Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blue Eyed Butcher

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. There's no debate that the crime committed by Susan Wright (murderer) is notable; the question is whether the film about the crime is independently notable. About that, there's no consensus. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:59, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Blue Eyed Butcher

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Put simply: the true crime was notable... this movie is not. No wonder you can’t find sources for it. Trillfendi (talk) 16:03, 7 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 17:07, 7 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 17:07, 7 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 17:08, 7 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 17:08, 7 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as sources have been found and added to the article so there is evidence that the article passes WP:GNG as most nationally broadcast series and films do, so it should be included in the encyclopedia IMV Atlantic306 (talk) 23:06, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

*WP:HEY Keep per film reviews added by User:Bakazaka.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:30, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

let’s see, NFILM requires reviews from nationally known film critics; I’m sure a tabloid doesn’t fit the bill. Just because a film exists doesn’t make it notable. If anything, the one sentence about it in Susan Wright’s article about it is enough. Trillfendi (talk) 12:08, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just to clarify: you're referring to culture critic David Hinckley, whose NYDN reviews have been republished in the Los Angeles Times for years, and whose firing from NYDN after 35 years of television/film reviews was covered in national media? That David Hinckley? Bakazaka (talk) 00:18, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Susan Wright (murderer). The cited sources support the notability of the subject, but WP:NOPAGE suggests that it's more beneficial to readers to take the content and sources from a likely permastub and place them in broader context in a larger article. In this case that's the article about the convicted murderer. Was AfD necessary for this operation? No, but when all you have is a hammer, etc. Bakazaka (talk) 00:28, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The notable cast is enough for it to slide over the notability bar. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:35, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 18:01, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep - based on reviews in - chron, ~~houstonpress~~houstonpress, NY Daily News, and Culturemap Houson. Note that the title is the press nickname of the killer. Suspect there may be more - hard to locate with all the movie crud and overabundance of hits (from DVD sales, movie review replication sites, etc.) - it seems it was rather poorly received. Icewhiz (talk) 11:34, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Your second link is some sports story, the fourth link isn't a review but rather a clickbait blog post based on the trailer, and the other two are already cited in the article (I know, because I put those citations there). That said, I actually think the film is notable based on the sources already cited, but since the plot of the TV movie is the same as the story of the crime, then there's no added value in a separate article on the TV movie. It's good for a well-sourced paragraph in the article on Susan Wright, though. In other words, precisely the situation that WP:NOPAGE is intended to address. Bakazaka (talk) 21:03, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed the second link - must have mis-clicked or scrolled down. A merge is a possible outcome here, I'm still weakly leaning towards keep here - I suspect there are more sources on the TV movie, and based on what I see this just barely scrapes over.Icewhiz (talk) 07:01, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.