Talk:Toyota Prius

Prius C

"Initial demand ... and the Aqua/Prius c is expected to be in short supply until Toyota increases production capacity."

The sales numbers of Aqua in Japan (Japan best selling vehicles in Jan, Feb, Mar 2012) say Toyota is increaing production capacity.

Prius Oil Consumption Design Defect

If you google the terms "prius oil consumption", large numbers of complaints will display regarding the 3rd generation Prius. As the car reaches about 80 to 110 kmiles, users report greatly increased oil consumption, often exceeding 1 quart per 1000 miles. When this starts, it is common for the engine to empty its own crankcase before the next oil change. If the user does not notice the low oil pressure warning on the display, he may loose the engine entirely. Once discovered, users need to frequently top off the oil to prevent running out the engine oil.

It might be suggested that there is no longer a need for regular oil changes as the oil does not remain in the engine long enough to need replacement.

Users report the oil is being burned. Typically there are no drippings. Heavy black soot will often be found in the exhaust pipe. Thus, the "green" aspect that attracted the buyers is reduced by the large amounts of oil being burned and emitted.

In the USA, the problem started with the 2010 year which shows over 100 complaints at carcomplaints.com. The 2011 and later years are also starting to collect complaints as they age to the same mileage levels.

Toyota has done nothing to fix this for Prius owners.

Perhaps this should be written up in third generation Prius section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.175.227.102 (talk) 23:50, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Have your google searches turned up any published articles from reliable sources that describe this defect? -- Fyrael (talk) 06:23, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

There are some youtube videos of people disassembling engines and finding clogged oil ports in the pistons. It also appears to be part of a greater problem such as the service campaign here for other toyota engines https://www.toyoheadquarters.com/threads/excessive-oil-consumption-on-2az-fe-engine-lsc-ze7.362/ Here, Toyota extended coverage as part of a class action settlement. Prius was left out of the settlement.

Toyota has now published a Prius service bulletins at http://www.revbase.com/BBBMotor/TSb/DownloadPdf?id=197077 and http://www.revbase.com/BBBMotor/TSb/DownloadPdf?id=197076

So, they know of the problem. But, since it happens after the 60000 mile engine warranty they apparently do not believe they have any obligation to the owners. (At least until another court case like the one cooking up here https://chimicles.com/toyota-prius-oil-burning-class-action-investigation/ ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.175.227.102 (talk) 14:34, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

I propose we split XW50 Prius into its own article.

Hello all,

Since the current Prius has been on sale for about three years now, there is a wealth of information that is sufficient enough (and can comply with quality guidelines) for a split. What do you think? I can't do it alone, though! Kaio mh (talk) 01:14, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Excellent idea. I will help out too.  Stepho  talk  09:31, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

I've done a brute force shift of the entire section to Toyota Prius (XW50), leaving just a summary in the old place and a link. Of course, others can feel free to make further changes. The third gen "summary" could use a lot of pruning too - all the details belong in Toyota Prius (XW30).  Stepho  talk  22:34, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks EurovisionNim, it's much neater now.  Stepho  talk  10:37, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you guys! It looks so much better now. Sorry this is so late. Kaio mh (talk) 06:32, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

You're welcome.  Stepho  talk  10:10, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

120V outlet option for Prius and Plug-in in America?

I came across this old article (2012). It says Toyota offered an option that made your Prius or Prius Plug-In, in effect, a mobile gasoline emergency generator! https://www.greenoptimistic.com/toyota-prius-is-now-an-emergency-backup-generator-20121025

How long did they offer this option? On what models? Did they offer it on the Prius V? Is it still offered in America?

IMO, there should be a mention of this somewhere in the Prius article. Phantom in ca (talk) 05:39, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

American vs British English

LucasA04 contends that the article used primarily American English instead of British English and he therefore changed the spelling of one instance of "fibres" to "fibers" and changed the infobox to use American spelling for curb/kerb weight (although that doesn't actually show up in this instance). Looking for common British/American spelling differences, I see 4 instances of "litre" and none of "liter", 1 instance of "metre" and none of "meter" and none of "colour" or "color". This looks more British than American to me. Did I miss some something?  Stepho  talk  01:01, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

@Stepho-wrs: Hm, I see, I will self-revert, but before I do that I want to tell you that you do not have to be so hurt about someone undoing your edit. I would have liked for you to talk to me on my talk page but you put me up on the chopping block by putting it here. I did not change the userbox in any way, you in fact changed the template parameter to UK. I was only undoing your edit, nothing more. LucasA04 (talk) 01:20, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Not hurt. If I was hurt then I might call you an arsehole, comment on your country and enlighten you on your maternal ancestry. All of which, of course, would reflect more on me than on you. Instead, I merely presented the dry facts and even asked if it was me that had made a mistake.

I have found it far more useful to put all discussions about an article on the article's own talk page. That allows other people interested in that article to comment. Just in case there are aspects that both of us missed or aspects that could be usefully applied to other articles. All done respectfully and assuming good faith all 'round. It also avoids the feeling that others are making secret agreements and then springing them on us without warning.

Anyway, I'm glad we sorted it out amicably and thank you for the self-revert.  Stepho  talk  00:23, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Stepho-wrs, Amicably? I would beg to differ but let's just call it that. I was only trying to improve the article, not to try to make a point or go against you. I actually like some of your words that you guys use, it sounds all proper and former and adds flavour(hehe) to my all-American vocabulary. LucasA04 (talk) 03:19, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

No problem. I intended no nastiness to you and assumed no nastiness from you. My apologies it it came across wrong. We're all here to improve things.  Stepho  talk  10:08, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Weird Preview Box

Hi all, I not an experienced Wikipedia editor so not sure how to fix this, but the floating preview box for the Prius page has been hijacked and appears to contain spam (not the main page; this is the little box that comes up when you hover over the hyperlink from another wiki page). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.83.145.57 (talk) 11:52, 5 May 2020 (UTC)