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Declining a page at AFC

Do you have to be an official reviewer to decline a page at AFC if it is obvious garbage, like this? King jakob c (talk) 13:01, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi King jakob c. You don't have to be any sort of official to review new pages (there exists a Reviewer userright, but it's for reviewing pending changes, not new pages). As long as you have a basic grasp of Wikipedia's basic inclusion requirements, you are welcome to patrol new pages - there are some instructions to help you get started at this page. Your assistance would be appreciated, since AFC is nearly always backlogged these days. As for that particular page, I've deleted it as spurious vandalism, so no review required! Yunshui  13:06, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Editing the right-hand column

Hello,

I'm a new user and have managed to update the Ganges_shark page with new content and in-line citations. There are just a few things I haven't been able to figure out through the help pages:

- How can I add new headings and content within the right-hand column? I want to add taxonomic synonyms and common names beneath the scientific classification. I have managed to create a heading for Synonyms by copying the HTML from 'View source', but the formatting goes awry when I try to add text beneath. My knowledge of HTML is limited and I don't want to muck around in the code too much.

- Range map: the previous range map was incorrect, indicating ocean habitat, whereas this is a freshwater species with a range very similar to that of the Ganges River dolphin.

- Figures/photos: I have two photos to add, and I'm currently awaiting permission for use from the authors.

Many thanks!! Ocococo (talk) 10:03, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ocococo, and welcome to the Teahouse. By "the right-hand column" I presume you mean the Taxobox, in which case you don't need to create your own HTML header - just add:

| synonyms =
*''species1'' <small>Authority1</small>
*''species2'' <small>Authority2</small>

somewhere inside the template. I've done this for you in the article.
The rangemap looks to be fixed; it's currently identical to that of the Ganges River dolphin, so I assume you worked out how to sort that.
As for additional images, thank you for locating new pictures! In order to use them on Wikipedia, you need to persuade the authors to release them under CC-BY-SA or a similar free licence. Once that's done, you should upload them to Wikimedia Commons; bear in mind that you may need to persuade the orginal authors to either email the volunteer response team or make the licensing status of the images publicly available online. Yunshui  10:22, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yunshui 雲‍水 - thank you so much! What a great first experience on Wikipedia - very helpful and so fast!
- For the Taxobox, I've added the common names below the synonyms, using the same formatting as you. But something must be missing because the text is not appearing.
- For the range map, I replaced the original map with the one from the river dolphin page as a temporary improvement. But it's not 100% correct either, as it shows the Indus River. I can always crop Pakistan out of the map, but I prefer to modify the image. Are there guidelines on that?
- Photos - thanks again for the info - I'll investigate.
All the best,
Ocococo (talk) 10:42, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I see what you did there... unfortunately, the Taxobox template doesn't support a | common names = parameter (a full list of available parameters for the template is available here). That information might be considered excessive for the article, but if it is to be included, the best place to do so would be in the main body of the text, under a new heading ==Name== or perhaps ==Etymology==, depending on how much info you have.
Image modification's not my forte, I'm afraid - you might find Wikipedia:Preparing images for upload useful, though. Whilst I can't help technically, policy-wise you can certainly create a new map based on the existing one, but you need to credit the original to avoid violating any copyright.
Best of luck. Yunshui  11:00, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How to insert a picture while editing a page

Please tell me how am i supposed to insert a picture in the page i am editing Nikgeorge777 (talk) 07:53, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

first their are a few requirements your account must be 4 days old and you must have made 10 edits.then i would check out this:Wikipedia:Picture tutorial.(p.s. sorry if this isn't a good answer i'm not really an administrator.)
Zeroro (talk) 08:32, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
To expand on Zeroro's answer: if the image you want to use is already on Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, you can include it by entering the following basic text into the article:[[name of file|thumb|caption]]. So, for example, if you wanted to insert the image at File:Chips and beans with egg.jpg, you would type:

[[File:Chips and beans with egg.jpg|thumb|A picture of chips, beans and egg]]

If the picture you want to use is not on Wikipedia, but on your computer, you will need to upload it first. If you took the picture or made it yourself, you can do this at Wikimedia Commons. Otherwise, you can try making a request at Files for upload on Wikipedia, but if the image is not freely licensed, it will probably not be usable here. Yunshui  09:21, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Great - this explains it. Thanks again!!

Ocococo (talk) 11:05, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References

How can I use the same reference with out making it a different footnote? My page Morganella morganii, I am having trouble reusing the same citations? Please advise.

Thank you NatashaP 03:04, 7 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nphrsai (talkcontribs)

Hey Natasha and welcome to the Teahouse! The easiest way to cite the same reference multiple times is to set a name in the "ref name" parameter. You'll need to type out the first one, and then for the next time use <ref name=x /> and it should cite it to the same reference. You can read more about citing sources at WP:CS. Thanks. Go Phightins! 03:11, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
WP:REFB also has some information on referencing for beginners. Go Phightins! 03:12, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much!!! Can I edit a reference already used to give it a reference name? NatashaP 03:32, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Sure! All you have to do is, where it says "<ref>{{cite..." make it "<ref name=(whatever){{cite..." and then once you're through with that one simply type "<ref name=(whatever you made it in the original) /> Go Phightins! 03:36, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yes I did it!! NatashaP 03:38, 7 December 2012 (UTC) Thanks for your help. That was much easier than I thought! NatashaP 03:38, 7 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nphrsai (talkcontribs)

When does a stub become expanded as a regular article?

Hi I am new. If I expand a stub, how much information do I need to put up to make my piece no longer a stub?

Is there a requirement? I am just curious.

