Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jonelle Layfield (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 17:38, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Jonelle Layfield

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Layfield was first nominated in a discussion back in January 2015. That is one of the longest discussions on this subject. However it shed a lot less light on this subject than would be hoped. The nominator asserted that the notability guidelines for entertainers apply, on the argument that beauty pageant winners are models, and models are covered under those guidlines. However it seems this assertion was largely built on the assumption that a winner of a state-wide Miss USA contest will recieve coverage in all the major newspapers of the state. This has actually from experience been shown to normally not be the case. Even if it was, it would be hard to move this beyond the one event. One big problem is that there are two major competing pageants, Miss USA and Miss America, with their own sets of state winners. Miss America actually seems to be the more important one historically, so there may be more arguments for state pageant winners to be notable there than with Miss USA. The sourcing here is the pageants own website, which probably cannot count as 3rd party enough. Even if it could, the NBC article seems it may well be a mass listing of all contestants. It takes the most favorable interpretation of multiple, 3rd party sources to say this article has them, and even then only two, and nothing comes close to overcoming the one event problem. John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:45, 3 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and Comment: What I am seeing are state pageant navboxes. (Alaska earlier, now Hawaii) Someone is trying to do articles on every state level pageant winner. I think there may need to be a RfC on this issue; either all in or all out unless they have additional GNG. Montanabw ^(talk) 18:34, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, not notable as a stand alone article; I can see her name being named/mentioned in the articles on the Miss Hawaii USA and Miss USA, but that is all. Otherwise, trivia. Kierzek (talk) 18:59, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hawaii-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 12:56, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment It is more like back in 2008 or so there was an attempt to do articles on every state pageant winner. Almost no effort has put into creating such articles for the last 6 or more years.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:23, 6 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not much except there is a mention here. Doesn't meet the WP:GNG.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 19:56, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. As with alll prizes, state winners are not necessarily notable . DGG ( talk ) 13:51, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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