Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Land mine (drinking game)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Tiptoety ^talk 23:39, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Land mine (drinking game)

The originating article and all of the linked ones consist entirely of game guide information for various drinking games. None of these articles contain any information of an encyclopedic nature. They include either no references or references to rules websites for drinking games. All of the articles would need a fundamental rewrite to become encyclopedic in nature. The work could still be placed on a drinking rules wiki, just not wikipedia. None of the articles make any real assertions of notability. By contrast articles which I'm not nominating including: never have I ever doesn't go into rules, but has marginal notability at best because of some pop culture references; or Boat race (game) which at least has some history/etymology sections. Optigan13 (talk) 05:20, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages because of the same reason as state above WP:GAMEGUIDE

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related deletion discussions. —Optigan13 (talk) 05:33, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all. Some do not have any sources. Most of the remainder do not have any reliable sources. The handful with links to newspaper published summaries of the rules fail several nots anyway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by McWomble (talk • contribs) 08:25, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This is due to the inclusion of Asshole, which should be notable enough for anyone. 'Asshole' has many names and is a very well known climbing game. Some of the other games may also be known by other names, and they should get a simple redirect. The Steve 09:17, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all those that don't indicate any notability. Severely cut back the others (for WP:NOT a gameguide reasons). We shouldn't explain the rules of games in detail, just a short description of the kind of game, and then an extensive description of its origin, popularity, critical reception, ... No sources for these sections? Are you sure it is a notable game then? Fram (talk) 10:02, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Circle of Death (drinking game) for why this mass nomination will inevitably become a confused mess than the closing administrator will have to close as "no consensus". Also note that many of these games have been already discussed at AFD and kept, including 21 (drinking game) (AfD discussion), 7-11-doubles (AfD discussion), Beer die (AfD discussion), Horserace (drinking game) (AfD discussion), Fuck the dealer (AfD discussion), Kings (drinking game) (AfD discussion), and Ride the bus (AfD discussion). Uncle G (talk) 11:13, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. No doubt some could go, but this is an inappropriate nomination. Asshole/President for one is a very notable game, so this chainsaw approach should be rejected just because of that. 2005 (talk) 20:57, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep per Uncle G's powerful reasoning. Colonel Warden (talk) 21:45, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep there is no reason to delete an article that can be improved. The information is (mostly) factual as well. The pages need to be cleaned up, not deleted. --Liface (talk) 00:13, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Conditional Delete per Fram. Delete the ones which aren't supported by reliable sources. Majoreditor (talk) 03:18, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Some of these are notable, others not. These should be nominated separately since some of them have already survived past AfDs. -- Prod (Talk) 00:20, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, some are worthy of deletion but this heavy handed all inclusive nomination is not the way to do things. Basement12 (T.C) 05:20, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep. These are games played regularly by hundreds of thousands to millions of college students every weekend. Certainly notable games. Yes, a number of them arn't the best written articles ever, and there are a couple here that even I, a seasoned college student, have never heard of. However, this is a reckless AfD. Kings, Bullshit, Asshole, Fuck the Dealer, Pyramids, Around the World, 7-11-Doubles... all of these are very popular games. Find your way to your nearest college campus on a Saturday night and you'll easily find half of these. Keep all, and if we need to go through them one by one, then thats how it should be done, but this "buzzsaw" is nuts. Coastalsteve984 (talk) 09:20, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.