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Leading cause of death in the USAF

Is it notable enough to indicate what is the single largest cause of injury and death to Air Force members?

Hint: This is the service that trains to operate the most high performance vehicles in the world... Hcobb (talk) 01:43, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

haha probably not, but if the other armed forces pages have it then I dont see why not. Although I imagine it will be a rather unuseful addition.P0PP4B34R732 (talk) 01:55, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Once again Hcobb, please be direct with what it is you want added to the article, and please back it up with a source. You've been around long enough to know how to propose article changes properly. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 02:05, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

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Hidden note about Growler?

Would it be worthwhile to direct people trying to edit in the Super Hornet to the one USAF unit that trains EWOs to fly in Growlers? Hcobb (talk) 03:07, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Assuming you are referring to this edit, no, a hidden note is not necessary. This wasn't a case of someone mistaking the Growler for a Super Hornet, but rather someone trying to add the entire Hornet family as a USAF aircraft. At this time, such a hidden note would be a solution in search of a problem. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 06:27, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Core functions vs operational functions

Do we need both lists? Could we drop the list from the lead and just use the list under operational functions? Hcobb (talk) 20:41, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

No. One is the Air Force core values, more of a moral and ethical standard. The other is what the Air Force actually does. They are not substitutable with the other, they are not about the same thing. --OuroborosCobra (talk) 21:14, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

No, that's a third (unrelated list). The current sequence is:

  • Lead - The USAF articulates its core functions ... (Dozen listed are duplicate with operational functions below)
  • Lead - The core values of the Air Force are ... (Sounds like it belongs down in culture)
  • 1 Mission - 1.1 Operational functions - The Air Force describes its mission in terms of 17 operational functions: (The list expands from 12 to 17 by breaking some items into multiple parts.)

Hcobb (talk) 01:21, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

And Agile Combat Support is purely in support of special ops? Not according to the added ref. Hcobb (talk) 18:03, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Mission subheadings

An editor removed many mission subheadings. I feel that the article was better with the mission subheadings included. What do other editors think about this? Pinetalk 03:20, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

There were way too many subheadngs under Core Functions. A subheading per paragraph does really help the reader and fills up the table of contents. -Fnlayson (talk) 03:26, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
How about at least boldfacing the names of each function for easier reading? Pinetalk 04:40, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Friday Name Tags

Is this truly a recent change on the same scope and scale as the others mentioned in this section? If so, can it be linked to a larger change in Air Force traditions? This seems to be (relative to the rest of the section) a minor change that only impacts a small segment of the Air Force. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.132.164.86 (talk) 19:37, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

High Speed Strike Weapon

Where does the High Speed Strike Weapon page go?

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/06/hypersonic-missiles/

Hcobb (talk) 03:09, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Date Air Force was created

On 26 July 1947, President Harry S. Truman approved the National Security Act of 1947, which created the National Military Establishment, including the Office of Secretary of Defense and the Departments of the Army, Navy, and Air Force.


Not 18 Sept.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.91.89.32 (talk) 06:27, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Read the reference for that text, U.S. Air Force fact sheet. -Fnlayson (talk) 15:27, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Trimming down the culture section

I'd like to say something short like "The USAF is the armed service of the future. It always has been, and it always will be", but that would be OR. So how do we balance the futuristic aspirations of the service vs. the all too human failings along the way? Hcobb (talk) 03:02, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Why does the culture section need to trimmed? Are you instead suggesting a rewrite and if so, why? I'm sure it isn't perfect - and seems to be poorly written with several bullets rather than in prose form - but I think I might be missing your point. Ckruschke (talk) 16:56, 31 March 2014 (UTC)Ckruschke