Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Modern uses and adaptations of Little Red Riding Hood

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Suggestion to rename is a good one but I will leave it up to interested editors to decide what to do with the name. ɑʀкʏɑɴ 19:29, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Modern uses and adaptations of Little Red Riding Hood

Trivial cluttered list of many mentions, parodies (and so on) of Little Red Riding Hood. Being a popular and famous subject doesn't justify a list like this one. RobJ1981 05:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, another culturecruft list under a slightly different naming format. Realkyhick 08:05, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If this page provided sourced mentions, critical analysis, and comparisons of modern adaptions of Little Red Riding Hood (that is, contained non-list prose), then I would certainly hope we kept it. But as it stands, the article is merely a list of mentions or references in popular culture. These sorts of articles examine an entity as a cultural phenomenon, but these phenomena are not always notable. So, I suggest that we merge applicable content into Little Red Riding Hood, where it can be organized better. Outright deletion is fine if merging is not possible or redundant. Gracenotes^T § 09:20, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Little Red Riding Hood is a very notable work, and the works that it has influenced are an indispensable part of an encyclopedic treatment of it. The list is too long to merge with the main article, hence I suggest keeping it. As an analogy, Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc was even a Featured List once, and is commonly used as an example of how an "X in culture" article can be reasonably encyclopedic. I don't see anything precluding Modern uses and adaptations of Little Red Riding Hood from growing into something like that or better. --Itub 10:46, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Itub - Fosnez 12:54, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete looks like one of those "...in popular culture" articles with a slightly more sober-sounding title. As usual, the notable ones should be added to the main article. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 13:32, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment There is one difference between this topic and the average "...in popular culture" article that is nominated for deletion. In cases such as a hypothetical Chewing gum in popular culture article (not using a real example to protect the innocent ;-), one typically finds a list including every time chewing gum appeared on a movie or episode of a TV series. These lists are generally trivia. However, in Modern uses and adaptations of Little Red Riding Hood one has actual works of culture (not necessarily "popular") such as novels, stories, and comics, that are directly influenced by Little Red Riding Hood--they are based on it, parody it, revise the story, etc. I'm not saying that every single entry currently in the article fulfills these criteria, but in general they do, and those that do not can be fixed by editing, not deleting the entire article. --Itub 14:18, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, rename to Adaptations of Little Red Riding Hood and restrict similar to Adaptations of Moby-Dick and Adaptations of The Picture of Dorian Gray. This should be restricted to actual sourced adaptations of the story and should exclude "there was a character dressed in a red hood" or "one of the three dozen characters was named 'Red' and carried a hatchet." Otto4711 14:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I wish to second Fosnez's "keep per Itub". Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 18:13, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I am glad to see an increasing willingness to discuss the content and the appropriate title. I'd be glad enough to reach some sort of understanding which would eliminate the need for these increasingly unproductive discussions. What the whole series of articles need is work, not argument. DGG (talk) 00:02, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete most of these "adaptations" are based on uncited synthesis and Merge the most significant "adaptations" back into the main article Corpx 00:22, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, perhaps rename, but whatever you do don't merge The name is a little awkward, but that's because it was a title lifted straight out of a subsection of the LRRH page. Changing it might be a good idea. However, merging it back into LRRH would recreate the problem LRRH was having when this page was created (by myself): that the list of adaptations dominated the page. The page may need work, but it's far from deletable. I too agree with Itub's comments above: many (though, yes, not all) of the adaptations listed on this page are indeed noteworthy. --Jayunderscorezero 00:07, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I do agree with Otto4711 though, this page certainly should have certain elements removed, but things like Red Hot Riding Hood, The Company of Wolves and Hoodwinked most certainly deserve to be listed (unlike the dubious Fable reference). --Jayunderscorezero 23:08, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Itub. -ryand 18:51, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.