Talk:Charter of Ban Kulin

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Since User:123.208.163.55 has lately been edit-warring to change the language presented in the lead, I invite them to present the arguments in favor of their version here. This document is written in a 12th-century Shtokavian dialect, in a time when there was not yet any distinction between the various national lects of BCMS/"Serbo-Croatian" as an abstand language — nor were any of the standard varieties of the language (Bosnian, Croatian, Montenegrin, Serbian) standardized until the 19th-20th centuries, so applying them to a medieval document is entirely anachronistic and misleading. From the perspective of present-day cultural heritage, too, restricting the label to one national variety or another makes no sense: the article itself notes (with cited sources) that the charter "is regarded part of Bosnian, Serbian, and Croatian literature", so it should not be presented as if it is exclusive to any one when this is not at all the case. Vorziblix (talk) 16:11, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Every ounce of energy spent on debating how to name that language is one ounce spent too much. --Mhare (talk) 17:36, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I fully agree. (And yet here I am, having let myself get drawn into it... bleh.) Sometimes I wish we could just switch to labelling things by individual dialect (Shtokavian, Chakavian, Kajkavian, whatever), as some academic papers in linguistics do, and be done with it. Vorziblix (talk) 19:35, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]