Talk:Right to keep and bear arms

Self Defence sprays

I wrote that A person can legally take martial arts classes in the UK to defend themselves as well as carrying self defence sprays such as Farbgel and StoppaRed UV sprays. I put this in the article because I feel that it belongs there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.82.16.223 (talk • contribs) 06:15, 29 June 2014‎

Right to keep and WHAT?

The word "bear" has a lot of meanings, but none of them fits the context. Assuming that it means "to carry somebody/something, especially while moving" we have a problem because our article is only about possessing, and says nothing about carrying. I thought that I knew this word very well... until now. The explanation in the article: "In Old English, beran (past tense bær) means to bear, bring, bring forth, or produce; to endure or sustain; or to wear." is useless in the current context, at least to me.
Here is what we can do with arms:

1. keep    Clear, but we don't know if we can also carry them.
2. carry    Clear. It implies that we are allowed to keep them too, at least temporarily.
3. keep and carry    Clear.
4. bear    Unclear.
5. keep and bear    Unclear. Keep and what?

Any ideas? Vikom ^talk 23:44, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Why not research the topic and add it? TFD (talk) 01:38, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

This article needs to be renamed as "Constitutional right to keep and bear arms" to avoid it being just a repeat of a laundry list of world gun laws

Here we go again. Right to keep and bear arms has been co-opted by Cimmerian Praetor in his new guise as Abatementyogin and made into yet another copy of Overview of gun laws by nation. The point of the article is what countries have a constitutional right to keep and bear arms, not just to repeat a review of gun laws by nation. Is anyone interested in making sure this article is about constitutional right to keep and bear arms? The current state of the article is just stupid duplication of Overview of gun laws by nation. 99.236.244.35 (talk)

Haiti and Austria

I think that Haiti should be added into the Americas section because they're constitution guarantees the right to keep arms for armed self defense in their household while besting arms in public is a privledge just like Mexico. Austria should be added in the Europe section as they have the right to bear arms as guranteed by law. GermanicSoutherner15 (talk) 20:27, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

UK

"Since the passing of gun control laws, the UK has one of the lowest firearm death rates among developed nations, with 0.2 deaths per 100,000, compared to 10.2 in the U.S."

This sentence implies that the gun control laws are the reason firearm death rates are low in UK. And since US is known for its high firearm ownership, this also implies that high firearm death rates in US are caused by high firearm ownership. The source cited does not support these implications. I do not have the historical firearm death rates data, but I do have the historical intentional homicide rate data. And this data shows that US has always had much higher homicide rates than UK (England and Wales to be precise), even when both of these countries had absolutely no gun control laws. Additionally the homicide rate in UK is very steady, most of the time it stays in the 0.8-1.2 range and there is no visible decrease when further restrictions on gun ownership are placed. (For charts visualizing this, search for "England historical homicide rates" in Google Images.) Therefore I consider this sentence misleading and will remove it. If you have the historical firearm death data that supports these implications, feel free to revert this edit. 192.198.151.43 (talk) 13:28, 17 July 2019 (UTC)