Talk:2019 Sri Lanka Easter bombings

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Archiving

Please read this quickly, before it's archived! I started a new section; about an hour and a half later it's archived! What is the point of that? Is there a problem with auto-archiving or something? Silas Stoat (talk) 22:09, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Aye, a bit sad to see so many dusty old posts from April 23 on April 23 (EST, anyway). I wonder how many of those people actually expected feedback. Too late for them, I suppose, but the future could last a little longer. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:16, April 24, 2019 (UTC)

Not a problem with archiving but a human set setting [1] although I don't know why. The archiving time was set to 1 hour. This is an active page, but IMO it's way way excessive. I've reduced it to 24 hours. [2] @WWGB: was this a mistake or is there some reason why you feel this page needs a 1 hour archive time? I appreciate a lot of manual archiving is going on but 1 hour seems excessive to me. Note that the archive template uses days per Template:Archives if no unit is specified, I've changed it to hours to reduce any possible confusion. (It's just what is displayed and otherwise means nothing.) User:ClueBot III uses hours: This parameter must be set to the number of hours a thread can go without a reply before it should be archived. (emphasis not mine). Don't confuse ClueBot with User:MiszaBot/config which AFAIK needs a unit. Nil Einne (talk) 05:16, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

I've also added back any sections archived by Cluebot in their latest run which were IMO prematurely archived. [3] I did not add back 3 sections as they had comments like answered or added at the end, so I assumed the issue had been dealt with. I also didn't bother to check precisely where each thread belongs, so it's possible they're slightly out of order. (I added them all back to one place, except for the last one which I re-ordered so it wouldn't appear before another numbered section with the same subject.) This means that any references to the section above/below and other such comments may be out of place or confusing. This was the first time any bot had archived so any other archivals are editor selector. Nil Einne (talk) 05:33, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

P.S. I should clarify I didn't check the time stamps on each thread. It's possible some of them would have been archived even with the 24 hour limit. The page currently only has 15 threads. I didn't check the size but I only added back about 7k bytes. It will grow before the next archival run assuming no manual archiving but IMO it's not a big deal or significantly limiting accessibility. We should remember on very active pages it's always a balance between archiving so much that issues are missed or get discussed multiple times, and archiving so little it's difficult for people to use them page (both technically and because it's unwieldy). Nil Einne (talk) 05:40, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

P.P.S. Since ClueBot uses revision histories and not time stamps, I'm not entirely sure how it handles threads added back. I assume at worse these threads will require manual archiving, more likely maybe they'll be delayed 24 hours from when I added them back or will just be treated like any other thread. Nil Einne (talk) 05:44, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

@Nil Einne:Many thanks for looking at it. Silas Stoat (talk) 08:02, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Failed Defusal

Is there any more information to be given as to if anyone was injured in the failed defusal attempt? It seems Inconcise.

(talk) 13:58, April 24, 2019 (UTC)

Just created Savoy Cinema, Colombo after the bombings

On 24 April 2019, a suspicious motorbike was exploded by Sri Lankan police officials under control with no damages and no casualties were reported which was found near the Savoy Theatre during the raids. The particular suspected vehicle was found during the raids across the country following the Easter bombings on 21 April 2019 which killed nearly 300 people. It may not be needed to add up to the article but it is the latest information available. Abishe (talk) 08:54, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

References

Perpetrators<->Victims

Are the perpetrators in the victims list? Should perpetrators be in the victims list? Thoughts? Comments?Manabimasu (talk) 14:38, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

You can't be serious 108.39.199.14 (talk) 22:57, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

The definition of "Victim" is "a person harmed, injured, or killed as a result of a crime, accident, or other event or action." It does not provide a reference as to whether if you were the cause of the incident to exclude from being defined as a "Victim". Certainly, the group that perpetrators belonging to would consider them to be "victims". The judicial system will have a different definition of victim, however keeping in line with WP:NPOV policy, to avoid confusion with the reader I think that they could be included as part victims separately specifying that they were the perpetrators. Although I do think using the term "deaths" rather than victims would be more appropriate and concise. --Eng. M.Bandara-Talk 00:18, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Casualties chart accuracy?

What does Uk/US casualties even mean in the chart? Where are the American casualties? Is there not more than 2 dead “US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said in a statement that several US citizens were among those killed.”Manabimasu (talk) 23:17, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Uk/US casualties means dual nationals, it may be appropriate to add a note under the table to define what is meant by it. If there are more than 2, add it with WP:RS source. --Eng. M.Bandara-Talk 00:48, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

References

Protection level

Why isn't this article semi protected but the Christchurch mosque shootings article protected? Religious bias on Wikipedia?

97.90.47.253 (talk) 04:22, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

We don't protect articles as a political or religious statement, but as a response to disruptive editing only. El_C 04:24, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Christchurch mosque shootings

How could these bombings be perceived as revenge for the Christchurch massacre, which had nothing to do with Christianity or hotel guests/staff? Jim Michael (talk) 06:55, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

infobox motive - speculation/conjecture

per WP:INFOBOX the purpose of infoboxes is to summarise non-contentious and non-controversial information that has a clear meaning - not to speculate.

The "Motive" section of an infobox is not meant for speculation. The phrase "Retaliation for Christchurch mosque shootings" is dubious, given that the event was planned as far back as January - this is covered in the lead section's last paragraph - see the nzherald reference https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12224350 "Sri Lanka: Nearly 300 dead, Kiwi security expert says attacks unlikely to be linked to Christchurch"