Thanks NatashaP 03:46, 7 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nphrsai (talkcontribs)

Welcome to the teahouse! There's no technical requirement, but the general rule of thumb on DYK (which only allows Start articles and not stub articles) is 1500 characters of readable prose. When an article has been sufficiently expanded, the stub tag can be removed and WikiProject grade can be promoted to Start class. The article that you've expanded, Morganella morganii, currently consists of 2913 characters of prose, and more than adequently qualifies as a Start article.--xanchester (t) 03:58, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've gone ahead and tagged the article as a Start class article.--xanchester (t) 04:01, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

my userboxes

me again sorry about all the questions, but can you tell me why the USBs already on my user page are all out of place like that. thank you. Zeroro (talk) 01:26, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back! You'll need a {{userbox top}} above and a ((userbox bottom}} below your userboxes per column. See User:Xanchester/Userboxes for an example.--xanchester (t) 03:50, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

acually i think i'll keep them the way they are but thanx anyway. Zeroro (talk) 04:02, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

make a userbox?

how can i make my own userbox? Zeroro (talk) 22:31, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Question about my article.

I've been working on this page in my sandbox, but it doesn't seem right. Is there any help I can get on making it better? Or is this the wrong place to ask? King jakob c (talk) 22:20, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How can I add my company's logo to an article pageKmpurdy (talk) 21:18, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Kmpurdy! A logo is a non-Free, "Fair Use" file. That is, it's not in the Public Domain, but we can carefully make limited use of it to specifically illustrate the subject article. What you do is go to WP:File Upload Wizard, follow the instructions there, select "Fair use" and choose the image from your computer, giving it a very specific filename like "XCompanylogo". Fill out the fields, and make absolutely sure you choose, "Fair use, company logo" as your designation, and that you indicate you're using the file only on the page specifically for the company. In the end, you'll get a message saying "file uploaded to File:Xcompanylogo, and you can include that in your article as you would any other image. If you forget what the filename was, you can hit your "Contributions" tab at the top of your page to look back and see what you uploaded it as. All good? Let us know if you have any issues trying this. MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:33, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

HRH Princess Maria Carolina of Bourbon Two Sicilies (b. 2003)- Notable for an article?

Re: User:PrincessAlice13/Princess Maria Carolina of Bourbon-Two Sicilies (b. 2003)

I have an article in my Sandbox about HRH Princess Maria Carolina of Bourbon Two Sicilies (b. 2003) I know that she has been to the Danish Royal Twin's baptism as her father, The Duke of Castro, is their godfather. She has also performed another royal duty. There are a quite a few pictures of her online, but I'm just wondering whether she is notable enough for Wikipedia. Any advice? Thanks! PrincessAlice13 (talk) 18:15, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Princess. Welcome to the teahouse. Notability depends on whether the subject has received "significant coverage" in third party reliable sources independent of the subject. I see you do not currently have any references on the page but if she has performed public duties there are likely to be newspaper reports about it. You may be able to find more details here although I cannot see a subsection on princesses!--Charles (talk) 18:22, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Incidentally, there was some discussion a year or so ago about a child of similar age who was slightly further removed, in his case from the former Greek throne. From what I can remember, the conclusion was that he was not notable, and/or that there should not be an article about him. You may struggle to find sufficient coverage in independent reliable sources to justify an article, but (even as a committed BLP zealot) I believe there's no particular harm in trying. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:15, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Reviewal Process

Hi there,

Thanks for inviting me to join the teahouse! I admit I've had a lot of questions on my mind since I started contributing to Wikipedia! Would be so useful to ask some! Have only written one article just yet but am a crazy music fan so I look forward to editing and contributing to more music related articles in the future! Anyway, here's my question:

I've been waiting for my very first article to be reviewed for some time now, would someone here be willing to review it for me? I would really appreciate it if you could, I'm a newie to Wikipedia so I'm not sure how things work!

I am a fan of the singer Lyna Galliara and have written the following article about her, she gave me permission to use the images I've included and in fact she uploaded them onto Wikimedia Commons for me to make things easier and cos she's happy for them to be under Creative Commons and used by others:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Lyna_Galliara

Would really appreciate it if someone here could review it for me?

Thank you so much, Scott ScottDaviesMusicExpert (talk) 11:52, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Scott, welcome to Wikipedia and the Teahouse! First: just you you know, the article actually isn't in the review queue yet; the big box at the top still marks it as "in progress". No worries, though; we can still take a look!
Anyway, I'm sorry to say it, but I think you've run afoul of the same problem that most of us do when starting out on Wikipedia: you haven't established Lyna's notability. You see, notability is our criteria for inclusion of new subjects in the encyclopedia, and it can best be summarized as "significant coverage in multiple reliable sources that are independent of each other and the subject itself." There are more specific guidelines for musicians, actually; you can read about those here, but coverage in reliable sources is the core of it all. The problem is that most, if not all, of the mentions you've listed wouldn't be considered reliable sources; things like Twitter and blogs almost never count as reliable sources, and even radio plays aren't quite it, either. Reliable sources are things that are published with some kind of guarantee or assurance of accuracy, so things like reputable newspapers or magazines that have an editorial, fact-checking staff. So, an article in Rolling Stone magazine or something like that could be considered reliable, but blogs and Twitter posts don't work.
I'm not sure Lyna is notable enough yet for a Wikipedia article. That doesn't mean she'll never be notable enough, though! She's just not there at the moment, so we need to wait a bit until she is, and then we'll have enough reliable sources to be able to write a good article about her. Thanks for your effort, though! Like I said, I bet we've all made this mistake in the past, so don't let it get you down. Having her upload the images on Commons was definitely the right call, and that's a particularly tricky area for people to figure out! So don't be discouraged, and don't take it personally; you did fine. :) Writ Keeper 14:29, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What type of source is acceptable?

