Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vinod Jose

Vinod Jose

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Non-notable journalist, sources used are primary. Article fails WP:AUTHOR. — Nearly Headless Nick {c} 19:48, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Checked around for any independent reports, couldn't find any. Clearly fails WP:AUTHOR. 122.176.146.47 (talk) 20:34, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:07, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of News-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:07, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:07, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The nominator is correct that the article as written at present is in a terrible state. However, Vinod Jose is an award-winning journalist. He is also notable for publishing literary, or narrative, journalism within the context of Indian journalism, for several highly-regarded interviews, and for starting a magazine and reestablishing another. He has published journalism in India in both English and Malayalam. The latter makes it difficult to search for that part of his career. I'll be adding some fresh sources to the article. Crtew (talk) 13:47, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Fresh sources added: Plenty of secondary references exist and have been added while the article has been expanded. Among the sources are information about his awards, which satisfies a key factor in establishing notability for WP:Author. His work as a journalist has also been covered, commented on and quoted by his peers, which satisfies another factor. His work in narrative journalism in India makes him important.Crtew (talk) 09:07, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Here are just two sources for the awards: Asia Society, Institute for War & Peace Reporting.

Delete Fails [WP:AUTHOR]]. No secondary sources. Fai zan 08:02, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What version were you looking at? Crtew (talk) 09:08, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Seems at present the claim to notability rests on awards. Which aren't really that. Since one is a single "honourable mention" among many and one is a scholarship. The only remaining thing, therefore, is one award from the Asia Society of New york. In any case, and most importantly, a random award is explicitly not part of WP:AUTHOR. There are dozens of journalism prizes out there, and that's why it isn't considered notable if you win one unless the prize itself is notable, like the Pulitzer. The "secondary" sources mentioned discuss individual stories and consist mainly of blog roundups of notable stories of that period. So that isn't useful either. Essentially, it is difficult to find any journalist of any experience who has written one or two stories about which an analogous article could not be written. Which is why this needs to be deleted. 210.7.71.114 (talk) 09:47, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]