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African American R&B Band

In the first sentence, is it relevant to say they are an African American R&B Band? It doesn't seem to me to have any relevance to their music. I'm guessing the author intended to say they are an American R&B band, and got slightly confused with this (the country of origin) and the race of the members. If they were, say, based in China, I think you would say they were a Chinese R&B band, based on their location.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Slogan621 (talk • contribs) 04:58, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And Rain

A source mentions the name as having been Earth, Wind, Fire, and Rain for about a year or so. 04:12, 13 July 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.5.157.39 (talk)

Cleanup

This article needs cleanup. Almost all the links that lead to album names go to the meaning of the actual word, not disc information. The author of this article did a poor job of this. --WindWaker68 00:13, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

Love Songs album

I believe the entry for a 2004 album entitled Love Songs actually refers to a 2005 Chicago album of the same name; that album includes two tracks recorded on their joint 2004 tour. Before I make that correction, can anyone else confirm? Engineer Bob 09:17, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Earth, Wind and Fire also has a CD called "Love Songs". The Love Songs tag appears to be a line of Greatest Hits packages release by Sony/Columbia.

Thanks for the info; I did some further checking and found the EW&F album. (BTW, the Chicago Love Songs album is on Rhino Records, not Sony/Columbia.) Engineer Bob 00:48, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Discography format

Excellent work by Xinger on the singles list. Would be nice to see the albums converted to a similar format for consistency. Engineer Bob 16:36, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dance Dance Dance

How come I can't find seem to this track on any of their albums? From what I've heard, it seems like a breath of fresh air from hearing all their other tracks for the 15 millionth time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.76.32.52 (talk) 23:27, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unprofessional

This article is written in a decidedly nonacademic style. Certain sections need to be rewritten. Bro2baseball (talk) 02:37, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maintenance tags

Okay, who keeps removing the maintenance tags? Two sentences is way too short of an intro, and almost everything on the page is red linked. It clearly needs a major overhaul. Removing the tags doesn't fix the problem. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 14:47, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

seventh?

in the intro paragraph it says something along the lines of "they're seventh best selling american group" but if you go to the list they're not on there anywhere. the sources listed didn't seem to help much either. DPM 04:28, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unless I'm mis-counting, The Four Seasons are the seventh best-selling American band of all time, based on the link. And the two references, the two biography pages, make zero reference to EWF being on the list either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.233.184 (talk) 04:28, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band

Earth, Wind & Fire made an appearance in the movie, but I can't find a reference to it anywhere. Is it in the article yet? 68.204.47.18 (talk) 23:12, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shane Saxton?

He was listed in the current members section until I updated the section to match the current lineup. I also sorted out the former members section (based on Wiki's guidelines for infoboxes), but haven't found any information on Shane Saxton. I can't find any sources. Was he actually a member of the band at any point? Burbridge92 (talk) 22:21, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What?

Why is some random band the main search result for "Earth, wind, and fire" instead of the elements? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.141.56.32 (talk) 19:07, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Elements are a group of pure substances with a periodic table to group them by. They start with Hydrogen. The CLASSICAL Elements to which I believe you are referring to usually include Earth, Fire, Air and Water. "Wind" is referred to in some cultures but most of them refer to AIR as one of FOUR elements. I have not been able to find any ancient culture who used a system of classical elements that did not use WATER. Therefore I suggest that the use of the worlds "Earth Wind And Fire" are ideally appropriated on a Band who, far from being random, have made their musical presence felt by millions of people for nearly half a century, being genre definers, still influential and active now. I feel your question was pretty high on the snottiness scale. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.156.156.146 (talk) 18:35, 29 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Needs a more objective tone

This entry has loads of detailed information, but it needs to be referenced more thoroughly. Also, it reads too much like it was written by EWF fans. 193.38.100.250 (talk) 15:30, 7 May 2013 (UTC)DP[reply]

Awards and Recognitions

While awards and recognitions of this band's achievements are encyclopedic and verifiable, this article is awash with references to these awards. This makes the article wearisome to read and grossly over emphasises the actual importance of such awards. Chart positions are good to include for, say, a "first top ten" or a "first number one" - maybe a First ever "grammy" - these will certainly help the article. However I feel that a complete list of the bands awards should be a separate paragraph under the main body of the text - not constantly referred to in the way this article goes on about the third track of some album winning third best performance by a triangle player.....

YOU DON'T MAKE A BORING ARTICLE OUT OF ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING BANDS IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!. And sorry, that IS Neutral POV — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.156.156.146 (talk) 18:20, 29 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

EWF's religious point of view

The header mentions that the Kalimba is played (by Maurice White) in every album of the band. That's good and accurate, because they were trying to mantain an 'african element' in their music for most of it. But there's more. From, i'm not sure, 1974's Open Our Eyes or 1975's That's The Way Of The World, they added something more: best described in the AllMusic review for the album Spirit, written by Alex Henderson, "an interesting blend of Afro-American Christianity and Eastern philosophy"; some egyptian symbols in the cover, an overall philosophy in the lyrics and themes, love, all is one, etc. This article needs to point that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.220.233.212 (talk) 01:06, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Merger proposal

I propose that Earth, Wind & Fire Horns be merged into Earth, Wind & Fire. Unlike the much more notable Phenix Horns, there seems to be little evidence that this more recent horn section has achieved notability outside of the main band. Their membership is obviously relevant to the Earth, Wind & Fire article, and their appearances on other people's albums can be briefly mentioned there. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 18:32, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the merge proposal. The "solo works" section can simply been adapted to be a "list of album appearances" section. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 16:56, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well the article Earth, Wind & Fire Horns meets several notability guidelines within Wikipedia:Notability (music) under the heading "Criteria for musicians and ensembles". At first under point 1 of the criterion as the horn section "has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself". Additionally under point 6 which states that it "is an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles." This article also meets point 6 of the criterion being "has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc." With this being so the article Earth, Wind & Fire Horns is thus notable in accordance to these stipulated guidelines and shouldn't be merged into the article Earth, Wind & Fire whatsoever. Woojy88 (Talk) 14:41, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's not necessarily about notability, it's about the information in this article being better suited within another article. This isn't a deletion debate.StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 21:02, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

After perusing the article Earth, Wind & Fire Horns I will have to say I disagree with this merge proposal by User:doomsdayer520. As User:Woojy88 stated the Earth, Wind & Fire Horns have gone on to achieve notability outside of the main band. This is assured given their work with several prominent artistes as is displayed within the article. Therefore despite what both User:doomsdayer520 and User:Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars have proposed there's no need to merge and simultaneously delete the article Earth, Wind & Fire Horns. Alkhi04 (Talk) 20:41, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Woojy88 (Talk) 14:45, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I want to disagree with the merge but if "Earth, Wind & Fire Horns" is their group name, then I would say keep. However they don't actually have a solo catalogue such as albums or singles registered to that their group name. As far as them playing behind other singers (Whitney, Queen Latifah, etc.), it more so seems like a coincidence that all of the 'band members' of EWFH are playing behind other singers. And if that's the case, I also would say merge. I would only say keep if they are an actual established group aside from EWF. Horizonlove (talk) 05:32, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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