I tried to edit a page and put in a source, but some sources i key in is invalid or unacceptable.What type of source is acceptable?Walls Jericho (talk) 07:47, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the teahouse. Sources on Wikipedia must be reliable and independent. Major newspapers, academic books, and scholarly newspapers are all considered reliable sources. Wikipedia also favours secondary and teritary sources over primary sources, although primary sources can be used for uncontroversial details. Self-published sources like wikis or personal blogs are not considered reliable.--xanchester (t) 08:06, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Walls Jericho; welcome to the Teahouse. The problem isn't so much that your references are invalid - it's that they aren't there at all. You can't verify a statement with something like <ref=too many/> - you need to refer to a specific article or website. I suspect you've seen the way some of the other references on the wrestlers' pages are formatted and copied that, but unless you understand how referencing works, I'm afraid that's very unlikely to succeed.
Wikipedia uses references to verify information (so that readers know it isn't just something a random Wikipedia editor made up). You therefore need to find a source that supports your statement first. To add it to the article, use the following format:

This is the statement I want to verify.<ref>URL, book, newspaper article or similar source, with a link if it's available online</ref>

You need to provide more than just a name or word; a simple reference might be something like: "Davis & Hardbottle; Things You Really Need To Know About Wrestling page 118; Sweaty Jockstrap Publishing, 1988". Even a bare URL is better than nothing.
I hope this helps to explain things a bit; if you want to learn how to reference properly I suggest reading through this content guideline. Best of luck, Yunshui  08:19, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Just wrote this to help you, hope it's useful. Yunshui  09:22, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Walls Jericho (talkcontribs) 09:29, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Making your wiki account location details private? Request for oversight?

I apologise as this has no doubt be answered hours before my asking. Is it possible to make not visible, your location details? As I made my account quite a few years ago I had not noticed I had these details visible. Thanks Safez (talk) 05:17, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit- What I found more interesting, is the amount edits my account has somehow made... over 10 000... I havent made an edit in at least 2 years Safez (talk) 05:39, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Safez. Are you referring to edits made whilst you were logged out (editing under an IP address)? Your named account User:Safez has only ever made 48 edits. If you edit using your account, your computer cannot be geolocated, whereas it can be if you edit using an IP address.
If you're concerned that edits you've made as an IP could be linked to your account, you can have those edits be hidden from view by making a request for Oversight; a member of the Oversight team will then supress them. Yunshui  07:50, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your reply. I am referring to the geographical location (city, postcode) information that is supplied when you check someones profile. For example, I do a quick websearch for my user name and I am immediately presented with information including city/postcode information. I'd like this information to not be so freely available. Safez (talk) 09:20, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well perhaps you shouldn't have openly posted it on your userpage, then... I've noindexed your page so that search engines won't cache it, but it'll take a few days before they update. You might want to, I don't know, not post your personal information on the sixth largest website in the world? Yunshui  09:26, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

thank you, I understand that yes, I should not have. I did this over three years ago. Had I had the foresight I have now I would not have done so. Is it possible to have those details removed entirely by the oversight team? Safez (talk) 09:35, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't imagine they'd object, but since it's been present since the creation of your userpage the page will need to be deleted and restarted. I'll sort it out for you, leave it with me. Yunshui  09:38, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, your userpage has now been deleted and recreated without any personal information, and I've asked an oversighter to consider supressing the deleted revisions (I can't promise he will, but even if he doesn't only administrators will now be able to see them). As I said above, search engine indexes take several days to catch up to changes on Wikipedia, so it will still be a while before your details fully disappear from Google. Yunshui  09:48, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I very much appreciate your time and assistance with this. :) Safez (talk) 09:46, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tables with further splitting

Hello,

so I have been asking myself, how to do a consonants table with further splitting (for Gulf Arabic) like the table you find in the article of Egyptian Arabic with all the subdivisions and all. I tried to copy it... but it was just... weird as I had to change a few things and I was compleeeeetely lost. A little help would be much appreciated.

Thanks, -Konanen (talk) 03:31, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Konanen, welcome to the Teahouse. I guess you refer to cells covering more than one row or column. You don't "split" or "subdivide" cells in tables although the rendered result could be interpreted like that. By default, all cells are the same but you can merge adjoining cells with rowspan and colspan described at Help:Table. For example, the "Nasal" cell at Egyptian Arabic phonology#Consonants is two columns wide with "colspan=2 | [[Nasal stop|Nasal]]" in the wikitext. Start by figuring out how many rows and columns you need in total for your intended table design, and then which cells must be merged. Place the required rowspan and/or colspan before the top left cell of those you want to merge. If you save an attempt at User:Konanen/sandbox (linked on "Sandbox" at the top of any page if you have default settings) and describe what you want then we can give accurate advice or fix it for you. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:23, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have put it in User:Konanen/sandbox. It is not finished yet, but when I try to add "! Rowspan="2" colspan=2 |  " to the first "Header Text" my table gets screwed up. I have not yet worked out how to merge the cells, I guess... :D

Greetings, -Konanen (talk) 00:11, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like you worked it out. Well done. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:42, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A big yay for me, but of course one should not forget to show gratitude, so I do thank you very much!

-Konanen (talk) 14:12, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can the page in my Sandbox go on Wikipedia

In reference to User:Jocy H/sandbox

Hi, this is scarey. I've written about myself - as other writers have done. It's in my sandbox. Can it go on Wikipedia as a page, or does it need approval or proof? If it can be an entry, how do I do that? Jocy HJocy H (talk) 02:45, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jocy, and welcome to the Teahouse. You're correct in saying that many other writers (and other individuals) have written articles about themselves - these nearly always turn out to be unsuitable for Wikipedia, and are either rewritten entirely by other uses or deleted altogether. We actually have a content guideline which emphatically discourages the writing of an autobiography; the resultant conflict of interest makes it all but impossible for such contributors to adhere to Wikipedia's policy of maintaining a neutral point of view. Your sandbox article, for example, is little more than an endorsement of your works and a listing of them; it says virtually nothing about you yourself. In addition, it contains no reliable sources with which readers can verify the information you claim. It would not be acceptable as a Wikipedia article, I'm afraid.
If you genuinely feel that you meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, a more appropriate venue would be Requested Articles. Here, you can ask other editors to create an article about you, without fear of a conflict of interest. However, please don't try writing an article about yourself; it almost always ends in tears. Yunshui  08:00, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Setting aside "don't write about yourself", the article User:Jocy H/sandbox is not submittable as it stands. To have a biography of an author, it is not at all enough to simply prove they've written and published a book. The article absolutely must meet the standards of Wikipedia:Notability (authors). That is, there has to be substantive, neutral, third party discussion of the author and her/his significance. Not a blurb on Amazon, not a promotional bio on the publisher's site, but actual articles in journalism or academic sources saying "hey, let's talk about author So and So and the impact of the recent book Stuff about Stuff." The current article does not have any of that. Definitely review the Notability policy (good to know in general for editing Wikipedia), and again, writing about yourself is just generally a bad idea. MatthewVanitas (talk) 17:01, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How to upload a picture?

