Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter and Irene Ludwig Foundation

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Essentially nobody put forward an argument for keeping this article. If anyone wants this userfied, let me know. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 11:37, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Peter and Irene Ludwig Foundation

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Non-notable topic. No reliable independent references whatsoever. Dial911 (talk) 18:30, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arts-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 19:01, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 19:01, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment the German page is well-developed but no help in references as it is just the home page for the foundation; however, I found a couple different sources online talking about the death of Irene and a contract signed with the city of Cologne. [1] [2] also [3] I can't really make a determination about source quality due to language issues but this isn't the most well-fleshed out AfD. SportingFlyer (talk) 06:18, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Europe-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 03:35, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Ivecos (t) 18:20, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Music1201 ^talk 18:33, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Peter Ludwig himself was a highly notable art collector, per obits and other coverage in The New York Times [4][5][6], The Economist [7], The Guardian [8], Los Angeles Times [9][10], etc. We really ought to have an article about him, based on the existing German Wikipedia article, which could then include some of this content about the continuing activities of his and his wife's foundation, as well as mentions of his various funded museums (and links to those which already have articles in English Wikipedia). As to the current AfD, I suspect the foundation is notable, based on the content of the corresponding German article, although the sourcing in that article is not as extensive as we like to see in English Wikipedia. --Arxiloxos (talk) 21:58, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete- Can't find any information on the topic and existence of a German wikipedia article doesn't mean anything. But I do agree an article on Peter Ludwig himself would be appropriate.--Rusf10 (talk) 05:32, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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