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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Liz Read! Talk! 23:29, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I tagged this article about a musician with notability concerns in April. It is unreferenced. I have returned to it and carried out WP:BEFORE. The only secondary coverage I can find is a mention of his name in CMJ New Music Report 2003 here. I have not added this to the article as it is minimal. I don't think he meets WP:NMUSICIAN. There is no obvious redirect target. Tacyarg (talk) 19:01, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: there's a review of Thanks To Science, We've Got Love (page 6) by Nightshift (magazine), a review of Melatonin by Exclaim!, and a review of Arousal Disasters + an article by Now (newspaper). Jonathan Seet's website has a section for reviews of his music, although a lot of them are short and/or from non-reliable sources. It's also interesting that one of the reviews is by someone who goes by LMNOP, and that User:Mnlop is a single-purpose account for the Seet and Seet-related articles. toweli (talk) 19:29, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Zero WP:RS and lack of WP:SIGCOV PaulPachad (talk) 21:56, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. No notability or SIGCOV found. cyberdog958Talk 06:39, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Article is unreferenced, has been unreferenced since 2005 despite not being officially tagged as such until earlier this year, a WP:BEFORE search really didn't turn up enough to turn the tide (a couple of the sources found above by Toweli are okay but not in and of themselves enough, and I didn't find a whole lot else), and nothing stated in the article is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to pass WP:GNG on better sourcing than we've been able to find. Bearcat (talk) 20:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - looks like a BEFORE fail by not checking Proquest. There's a significant Kitchener The Record article from 2003 at ProQuest 267072703. And there's that article referenced above in Now (Now was a newspaper back then - not the current online magazine). There's also smaller reviews in major publications of various releases/events such as the Toronto Star (ProQuest 438582829, National Post ProQuest 330800197, etc. Nfitz (talk) 19:52, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One significant article does not magically vault a person over WP:GNG all by itself. GNG requires several substantial articles, not just one. Bearcat (talk) 17:41, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Which is why I noted two significant newspaper articles. Now and The Record. Nfitz (talk) 03:28, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Two articles still isn't enough to constitute a permanent WP:GNG pass all by itself either. If neither article is confirming anything about him that would constitute a notability lock, such as a Juno Award nomination, then GNG isn't satisfied on its face by just two articles. Bearcat (talk) 13:59, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: for discussion on sources recently presented
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 19:37, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.