Hello. I want to change a picture but when I clicked on the Insert Picture button, there's no upload option. How do I go about using another picture?Treeroy (talk) 00:02, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Teeroy and welcome to the Teahouse! There are two types of images:
  • Free – you created the image yourself
  • Fair-use (non-free) – you found the image somewhere (e.g. a website)
If you created the image yourself, you may use the image upload wizard on Commons. The main file upload wizard is located at this link: File Upload Wizard, and it should be able to guide you through most of the steps. If the image is fair-use, make sure to add the appropriate copyright information in the wizard. Once you have uploaded the image, add [[File:<name of file>]] in the page's code. If you need any specific help with the process, feel free to ask here.
(for more information, please see the image use policy)
The Anonymouse (talk • contribs) 01:38, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Signure and new article creating process

How to use signature while creating a new article?

Do I need to use my signature or when I create a new article, my signature is automatically added?

Thanks Can.kilic1981 (talk) 23:31, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Can.kilic; welcome to the Teahouse! Signatures are just for talk pages, actually—never add your signature when editing articles. To add your signature (to a talk page), just type ~~~~ after your comments. Happy editing! —Theopolisme 23:38, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks :))) Can.kilic1981 (talk) 12:41, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Can.kilic. Your "signature" in article space is found in the article's history. To see it, click on "View History" at the top of the page.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:53, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Changing username

Hi/I would like to know how can I change my user name in Wikipedia?Shirin Nezhadbahram (talk) 01:59, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back! Take a look at this page. :) —Theopolisme 02:00, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How Do You Move From the Sandbox

I completed an article in my sandbox and followed the instructions to move it. I used Move to Wikipedia and to User but when I search for it I can't find it. What am I doing wrong?Robert Adamski (talk) 21:17, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Robert, welcome to the Teahouse! the problem here is that "Wikipedia" is actually the wrong choice in that menu; the correct choice was "(Article)", at the top of the list. It's actually a very common mistake to make, though, so don't worry about it! The deal is that the "Wikipedia" choice on that menu refers to what's called the Wikipedia namespace, or WP for short. It's not a place for articles, but a place for the policies, noticeboards, help pages and the like; all the information about Wikipedia, but not the encyclopedia itself. This very page is actually within the WP namespace: you can tell because it has the "Wikipedia:" bit on the front. Anyway, Nthep (another host) has moved the page back into your sandbox at User:Robert Adamski/sandbox2, so you can try again there. Hope this helps! :) Writ Keeper 21:55, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)Robert, welcome to the Teahouse. Your article has done the rounds and is now to be found at User:Robert Adamski/sandbox2. The navigation bit first. At the top of the screen you will find a number of links to; your Userpage, your Talk page, Preferences, Watchlist and Contributions. If you click on Contributions you will see the edits you have made starting with the most recent. Moving the page, you obviously found the move button in the drop down list at the top of the edit screen and managed to move the article from your sandbox. Unfortunately you sent it to the wrong namespace. The are several namespace and intuitive as moving the article to the Wikipedia namespace is that was the wrong one. That namespace is for pages about Wikipedia (like this page). You worked out it was the wrong area and then moved it to a place in the User namespace again incorrect, I'm afraid. Articles belong in the (Article) or main namespace.
I could have moved it from the user namespace to the mainspace for you but instead I've moved it back to a sandbox page of yours. The reason for this is that left in mainsapce the article would very likely get deleted as it, currently, doesn't explain the notability of the church nor is it supported by any references. Moving it back to your sandbox at least eliminates this possibility while you work on it. I suggest you don't move it until you have resolved the notability and referencing issues NtheP (talk) 22:10, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
How do you reply to answers?Robert Adamski (talk) 22:48, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You've just done it. NtheP (talk) 22:52, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dear sir/recently added an article about a musician and deleted by a host,how can I retrieve article based on first thread they asked me just add a real reference and I addeld .Now I wanted to improve it.regardsShirin Nezhadbahram (talk) 02:25, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Salom Shirin! The easy answer first: if you want a draft undeleted so it can be moved to your Userpage so you can work on it, you can request that here: Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion. However, have you read the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sara Shahmohammadi? According to the editors there, you're writing an article about yourself or someone you are personally close to (after the person herself was blocked from editing), have repeatedly submitted it at an unready stage, and repeatedly had it deleted. Since you kept re-creating it (and apparently by creating new usernames, which is considered "cheating"), they've "salted" that title so no such article can be created without permission. It is possible that they will not undelete the article out of concern that you will continue to try to force through an article about yourself or promote a friend's career, which is highly discouraged, see WP:Autobiography. You can still request Userification for a draft, but the administrator may not accept it, fearing that you are not here to help build an encyclopedia, but just to promote a career. You are certainly very welcome to help us maintain and create articles, and if you're interested in Persian culture or music we could certainly use your enthusiasm, but this is simply not the place to write about yourself, or to promote anyone's career. MatthewVanitas (talk) 17:14, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A few Questions ...

