Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/S Ahmed Meeran

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The result was delete. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 22:08, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

S Ahmed Meeran

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Fails WP:GNG, WP:MUSICBIO and WP:CREATIVE. Tamil YouTuber who only seems to be famous among other Tamil YouTubers... the name is a common one so it's difficult to search for, but I can't find any indication that he has had any coverage outside of this community. Half the article appears to be about his family and school life, and the only RS in the article is about his academic achievements. Clearly autobiographical as the page was created by "S Ahmed Meeran" and it has been added to by a couple of other SPAs, presumably his friends, so I'm expecting some meatpuppetry and "keep" arguments along the lines of "he's well known among the Tamil community" and "his YouTube channel has thousands of followers", but let's see what happens. Richard3120 (talk) 16:15, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

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He is an internet celebrity in South India and is quite famous with his instagram troll videos he has added recent citations of his interview hope that should be enough for wikipedia to consider him for having a article written about him. And to answer to richard - I dont think a person has to be internationally known to be in Wikipedia, fame matters doesn't necessarily have to be international and also richard mentioned that "it has been added to by a couple of other SPAs, presumably his friends" this isn't true Ahmed shared in his social media pages that he has a wikipedia article written about him to his fans and they (including me) added known details about him. Monica yuva prasad (talk) 18:38, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

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OK Monica, so you are a fan instead of a friend. You are right, fame does not have to be international, but it does have to be verified by reliable sources. These must be independent (so Ahmed's social media like YouTube, Facebook and Instagram are not valid sources) and considered established and reliable (so this cannot include blogs). What we need to establish his notability outside of YouTube fans is an article in an Indian newspaper, for example, or an online website which is not a blog written by one person or a group of fans, but which has editorial control and journalistic staff. And of course Ahmed is going to tell his fans that he has a Wikipedia article, if he wrote it himself... Richard3120 (talk) 18:47, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Daily thanthi is a famous news paper there is citation from it which mentions about ahmed's work and Indiaglitz another famous entertaiment news channel has an interview with ahmed that is also mentioned in citation the only thing you aren't able to see here is that some citations like these are in Tamil laguage even if credible i presume you aren't able to understand this... go back to check the added citations (Only Tamil language speakers can understand). Monica yuva prasad (talk) 19:50, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

I did read the Daily Thanthi article by putting it through a translator... the article is not about Ahmed, it is about TikTok, and the only mention of Ahmed is a single quote that he gives to the newspaper, saying why he doesn't use TikTok anymore. That doesn't establish any notability for him, or give us any details about him. India Glitz is a gossip site and there's no indication of any editorial board... the video that is cited is hosted by Ahmed himself, so again, it's not really independent and it doesn't give much biographical information about him. Richard3120 (talk) 21:46, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Agreed. This seems to be a pure vanity article for self-promotion with zero neutrality. Should be deleted. Islandtopper (talk) 08:32, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 11:26, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

• Delete Per the nom. Fails WP:GNG, WP:MUSICBIO, and WP:CREATIVE. I would add that the WP:SPA creator/subject clearly has serious COI issues (including implicit financial gain) and means that this article should be swiftly uprooted so as not to reward corruption on Wikipedia. Newshunter12 (talk) 08:02, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.