Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Using AI to Protect NC Healthcare Systems

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Using AI to Protect NC Healthcare Systems

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An essay, presumably written by a college class. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 03:23, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Health and fitness, Technology, and North Carolina. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 03:23, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:GNG by failing test of WP:NOT. Honestly there should be a CSD category for "ill-conceived class assignment." Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:39, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dclemens1971 Or, perhaps more seriously, "blatant essay," which this would fall under.

AtSymbolEveryone: Rest assured, the university and WikiEdu staff surrounding this article have been notified about this AfD. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 03:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On New Page Review, I have seen a reasonable number of essays masquerading as articles produced for a class assignment. They've often gone unreviewed long enough that they can be PRODded without objection. Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:34, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Dclemens1971 I don't use PROD for new page patrol, seeing how I've never been able to use it in that context without the creator objecting. It's a good thing, I suppose, that you found a loophole to that. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 05:55, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Seems like WP:FORUM. Takipoint123 (talk) 03:43, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Obvious delete but this is a common issue with these college classes and I strongly believe that enrolled students should not be able to move assignments into mainspace without going through WP:AFC. Esolo5002 (talk) 03:51, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Esolo5002 Unfortunately, AfC might take too long for a college course. I suspect we don't notice most college courses that go through WikiEdu (such as this one) because they do a substantially better job...or, at least, whatever it is they do doesn't require an entire article to be deleted.

Of course, perhaps there should better controls of how college-related userspace drafts get moved into mainspace, nevertheless. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 03:56, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Going by their talk page, I feel like they might have "forgot" to complete the training modules (or just rushed through them without reading the instructions), since even the usual essay-like stuff we get from WikiEdu are much better (at least, good enough that I'd just tag and release instead of needing high explosives). I don't think actually getting reviewed and mainspaced should necessarily be a requirement for their assignment to be marked (if it is then they should remove it) but I'm not sure these ones would actually read the instructions to keep them in draft.

I understand from the talk page that the WikiEdu team does their own post-publication review process and moves things back to draft when necessary, I think a good first step would be to make that process a pre-publication process as much as possible, and ideally with some form of on-wiki note of the feedback received (this doesn't have to be the full feedback if there's anything they'd like to keep private, but some indication of what they went through would be nice). Carving out WikiEdu submissions from WP:DRAFTNO to allow individual reviewer discretion in enforcing draft/userification even when contested would probably cover the rest. Alpha3031 (t • c) 07:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Alpha3031 Unfortunately, I can anticipate a negative impact on our relationships with universities if there were a few too many drafts being moved back into draftspace over a professors/students objections. But, as you said, this student probably didn't complete the training as intended, so my objection is mainly to that is that the benefit is smaller than the (already small) risk.

I'm not sure why there's such an expectation to move things to mainspace, to be frank. I just know when there's a "move to mainspace" step, we have problems with a small minority of students. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 07:34, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. This does not appear to be an attempt to write an encyclopedia article. McYeee (talk) 03:55, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Medicine and Computing. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:10, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOTESSAY and the other reasons already provided. (Also, as a professor, I'd like to apologize for all the profs who think having students write mainspace WP articles is a good idea. For every good article generated we get dozens of pieces of awkward clutter that have to be cleaned up for years to come. Whenever I see that WikiEdu template, I shudder.) WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 10:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@WeirdNAnnoyed No need to apologize! Personally, I think it's perhaps best to have students improve existing articles. I've seen some improvement when that happens. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 15:51, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Essay, not properly using in-line citations. This could be perhaps brought back in the context of an "AI in healthcare" article, covering the entire planet, not one specific location. Delete as this doesn't seem to fit into Wiki. Oaktree b (talk) 15:00, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.