1. Is there a template for Ancestry.com to prove a birth date of a subject?

2. How does one accompany their edits with a short explanation on the "View History" page to back up their contribution?

3. Are ASINs from other countries such as UK, Japan, et al allowed to prove the existence (release date, etc) for an album? The Wiki-template says, "yes" but not for US. Is this correct?

Wikiguardpatrol (talk) 17:56, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wikiguardpatrol, on the Ancestry question, they either host original records or family trees created by amateur genealogists. Neither are appropriate sources to prove or disprove a date of birth. We should be using reliable, published sourced to verify that sort of thing. Sionk (talk) 19:09, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This is a really great question though. Especially if birth and census records repeatedly show the same birth date. I've used it to confirm birth and death dates for subjects before. Besides, where do we think secondary sources get their data? Generally someone digs it up from these sources. I think it'd be super cool to see a template for ancestry. But, c'est la vie. For now, I'd just try to link to the record if possible - use it sparingly. I'd rather have multiple primary sources that state a subjects birth and death dates, then none at all. SarahStierch (talk) 20:13, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:BLPPRIMARY. We shouldn't be using primary documents to support private personal details of living people. You have to make an assumption to link the correct documents (or document entry) with the correct person. That is WP:OR. Often it seems people don't even know what the source is. It is just 'stuff I found on Ancestry.com'. Sionk (talk) 01:48, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In regards to #2. I'm a bit confused, but, you can't really add any comments to the VIew History page, except in your "Edit summary," when you make your edits. You can leave comments on the talk page discussing your contributions. I'm not sure about the ASIN, perhaps someone else here knows? SarahStierch (talk) 20:14, 5 December 2012 (UTC) Sir/this article was not about me or a friend ,it was about a musician in our community.I do not think so this is cheating!Shirin Nezhadbahram (talk) 17:24, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Shirin ... ???

In regards to #2: I see that sometimes when an editor contributes or edits an article, on the "View History" page in ( ) and light gray, there are personal remarks as to why they made the edit ... that's what I'm trying to figure out how to do. Thanks.

Wikiguardpatrol (talk) 15:59, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Semi- protecting a page

Can only an administrator protect a page or users can too? (Libby995 (talk) 16:10, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Libby! Only administrators can place semi- or full-protection on a page, although most (not all) registered users can still edit a page that has been semi-protected. If you need to request the semi-protection of a page, you can ask at Requests for page protection, though you should read the guidelines about the purposes for which protection is and isn't used. Basically, semi-protection should only be used in cases of heavy, sustained disruption (almost always in the form of vandalism) of a page from many different IP addresses or brand-new accounts. Writ Keeper 16:18, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Are maintenance banners supposed to be added to the References section of an article?

Hi there, I'm in a bit of a dilemma- an IP user keeps on adding a Unclear Citation style banner and Lack of inline citations in the REFERENCES section of the Wonder Woman article. But the references section basically just lists all the refs and cites on the page, then why add these banner there. I removed it once, but the user added them again; is there really some issue that needs to be addresses? Thanks,WonderBoy1998 (talk) 15:51, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Wonderboy, welcome to the Teahouse! In general, I believe it's okay to put maintenance tags at the tops of sections as opposed to the top of the page when the tag only applies to the content of that section. I see why the IP is putting the tags where they are; the tags are highlighting problems with the referencing, so they're being placed in the references section. The "lacks inline citations" tag doesn't need to be on the article at all; there is no shortage of them (which is a good thing!) The "unclear citation style" as a little bit more reasonable, and I could see placing it in the References section (because that's where one would see the citation styles used), the top of the article (because it needs to be fixed within the ref tags throughout the article, not in the references section), or removing it altogether (because who cares?). Maybe that's just me, though. :) Writ Keeper 17:24, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) I was just bold and went ahead and removed both of them, actually. —Theopolisme 17:26, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How do I become better at what I do?

How do I become better at what I do? How do I improve? How do I get top ranking? EricEgo2012 (talk) 13:57, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi EricEgo2012; welcome to the Teahouse. There's no ranking system here at Wikipedia per se, although with considerable effort you might make it onto Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits (you'll need over 1.2 million edits if you want to knock Koavf off the top spot, though!). If you want to improve your editing, however, I'd suggest that you may want to consider requesting adoption from a more experienced user, who can help you learn the ropes. Yunshui  14:06, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
To get better, find something that needs doing that you enjoy; and listen to the feedback from other editors. Without knowing you and what you enjoy, that could be anything from WP:Articles for Creation, WP:Articles for Deletion, WP:New Page Patrol, WP:WikiProject Countering systemic bias, something else completely, or a mix of everything. I'm in the top couple of thousand on the Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits, and it's nothing to write home about, it just happened because I was having fun doing stuff that was useful. Note that even getting to the top of that list doesn't give you any extra rights or magic powers: those come completely separate, unrelated, processes such as WP:Requests for adminship. Stuartyeates (talk) 02:14, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

I'd like to add a link to the references section of an article but cannot for the life of me work out how to do this.

I can see the references are contained in a reflink template but how do you add something to the list of links?

Am I being think? Probably? But cannot find anything in the help section that actually helps!

Many thanks

62.189.124.253 (talk) 11:50, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia uses a bit of coding to automatically generate lists of references - here's what you need to do:
  1. Open the page in the edit window and find the place in the article text where you want the citation to appear (usually, this will be immediately after the full stop at the end of the sentence your reference supports).
  2. At that point in the text, add your reference between two <ref></ref> tags, like this: <ref>http://www.randomexamplewebsitename.com</ref>
  3. Save the page. Assuming there's a {{Reflist}} template already on it (if not, put one at the bottom of the page), you'll see a small superscript numeral at the place where you placed the citation, and the full reference in the footnotes.
Hope this helps; see Help:Citing sources for more information. Yunshui  11:59, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I think I've got it now!
Is it possible to edit how the link appears in the References section though?

