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Armenian dynasties

Hi! Concerning your Armenian nobility categories (great work BTW!), it is bad practice and semantically incorrect to place entire dynasties in the "Kings of X", "Princes of Y" categories, as the latter are a subset of the former; there are always members of a dynasty that bore no royal title, or, in the case of larger dynasties, there are several titles that its members held. The correct practice is to limit the use of the specific titles only to the members of the dynasty where they applied, not the dynasty as a whole. Cheers, Constantine 06:40, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Constantine! Thank you for the letter. I see. You are right about the kings and princes, but let me add something. I think, that if we don't add these categories, what will be in this or that category? Or, how the user/reader can be informed, which principality or kingdom the dynasty ruled? Besides that, in the articles I have mentioned both the title and the family. So, in categories king of X are the kings, and the families. Regards, --Hayk.arabaget (talk) 10:51, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the answer to your question is simple: the "Armenian kings" category will contain the "Kings of Vaspurakan/Ani/Kars/etc" categories, which in turn will contain the actual holders of the specific titles, and no-one else. Ditto for the princes category. Regarding "how the user/reader can be informed, which principality or kingdom the dynasty ruled", you can either add the kingdom article page or category to the dynasty category or the dynasty category to the kingdom category, depending on the respective dynamics: i.e., if the dynasty existed beyond the kingdom, then it should not be a subcategory of the kingdom, but rather the opposite (e.g. the Artsrunis with respect to the Kingdom of Vaspurakan); if it was coterminous with it or one of the dynasties that held the royal title (in other words, the dynasty emerged within a specific kingdom and was notable only within that context), it should be contained within it (like the Byzantine dynasties for instance). This of course is a rule of thumb and not absolute, but is the common practice and the one that makes more sense. Cheers, Constantine 20:28, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
OK, Constantine, thank you for explanation. Now it is clear. Thus, respecting your contributions and your experience, I will not change anything, unless you do the edits. Regards, --Hayk.arabaget (talk) 20:44, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
And one more question, Constantine, Category:Princes of Tayk and the others will be deleted? as they will be empty? Or they will contain only the names of the princes? Constantine, also I need your help here... If you have time. TThe original list is here.--Hayk.arabaget (talk) 12:57, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the message, DPL bot. The first one - about the kingdom, I have already checked, but the second - Bagratuni, should be a disambiguation link. Regards, --Hayk.arabaget (talk) 10:03, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Просьба

Здравствуйте господин Hayk Arabaget, я участник Азербайджанской Википедии Фарид Алиев [2]. Хотелось бы с Вами посоветоваться по одному вопросу, я в Азербайджанской Википедии создал некоторое время назад статью про монастырь Гегард [3]. На данный момент она лучшая среди языков, но я бы хотел дать ее в лабораторию на получение статуса ХС или ИС, для этого я ищу большое количество литературы, вы могли бы помочь мне в литературе, я бы взял оттуда информацию, перевел на азербайджанский (но если не трудно дать эту литературу на русском, английском или немецком). С уважением Keete 37 — Preceding undated comment added 19:16, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Здравствуйте, Keete 37, постараюсь найти. У меня тоже есть просьба к Вам. Вы можете аргументировать, почему мои правки все отменяются затем восстанавливаются в азвики? Единственное, что не восстановилось - [4]. Вторая просьба, я тоже написал некоторые статьи об азербайджанцев в Армянской Википедии. В частности, я бы хотел получить фотографии Зейнаб Ханларовой и Муслима Магомаева. Можете мне помочь? С уважением, Hayk.arabaget (talk) 22:15, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Думаю, что на русском будет Вам легче. Пожалуйста, сайт туристический, но текст копирован из книги история Армении, опять, туристический сайт, но текст из книги серий История Армении, и вот, семь частей, первая уже открыта, остальные - справа.--Hayk.arabaget (talk) 22:23, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Господин Hayk Arabaget, я просмотрел статью и увидел вашу правку насчет Левона Тер Петросяна, я исправил и оставил лишь вашу правку. А насчет Муслима Магомаева и Зейнаб Ханларовой, могу сказать следующее: в коммонсе есть фотографии Муслима Магомаева [5], а фотография Зейнаб Ханларовой есть только в Азербайджанской Википедии [6]. Я благодарю вас за то, что нашли литературу про монастырь Гегард. Желаю вам успехов в Википедии. С уважением: Keete 37
Спасибо большое за правку, Keete 37. Да, насчет Муслима Магомаева я знал, но хотел больше при возможности. А насчет Ханларовой, то, что есть в азвики, это несвободный файл. По правилам Википедии, не могут быть несвободные файлы живого человека, либо он дает свои личные фотографии сам, либо позволяет фотографировать. Успехов, обращайтесь. С уважением, Hayk.arabaget (talk) 19:43, 12 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A question

Hello!

