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American impact

Is this really relevant? It seems like something not really needed. That and even if it was relevant why this topic over the uks impact in europe? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.201.175.113 (talk) 18:10, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Additions

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Hey dude. On the '2000s in British Music' page could you please put in a table

  • Top 100 best selling singles of the noughties
  • top whatever best selling albums
  • Fastest Selling singles
  • Fastest Selling Albums
  • Best Selling Single Per year
  • Best selling artist of the noughties

etc all that good information please as it's lacking a lot and bits of it are everywhere and it would be nice to have it in one place —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.46.240 (talk) 20:06, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This series of articles are about music produced in the UK, not music consumed in the UK. Charts tend to say a lot more about US music than British music.--SabreBD (talk) 21:10, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The order of the genres

There is no reason to put the less popular British music genres at the top. We have to present the music genres of each decade according to their popularity worldwide (In the same way we have done here for example). It makes absolutely no sense to put the more obscure genres at the top (For example - Sabrebd put the "2 Tone and Reggae" section at the top of the Music of the United Kingdom (1980s) article. Please explain to us why we should order it differently. TheCuriousGnome (talk) 17:46, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rather than reply five times I have put one answer here.--SabreBD (talk) 01:00, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is Nu-folk considered a style of Folk Rock ?

If so it should be in the Rock section. TheCuriousGnome (talk) 13:57, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Its not an easy call, but most of it probably falls into the folk side of things.--SabreBD (talk) 16:12, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Decline of indie rock?

Not an indie rock fan so no expert here, but I'm sure something should be made of it? Circa 2003-2007 indie rock kinda peaked, most major indie rock bands albums that have followed since then have performed significantly less well than the albums the same bands put out before. And I don't just mean sales, which I know are in decline in all genres, I mean singles and albums are charting less well too.

Examples (a few might not be British, but are part of that "scene" in my mind, which is predominantly British): The Kooks, Kaiser Chiefs, The Feeling, Arctic Monkeys, Razorlight, "ex-Libertines members post-Libertines projects" (given how much they inspired the indie movement, the fact none of them have gone anywhere but down in popularity other than a brief blip at the height of this movement is part of this I feel sure), Jet, The View, Pidgeon Detectives, The Fratellis....the whole movement is vastly less popular in the UK now. I believe (but am unsure) that it continues to be popular in Europe which is helping these bands a great deal (The Elfoid (talk) 01:34, 21 May 2010 (UTC))[reply]

I am sure you are right, but it may be hard to find the necessary sources to back this up as decline rarely excites much scholarly comment. If anyone can suggest a reliable source we should add something.--SabreBD (talk) 07:27, 21 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The mid-Noughties wave of successful indie rock bands was a much smaller boom period than, say, Britpop and took place against the background of Nu Metal in its pomp. Since then in the 2010s indie has largely dropped to third place behind the (by now not-so-Nu) Metal scene and a thriving Punk scene. Much of this can be attributed towards an essentially profit-making business model for alternative rock which is by now in a state of managed decline. The Punk scene however is supported largely by volunteers whose chief motives are good times and watching talent flourish and who are thus not inclined to divest financially during lean periods. Punk promoters also maintain followings of (largely older) music fans willing to turn up to watch any bands rather than follow specific acts. Also whereas UK Punk has undergone a boom in young female acts in the 2010s, what remains of the indie scene still cleaves to the "four young lads" ideal.86.128.7.144 (talk) 22:31, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jessie J/Ellie Goulding/Tinie tempah

don't these three deserve a mention? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.236.103.76 (talk) 00:33, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Probably. Why not find some reliable sources and add them?--SabreBD (talk) 00:35, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Stop trying to airbrush Amy Winehouse from history

It was Amy Winehouse who paved the way for British artists to have international success not Adele. That bit that says a group of singer songwriters led by Adele have enjoyed international success is just wrong it implies that Adele was the first one and that Amy never had any. Adele herself has even said that Amy paved the way for her and all others like her and made everybody all over the world excited about British music again on her website in her beautiful tribute to Amy. Jessie J said the same thing, as did Lady Gaga who was also directly inspired by Amy Winehouse (clearly showing she had big success if the biggest American artist was inspired by her) many high profile critics have also said it was Amy " Amy opened the door and Adele and Duffy came through".

Now I love Adele in fact I am probably a bigger fan of Adele than I am of Amy TBH, I certainly listen to Adele more, so please don't think I am a hater, nothing could be further from the truth. I just don't like the way people are trying to pretend Amy never existed and Adele wouldn't want that at all considering she thinks Amy paved the way for her and brings that up in every interview, clearly the last thing she would want is for Amy's role in paving the way for her and others like her to be airbrushed out from history. All the other British female artists that are making it big abroad right now such as Jessie J and Rebecca Ferguson, also credit Amy with paving the way for them too.

Also don't forget Susan Boyle either who had best selling albums before the release of 21 and Duffy who enjoyed success round about the same time as Adele was beginning to make it big. It doesn't matter how much Adele has sold remember all that matters is who came first and Amy came first though that's not to say Adele will not go on to inspire people for generations to come, but still Amy inspired her and therefore Amy was the first one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.109.112 (talk) 22:39, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have not seen any sources for Boyle but there are direct quotes from sources knowledgeable about the music industry noting Winehouse's influence in the article. In my personal opinion can't totally forget Joss Stone who had retro soul hits in America before Winehouse or Simon Cowell. But Winehouse was the tipping point. This is a summery article and by nature can't get into details or intricacies. Edkollin (talk) 20:34, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why the focus on success in the US? (Late 2000s-early 2010s)

It's odd that most of the 'Late 2000s-early 2010s' section focuses entirely on artists charting in the US. This is an article about British music, yet the whole section barely references the UK charts, nor those of any other country in Europe, or elsewhere. Just the American Billboard 100. I get that the late 2000s marked a resurgent interest in British music amongst Americans worthy of note, but measuring the success of a country's musical output solely by its position on another country's chart seems bizarre to me. Imagine if every page about an American band framed its success based on its UK chart hits? 80.192.27.175 (talk) 00:39, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Split article into 2000s and 2010s?

Now that we've reached the end of the decade and with the Twenties coming up soon, isn't it time to start treating the Noughties and Tenties as the quite distinctive periods that they are by now? 86.128.7.144 (talk) 22:35, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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