62.189.124.253 (talk) 12:07, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The {{Reflist}} template will display whatever you put in between the <ref> tags, so that's where you can change the appearance of the reference. There are a number of {{Cite}} templates you can use to format the reference; {{cite web}} for websites, {{cite book}} for books and so on. Yunshui  12:43, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Images of human poop

I am NOT a troll, but just curious, what was the exact rationale behind why they decided not to have any images of human faeces on the human faeces page? They have pictures of noses in nose, pictures of people picking noses in nose picking, and LOTs more gross stuff which I would not like to talk much about (hehe). Anyway, why? I would love to add in images of human poop in the human faeces page, to make the page more informative and encyclopedic. (Note that even the main Faeces article has pictures of animal poop. So what's wrong with pictures of human dung? Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 11:39, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Bonkers. This was a really interesting question to wake up to . The answer would be, I really don't know. If you go on the article's talk page, you can find a list of wiki-projects that support the article; perhaps you could ask at one of their talk pages or on the article's talk page. There was just a discussion (as a matter of fact it may still be ongoing, I didn't participate, I just heard about it) regarding another similar query, so I imagine the result of that one will influence what happens should you raise the point here. Go Phightins! 11:44, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'd guess the principle of least astonishment would be at least partially responsible. Plus, how would an image increase readers' understanding? Unless we have some seriously anally retentive readers, anyone in the world can see an example of human faeces just about every day of their lives, if they so choose... Yunshui  11:49, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
True that, but Yunshui, your statement is based on the assumption that anyone knows how human poop looks like. (On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog, so... A dog just might me viewing the human poop page to find out how human poop looks like?) Whether one knows how human dung looks like is besides the point. The point is, added images of human poop would enhance the quality of the article. (And yup, not forgetting the "seriously anally retentive" readers. Anyway, I will post the question on relevant talk pages soon. Thank you! Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 11:58, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Answering Tea house question

except the host can anyone answer Tea house question?-pratyya (talk) 10:15, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

list of pages

hello, How can I find the list of pages that I created on Wikipedia Trabelsiismail (talk) 20:37, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

...moved from my talk page.

I'm not sure, let's ask at the Teahouse. heather walls (talk) 20:44, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Trabelsiismail. Welcome to the Teahouse. There is a line at the top of your screen with several things listed on it. One of them is titled "contributions". Click that and you will get a list of all your contributions. Alternately, on the left side of the screen is a list of links. If you click on "special pages", you will get another long list of links. Under "User and Rights" you will find a link to "User contributions". That will get it for you too. These links will get you everything yo have done under your username, except for postings to articles that have been deleted. Gtwfan52 (talk) 21:04, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Hello Trabelsiismail, and welcome to The Teahouse. To find the articles you have created, click the word "Contributions" at the top of the page. That will show you a list of every edit you have made. At the bottom of that page is a link that says "Articles created". Click that, and you'll get to see every page you have created. Does that help? --Jayron32 21:05, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

user page

hi how can i check if I've created a user page or an article page? Should it say it somewhere on the new page I've created? 77.76.77.160 (talk) 15:19, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, 77, welcome to the Teahouse! Yes, it will indicate it in the title of the page. If it's a user page, the title will start with "User:", whereas if it's an article page, it won't have anything like that. As another example, the title to this page is "Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions"; the "Wikipedia:" bit at the front means that this page is within the "Wikipedia" namespace, which we use for policy pages and discussions about the project. Does that help? Writ Keeper 15:25, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, 77. You haven't created anything on this IP except for this question. Gtwfan52 (talk) 20:55, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Double check that you're logged in--then you can just go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/YOURUSERNAME to see a list of everything you've created/edited, including pages. —Theopolisme 00:09, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What is the difference between images uploaded to Wikimedia commons and Wikipedia itself?

I am a new user and I still can't upload to Wikipedia directly but I can upload on Wikimedia commons. I am wondering whats the difference? Is it the same thing? Can I upload content that is not 'strictly' creative commons (eg. just found it on the net somewhere and the license is unclear)? ∞4 (talk) 11:06, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Inifini4, and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia and Commons are closely related, but they are separate sites that serve slightly different purposes. Commons is a free image repository; it can only store images that are available in the public domain or have been released under a free licence. Most of Wikipedia's images are drawn from Commons. If you created or photographed a picture yourself, or if you can prove that it is free to be reused, you should upload it to Commons.
It is also possible to upload images directly to Wikipedia. However, this is normally only done if the picture is not free or is otherwise unsuitable for Commons. Examples of such images would be company logos or screenshots of video games, which can be used under the fair-use guidelines (basically, where there is no possible free equivalent). Only autoconfirmed users (users with four days' presence and ten edits) can upload images to Wikipedia itself.
You cannot upload any image where the copyright is unclear, this goes for virtually anything you find on the web (Google images etc.).
I hope that helps clear things up! Yunshui  11:14, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
If the image is free or you created it, you can upload it to Wikimedia Commons right now, and it will become immediately available for use in Wikipedia. If it isn't free, but you believe it may be suitable for upload to Wikipedia, you can file a request at Files for upload. Either way, although it's unusual for an account to be granted confirmed status purely for an image upload, you should file a request at Requests for permissions if you want to be confirmed early. Yunshui  11:42, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the quick responses. Actually the image is not strictly free, its a corporate logo. But, I guess, ill request confirmation anyway, cause I haven't recovered from my adrenaline rush that I got today for my first ever edit - I am all PUMPED and can't wait. :D — Preceding unsigned comment added by Infiniti4 (talkcontribs) 11:49, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely go via Files for upload, then. When you get to the "Other" part of the Upload Wizard, make sure you fill in all the fields carefully, especially the "Article To Be Used On/Reason For Upload" part. Yunshui  11:57, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(and have a read of the non-free content policy first; it's long, but it'll keep you legal!) Yunshui  11:58, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot. You are awesome. I gave you a kitten! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Infiniti4 (talkcontribs) 12:04, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello ∞4, I'd like to follow up on your final question, about where to upload images whose license is unclear. The simple answer is—neither place. We need to have clarity on the license, so that it can be on commons,if it qualifies with a free license, or on Wikipedia is not free, but meets the Wikipedia:Non-free content guidelines (sometimes, but not quite correctly, referred to as fair-use). Images where we cannot determine the license create all sorts of headaches, and will generally be deleted eventually, so best not to add them. Wikipedia takes copyright seriously, and while people upload things they find on the net somewhere every day, we delete such images whenever we find them. On a more positive note, I'm glad you are here, I'm glad you are pumped, and I love your user name.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 14:22, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Glad you liked my username. I have a question - So what if the owner of the image gives me explicit permission to use his image on Wikipedia? Under what 'license' does that fall into? (The image is copyrighted.) With just his permission, can I then upload it to Wikipedia? ∞4 (talk) 00:14, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, 4! That puts you on kinda shaky ground. If the image is a photograph, the owner of the copyright will have to be willing to release it under CC-BY-SA 3.0 License, the same license that all our writings are released under. It will then be free for anyone to use for any purpose, forever. If the image is a logo, you can upload it without a release for the limited purpose of illustrating an article about the organization that owns the copyright. That is called fair use. Hope this helps. Gtwfan52 (talk) 08:56, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Right now the link to my page is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gsunny.488. I would like to change this to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinay_Singh or atleast Is it possible to avoid the 'User:' characters from the link ?

