User talk:Sean McPhillips

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McPhillips Genealogy Search - Questionable assertion of the Phillip MacMahon origin of McPhillips

Hello again,

This is the other Sean McPhillips. I have been doing some additional extension research, specifically tracking down the "Phillip MacMahon" origin of the McPhillips name. In "The Book of Ulster Surnames" (Robert Bell), his reference is The Monaghan Story(Peadar Livingstone). The reference in The Monaghan Story is in the Clogher Record, which you site in the Wikipedia article on "Clones Abbey". When you look at this specific reference, on p.176 it states "It is possible that, just as the Monaghan surname, McPhillips owes its origin to Phillip MacMahon, the famous Comharb of Clones, who died in 1486." Note that this reference begins with "It is possible...". This suggests that this reference is NOT definitive, merely a possibility. Although, it does appear to further reference "AU", implying the Annals of Ulster, but no specific reference within the AU.

I recommend modifying this reference (and subsequent references like in the "Clones Abbey" to reflect this until further confirmation.

--Smcphillips (talk)Sean McPhillips, mcphillipssean@aol.com--

Thanks for your interest, Updated possible in Reference. You'll find the info in the gaelic edition of the Irish/Ulster Annals. Surnames such as Philbin, McPhillips and McArdle are lost in translation in the online english edition of the Annals. Mac Pilib & Mac Philib does however appear in the Gaelic edition in the Irish/ulster Annals. The surname was common among the McMahons of Oriel, O'Reillys in the Kingdom of Breifne & Maguires of Fermanagh between the 14th & 17th centuries. Worth noting that Irish gaelic was the spoken language at the time and Historians Peadar Livingstone, Rev. Pádraig Ó Gallachair were fluent Irish/gaelic speakers and would have studied the original documents. Robert Bell explains in page 2 / Book of Ulster Surnames about different spellings, translations, half-translations, and miss-translations and it does appear there were different translation of names e.g. Séamus mac Pilib Mac Mathghamhna or Séamus mhic Philib Mag Mathghamhna. he was also known as just Séamus mhic Philib in the Annuals, But Other Historian translated his name as James McMahon, online english translation is James son of Philip Mac Mahon other historians would have translated the name as James Mac Philip Mac Mahon. It seems some people back in the middle ages went with their fathers christian name as their surname rather than the clan surname.

Sean McPhillips(talk) 20:35, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

McPhillips Genealogy Search - Clan Donald vs. MacMahon origin

Hello,

My name is also Sean McPhillips. I am conducting an extensive genealogy search of the "McPhillips" name. I have uncovered significant evidence that it descends from Clan Donald and is supported by the official Clan Donald USA genealogist (www.clan-donald-usa.org). However, this wikipedia page and its references suggest that it descends from MacMahon. I have checked the reference and, while it does mention McPhillips, I cannot seem to locate the footnotes within these referneces supporting the McPhillips relationship to MacMahon. I have confirmed that MacMahon is NOT a Clan Donald name, but McPhillips appears to be a Clan Donald name. Clan Donald references are at the bottom of this email.

I have joined the Family Tree DNA projects under the names Phillips, MacMahon, and Clan Donald. I'm waiting on the results. But, what I am seeing with McMahon vs. Clan Donald appears to be in conflict. There is no mention of Clan Donald on the "McPhillips (surname)" page in wikipedia, with the exception of the "similar names" being in the Info Box. Those "similar names" are Clan Donald names (again, see bottom of this email for info forwarded from Clan Donald USA).

Please advise on your references and how they reconcile with the Clan Donald references.

Sean McPhillips, mcphillipssean@aol.com

Here is what I have from the official Clan Donald Genealogy authority in the USA:

From Clan Donald name book: MACPHILIP - A form of MACKILLOP (109).

109. MACKILLOP - From Lochaber, Islay, Kintyre or Arran. They derive from: Gaelic Mac Fhilib - "son of Philip" - Lochaber - KEPPOCH, Islay & Kintyre - Clan Donald SOUTH.

Most MacKillops seem to trace their anme to Lochaber/Keppoch. Sister Mary MacKillop of Keppoch went to 19th century Australia, and her good works led to her official sainthood a few years ago.

However, Glengarry territory is "just across the street" from Keppoch territory and, if you know the emigrant ancestor was from Glengarry territory, then that is what you are. If you don't know where he came from, then Keppoch is the most likely home.

Just remembered. From roster of Keppoch's Regt. at Culloden, 1746.

MacPhilip, Angus, Torgulbin Surrendered May '46

MacPhilip, Donald, Brunachan Surrendered May '46

MacPhilip, Donald, Daddunderig Surrendered May '46

MacPhilip, John, Moy Surrendered May '46

This would seem to cinch it for Keppoch.

Jim McDonald, Genealogist, Clan Donald USA, 9131 Brighton Place, Savannah, GA 31406, 912-354-7149

--Smcphillips (talk) 17:45, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your interested, I put the irish claim up first to provoke a reaction because i was curious in what other people (especially other McPhillipses) had to say. I've since decided to change the page and write about the etymology of the surname and list different Irish/Scottish clans who used different forms of the surname. This page is now a collection of what different historians and sites have wrote about the surname. However, I wouldn't be to quick to dismiss Peader Livingstone as his footnotes and references are numbered and can be found from page 609-634 in his book The Monaghan story. I'm not denying the Scottish side of the name, but in fairnest it's up to you to write about the scottish side as you have more information. www.clan-donald-usa.org only list MacPhilip as a gaelic form of MACKILLOP, which is already mentioned on this page. if you have any info please upload it. thanks

Sean McPhillips(talk) 20:35, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Conflict of interest

Alex, Just wanted to get advice. I got tagged as having a close connection/Conflict of interest with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_McPhillips. I have an interest in my surname, but I'm not related or associated with Colin McPhillips. I've never meet the man. Kind of regretting i used my real name here as i wouldnt have had a problem if i used a nickname. I've supplied references, but this dosen't seem good enough. I'd appriciate some feedback so that this dosen't happen again as i don't want to get in trouble. Hope to here from you soon. regards --Sean McPhillips (talk) 23:32, 20 July 2011 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:AlexGWU"

Sean, as long as the article contains verifiable citations and references and with regards to articles about people it has notability references it should not matter who publishes the article. You may want to get an admin involved as well. Use the articles talk page to indicate article is in compliance with Wiki rules.AlexGWU (talk) 18:06, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the neutrality template from the article. I don't think it belongs there AlexGWU (talk) 18:44, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Albert McPhillips

Hi, was wondering if you have any relation to Albert McPhillips and could locate an obituary if he is deceased? Thank you in advance, Connormah (talk) 02:16, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Connor, I'm not a close relative. I was wondering about the same thing myself, I was also curious to find out if he was a son or nephew of Albert Edward McPhillips as i wanted to link the 2 pages. [1] has a lot of info about the McPhillips family, But I couldnt find any info about Albert DeBurgo McPhillips. dukes of connaught regiment might have some info on [2] . Sorry I couldn't be more Help, Sean McPhillips (talk) 13:23, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for the reply. From what I have researched, he was the son of Albert Edward McPhiliips (per a Google Books search), but that's all I can offer. Chances are he is deceased and died somewhere in the late 80s or 1990s, thats where the obituary coverage online is thin. Connormah (talk) 20:02, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Stefan, sorry for late reply. i've no objection to delete the image. thanks for the heads up, Sean McPhillips (talk) 20:15, 1 january 2014 (UTC)