Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Agora cyber charter school

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 01:37, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agora cyber charter school

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No indication this school is notable Travelbird (talk) 10:35, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - A simple Google News and Google News Archive search would have squelched the creation of this AfD. I'd cite WP:BEFORE but you've been around long enough that this should have been obvious. OlYeller21^Talktome 17:54, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did check those before, however to be honest I still don't quite understand what this "K12 Inc. / Agora Cyber Charter School" actually does. Is it a fully fledged online school (which seems a bit strange for a supposedly K-12 school - how to you teach Kindergarden over the internet ?? . or is it simply and online learning website which offers individual courses beyond what a normal school offers? Since the article does not offer any refs of its own to illustrate which is the case, I still feel that an AfD (which should be viewed as a discussion, not necessarily a request for deletion btw) is in order. I certainly have no objections to keeping this if it can indeed be shown that it is inherently notable. 18:31, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pennsylvania-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:22, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:22, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. Schools are generally considered to be notable if there is verifiable information provided. This article is about a elementary and high school, and the latter are primary notable. I found sources from Philadelphia Inquirer, Navy Times, Reading Eagle, Philadelphia Daily News, and the Philadelphia Public School Notebook at Google News. I also ran across a Newswire source at Google. While the article itself may not be in the best shape, the subject is certainly notable and verified. See WP:BEFORE. TBr and ley 18:36, 19 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 04:43, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Too little information was provided in the article submitted to know about the school, so I added the basic information and links to the article to indicate its nature. All genuine high schools that have a real existence are notable. I do not consider this a genuine high school, as I will explain. I do not think either the keep or delete !votes have actually examined the nature of this institution; I would myself have !voted keep had I not looked behind the article -- I wonder why such a subminimal article was submitted; presumably it was a naïve student not realizing the nature of an encyclopedia.

This is not a genuine school in the usual sense. It is a state component of a nationwide program provided by K12 (company), a privately held perofit-making education service company. This is merely the branch of it operating nominally from a particular Pennsylvania school district to provide the standard Pennsylvania curriculum to students in that region. It has no true individual existence, any more that a regional office of any other nationwide company. This is just the local unit of a private company, of no more individual importance or individuality than the local branch of a supermarket. The only thing that can be said in its favor is that it is not entirely a virtual school, but has a classroom for optional supplemental instruction. But so does a supermarket chain have a local physical presence, but that doesn't make it more significant than the local facilities for an online food ordering service. The elaborate website is the same one as for all their schools, with the local information added--just like a supermarket chain. There is and should be an article on the company. The list of their schools belongs not even there, but on their own web page, just as for a supermarket chain. Adding articles on their individual facilities is just providing them advertising--not that the article as submitted was very effective at that.

We're not a web directory. Some think that ordinary high schools are stretching the limits a little here, but most of them do have individual notability & it isn't worth sorting out the ones that don't. I have never supported it for other local institutions, even those I like the most, such as libraries, let alone those that are merely necessary, such a fire departments and sewage disposal districts and electric substations and supermarkets; the presumption is that they are not notable, and I've always asked for very clearly substantial sources not based on press releases or trivial event reports for these; it's worth sorting in the few that are actually notable. The fact that this one has the surface appearance and public funding of a genuine K-12 school is an interesting feature of 21st century American public education, but it is appropriately explained in the main article on the company. DGG ( talk ) 14:51, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom and per above. This incorrectly capitalized and poorly punctuated Article has too few sources and too little information to inform anyone looking it up of anything new to them about the school. The Mysterious El Willstro (talk) 08:41, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.