Gsunny.488 (talk) 10:56, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vinay. Since you requested a change of username, your userpage is now located at User:Vinay Singh (your original userpage at User:Gsunny.488 is now a redirect). You cannot remove the "User:" prefix; this is the part of the title that locates your page in userspace, rather than the main article space. Yunshui  11:06, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Vinay! Note that the mainspace slot Vinay Singh is already occupied by an article about a footballer; if your page is not a formal article, it must have "User:" in front of it to keep it from being listed as an article. What you have now at User:Gsunny.488 would not be accepted as an article itself. I would suggest you read the guidelines What may I not have in my user pages? to make sure you don't break those rules. Your userspace can have some basic info about you in the context of your work on Wikipedia, but if it starts turning into a resume, or a "fake article" promoting yourself, it will be deleted. The things you should use the userpage for are found at What may I have in my user pages?. Hope this helps! MatthewVanitas (talk) 15:37, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I know that ctrl-click opens a link in a new tab. But can you put something in the code that makes it open in a new tab anyway? I really want this for my wikiversity editing rather than wikipedia so I hope the feature works for both, if there is one. (I tried putting in <a target="_blank"> .... </a> but it didn't work.) Droflet (talk) 10:50, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Droflet. There's no in-house script that does this, to the best of my knowledge (although you can set external links to always open in a new tab under My preferences>>Gadgets). However certain Firefox add-ons, like Tab Mix Plus, can force all links to open in new tabs; if you use Ff, that might be a road you could go down. Yunshui  11:02, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Yunshui. Thanks for the quick response. But what I want is to put in an occasional external (or internal) link so that when any user clicks on it it opens in a new tab. I am surprised there is no wiki-markup to do this. If there was, then a diagram, say, from an external web site could be displayed and the user could keep that open while flicking back and forth to the wiki page where there was a detailed description or commentary. Droflet (talk) 14:12, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I see what you mean. I doubt that would be possible - it's up to the reader and/or their owm browser configuration to decide how they open any given link. Yunshui  14:19, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's not possible; MediaWiki generates the anchor tags itself; it doesn't allow users to make their own. You can get more information about which HTML tags are allowed and which aren't at Meta. Probably for the best, really; if readers want to open things in a new tab, they can always ctrl-click it themselves. No real reason for us to force them to do so. Writ Keeper 14:30, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Writ Keeper, for the useful reference. I think that occasionally to have the ability to make a link open in a new page would be useful and, used judiciously, a benefit for the user. I am pretty sure it is mostly nerds like us who know about CTRL-click! Where should I make a request/suggestion for someone to implement an 'open-in-new-tab' enhancement to wikitext? Droflet (talk) 15:01, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You might be right about us nerds! :) Anyway, I would guess that one of the Village Pumps (perhaps Proposals, or maybe Technical) would be the way to go here, to figure out whether the community would agree with the need for it. If a consensus develops there, I think it can then be kicked to the devs. Writ Keeper 15:08, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It's been discussed there (and elsewhere) a number of times before... generally to no effect. Not suggesting you shouldn't try again, but be aware that others have trodden this path before and not really gotten very far. Yunshui  15:15, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Editing/adding new material to a controversial page as a new user

After years of consulting Wikipedia I decided to create an account with the hopes of contributing to an article. The article I am interested in editing is "Pro-life movements"-- obviously a contentious topic that has been semi-protected to avoid vandalism. After reading the article itself, I noticed that there is no discussion of how people join the movement (i.e., do activists join because of ideological beliefs, are they recruited by members of their social network, etc.). I have read the existing scholarly literature and think that the article would benefit from a new section which summarizes the literature. I decided to enter the 'Talk' section of the page and create a new topic, but I found that as a new user I was blocked from doing so. So my question is: how can I get in contact with those who have substantively contributed to an article in order to suggest a contribution? I know that I can gain editorial access myself by making 10 edits and holding an account for 4 days, but is there a way in which I can create a discussion with existing editors without editing anything myself? Cfordahl88 (talk) 20:25, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Cfordahl, welcome to the Teahouse! You can do a few things: one, you could make an edit request and just put it on your own user talk page. Two, you can ask at the permissions page for an admin to grant you the "confirmed" permission, which is the same thing that you'd normally get by waiting out the 4 days. Three, you could just ask here. :)
As for your suggested edits, I take it you're talking about the United States pro-life movement article? I'd suggest that that section might not be the greatest place to start. I'm not sure that the movement the article is discussion is a single organization that one can really join, so I'm not sure what your section would be talking about. Also, we have to be very careful about neutral point-of-view and encyclopedic interest here: a simple "how-to" of how to join a movement might not fit in an encyclopedic article, even if well-sourced, and it might not be possible to write such a section neutrally, especially if it discusses a specific organization within the broader movement. But I'd be interested to hear what others have to say about this; certainly don't take my word as gospel. :) Writ Keeper 20:33, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the speedy response Writ Keeper! I will follow your suggestions. A quick clarification on my suggested edit/addition: yes, I was talking about the United states pro-life movement article. Generally speaking (and I think the existing article itself corroborates this), I think one can 'join' the pro-life movement, as the movement itself is really just an aggregate of activist organizations (of diffuse tactics, etc.). The contribution I have in mind would summarize empirical research on the motivations of pro-life activists for joining the movement (or, if you prefer, becoming pro-life activists). Past research seemed to indicate that people joined the movement out of religious or political commitment. However, recent empirical work by the sociologist Zaid Munson indicates that joining the pro-life movement might more typically result from life course changes rather than firm ideological conviction (e.g., one moves to a new town and wants to make new friends and so joins a pro-life organization).

