Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Van Halen IV (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. Michig (talk) 08:51, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Van Halen IV

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Fails WP:NALBUM, on account of the album not actually existing and the title simply being a placeholder rather than a confirmed name. A few demos were recorded, and that was it, basically. I understand why the article creator wanted to make something of these recordings, and they absolutely should be mentioned somewhere in the band's history, but there is so little verifiable information (mostly divulged by then-singer Gary Cherone during this interview with Rolling Stone [1] and in another one with Ultimate Classic Rock [2]) that it would only take two or three lines and would be better to just include it in Van Halen#1996–1999: Gary Cherone era, where it is already mentioned. Seeing as the album was never given an official title, I don't see how a redirect would be useful here: readers could just as well be looking for "1999 Van Halen demos" or "second Van Halen album with Gary Cherone". Richard3120 (talk) 04:36, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 04:39, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 04:39, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per the nominator's statements. A redirect would not be useful in this situation as this is not even a confirmed title for the album/collection of songs. Aoba47 (talk) 19:00, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - The nominator is correct. Even if sessions got far enough along to indicate that a new album was coming, the project ended before anything was confirmed, including the title. In short, the album does not exist, and the doomed sessions can be (and are) mentioned in the band's biography. Also note that the Album Navigator fields for the albums that Van Halen really did release in 1998 and 2004 are pointing to this article, and will have to be fixed if/when this one is deleted. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 20:31, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Classic WP:HAMMER. Bearian (talk) 18:38, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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