I have a question; why did you precisely change the categories from history of... to military history of... , right here? [7]

Thank you. - LouisAragon (talk) 07:29, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello LouisAragon. I did, as the categories history of... are mega-categories, and they should content only categories. The second reason: history of X already includes Category:Wars involving. Thanks for question, cheers--Hayk.arabaget (talk) 10:23, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Got your rationale. :) Thanks! - LouisAragon (talk) 12:36, 24 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Vaspurakan

Hi, I noticed you take care of quite alot of the categorisation of Armenia-related articles matters, amongst others. I recently completed adding some more of the historical Armenian churches of the Vaspurakan region to Category:Vaspurakan. From what I understand, this topic covers the abundant and extensive Armenian history in the region prior to the 15th century. However, there are quite a few 16th/17th-made Armenian churches and monasteries located in the region as well, as you know. I added these to the Vaspurakan category as well, for the time being at least. Do you have any objections against this, as in; do you want them to be added to a different category? In my opinion, I think it should be all just put under this one and only category, but I wanted to hear your opinion as well. Bests - LouisAragon (talk) 01:50, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Request

Greetings Mr Hayk.arabaget,

Nice to meet you.

What would be the Cyrillic equivalents for the following Armenian letters? = :

բ = б = b (like in English)
գ = г = g (like in English)
թ = т = t (like in English, but in Russian sounds like in French)
ժ = ж = zh
ձ = дз = dz
ղ = г = ġ (doesn't exist in English, like in Arabic غ or in Greek ɣ)
ճ = ч = č̣ (doesn't exist in English, only in Georgian ჭ)
ջ = дж = j (like in English)
ռ = р = r (not like in English, rudely like in Russian)
փ = п = p (like in English)
և = эв (ев) = ev
օ = о = o (like in English)
ֆ = ф = f (like in English)


Your help would be fully appreciated, Thank you. --DaveZ123 (talk) 07:00, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello DaveZ123. Done! --Hayk.arabaget (talk) 10:49, 25 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thankyou very much Mr. Hayk.arabaget for your awesome Armenian help!
I am really Grateful.
May you be blessed!
--DaveZ123 (talk) 02:30, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
What a nice surprise! Thank you DaveZ123. If there will be other questions, you are always welcome )) --Hayk.arabaget (talk) 04:11, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Akhtala Monastery

Our rule is that a topic's name in any language that's directly relevant to its encyclopedic context can be given in the article (for instance, I'm Canadian, and there are many topics here in my own country for which it's important for us to provide the name in both English and French, or English and Inuktitut, or English and Cree), and the monastery's name in Georgian has been present in the article since 2008 without incident. And there have been reasons provided in the article and on the talk page why its name in Georgian is contextually relevant. So you're certainly welcome to post to the talk page to discuss the reasons why you think it should be removed — but you don't get to just arbitrarily remove it yourself without discussion, or demand that Kober (who's been around here for over a decade, and is quite familiar with our rules and processes) get sanctioned for reverting you. If I were going to editblock anybody on the basis of that disagreement alone, it would be you and not Kober — but I'm not actually going to do that, because it hasn't reached that level yet.

Again, you're welcome to raise the question of whether its name in Georgian should be in the article or not for discussion on Talk:Akhtala Monastery — but until that discussion has resulted in a consensus one way or the other, you need to leave the name in the article alone in the meantime. Bearcat (talk) 19:15, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Bearcat, thank you for quick reply. Tomorrow I shall do that. About the rules, I respect yours, but in our Wikipedia the false means false, and it doesn't matter how many years is the user editing Wikipedia, the rule is the same for all --Hayk.arabaget (talk) 19:26, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]