Talk:Alfons Koziełł-Poklewski

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A fact from Alfons Koziełł-Poklewski appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 9 July 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Alfons Koziełł-Poklewski, dubbed the "vodka king of Siberia", was actually Polish?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/July. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alfons Koziell-Poklewski.

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 22:01, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Polish entrepreneur Alfons Koziell-Poklewski became one of the most successful businessmen of 19th century Siberia, known as the "vodka king of Siberia" and the "Siberian Rockefeller"? Source: https://archiwum.rp.pl/artykul/1349036-Polski-Rockefeller-za-Uralem.html and https://tygodnik.tvp.pl/55859982/syberyjski-rockefeller-polski-milioner-w-rosji
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Athanasius Safar

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 09:39, 19 June 2022 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article looks good, and has just enough sources imo (although it'd be nice to see this added to). The hook is interesting and seems to be cited in the Polish sources so AGF. BuySomeApples (talk) 04:45, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Piotrus and BuySomeApples: what cracked me up about this hook is that a polish man was christened the "vodka king of Siberia" – that'd be like if the world record for most burgers eaten in an hour was held by a Canadian. Could the hook maybe center a bit more around that? There might be a surprise factor if we don't even include that he's an entrepreneur... theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 11:31, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- ALT0a: ... that Alfons Koziell-Poklewski, dubbed the "vodka king of Siberia", was actually Polish?
- ALT0b: ... that Alfons Koziell-Poklewski, dubbed the "vodka king of Siberia", was actually a successful Polish entrepreneur?

FYI, I am fine with ALT hooks :P --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:54, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Piotrus, BuySomeApples, and Theleekycauldron: This is hilarious! This hook is like the conflicting trinity of Eastern-European stereotypes! You have the rich oligarch (Russian stereotype), the 'vodka king' (insert drunk Russian joke here), and to break the perfect Russian stereotype you make him Polish. Ha! That would be like if the richest businessman in the world was a random guy in Asia selling ice cream. That sounds like a headline from the Onion that would go somewhere along the lines of "POLISH BUSINESSMAN CHRISTENED "VODKA KING OF SIBERIA" FOUND DEAD IN RUSSIA, NEAR BEARS WHO SEEMED TO LIKE HIS VODKA A BIT TOO MUCH". To be honest, I would like this hook, if possible, to be placed on April Fools Day because this hook is too perfect for April Fool's Day. (here's the hooks now, sorry I cannot help myself from laughing) Spodle^Talk 00:27, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

- ALT1: ... that Alfons Koziell-Poklewski, a Polish entrepreneur, was dubbed the "vodka king of Siberia" due to the quality of his products?
- ALT1a: ... that Alfons Koziell-Poklewski, a Polish entrepreneur, who was dubbed the "vodka king of Siberia", helped Poles who were exiled to Russia?

I like all of these hooks, especially ALT0a for the reasons mentioned by @Theleekycauldron and Spodle:. Hopefully this can run on April Fools! BuySomeApples (talk) 21:21, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]