But your larger point is well taken--perhaps it is better as a novice to begin with a less controversial topic! Cfordahl88 (talk) 20:48, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Create math formulas

I am a first-time writer in Wikipedia. I am creating a new math article (content) titled Standard-Slope Ingegration and need to enter math formulas that I created using MS Word Equation Editor. How do I copy my formulas into my article (or reproduce them within my article) while working in my Sandbox? Also, am I creating this content in the right place? Will I be able to move it or submit it from here when finished?PeterJItalia (talk) 18:23, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Peter, welcome to the Teahouse. I'm no great shakes on editing maths articles but there do appear to be two ways to display formulas in article. The first is to use HTML for which you can find the codes (or symbols to cut and paste) at Wikipedia:Mathematical symbols. The second way is the use AMS-LaTex markup which you can find instructions at Help:Displaying a formula. From looking at maths articles it looks like AMS-LaTex is preferred but that doesn't stop you using HTML if you find that easier - it certainly looks easier to me! If you want specialist help on either of these I would suggest you ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics or the subpage dedicated to typography of maths articles at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics/Typography.
Creating your article at your sandbox is very much the right thing to do. When you are ready to move it into the main article namespace you can do so using the in built move function 200 and moving the article to the Article namespace with whatever name you want to give it. NtheP (talk) 20:04, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Issues on the RCCM page

Questioner is referring to Research Council for Complementary Medicine.

I expanded the RCCM page and attenpted to improve it, but it has the following banner at the top of the page

"This article needs more links to other articles to help integrate it into the encyclopedia. (October 2012) This article's use of external links may not follow Wikipedia's policies or guidelines. (October 2012) This article does not cite any references or sources. (November 2007)"


I am afraid I dont understand - there are lots of links to other articles! Can you help me with the external links? Why is the old dated 2007 still there as there are now references and sources in the article?

Sorry to ask such basic questions, all advice appreciated!

Ding47 Ding47 (talk) 18:00, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ding47, welcome to the teahouse! Don't worry, basic questions are easier than complicated questions :-)
When you fix a problem, it's fine to edit the page to remove the template (or part of it) as appropriate. At the moment, though, I would say the problem isn't yet fixed - for example the quite lengthy "First decade 1983 - 1993" section still doesn't have any wikilinks at all. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:04, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Ding47, welcome to the Teahouse. There is no need to apologize just for not understanding exactly, it is the process of learning. Anyway, the more links tag refers to the amount of links provide in your article to other articles, with WP:UNDERLINK and WP:OVERLINK in mind. It appears correct because the article does not provide many links to other articles at the English Wikipedia. In regards to the external links, it means that there are too many external links provided in the article itself that violate WP:ELNO and appear to read as an advertisement, which Wikipedia is not. I would suggest removing all of those external links, none of them are up for any good right now. But feel free to create an external links section, with the official website in it or something perhaps, that is fine, but you may wish to see WP:EL. The reference tag is there because no one has removed it, and updated it, you are welcome to remove it now, as there are references. Hope this helps, TBrandley 18:09, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
thanks for those comments, I am beginning to get it , will see what I can do to improve the page

Ding47 79.67.225.57 (talk) 19:14, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any way to acknowledge an edit wrongly identified as vandalism?

Hi, I accidentally reverted an edit by an IP user on the Wonder Woman article and wrongly identified it as vandalism. I had no intention of doing this- I wanted to simply see the edit made by the user and opened that 'comparison'/ difference between revisions page. I noticed some text in red written in front of the ip user edit title- "[rollback (VANDAL)]". As this was the first time I saw some text like this, out of curiosity i clicked on it and it reverted the entire edit by the IP user and even identified it as vandalism. Well I wanted to revert the edit made by the user but not identify it as vandalism as it really wasn't! It's not even letting me revert by actions, saying it has to be done manually- which I don't exactly want to do as I was going to revert the edit anyway. Is there anyway I can show that the IP user's edit was NOT VANDALISM. WonderBoy1998 (talk) 17:35, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi WonderBoy1998, welcome to the Teahouse! One option is to make a "null edit", i.e. make an edit adding a space, and then use the edit summary of that edit to note that the previous edit you reverted was not in fact vandalism.
Since it's a one-off and it sounds like you haven't left a "vandalism" warning for the other editor on their talk page, you could probably just leave it. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:44, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This has happened to me in the past, and I usually just write the other editor a note on their talk page, explaining that it was a mistake. Writ Keeper 18:06, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Or, that sounds like you have twinkle enabled, so just go back to your edit and click the middle, brown, rollback link and use it to revert your accidental rollback, explaining so in e edit summary. :) Hope this helps! gwickwiretalkedits 20:15, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Editing for Employer

I have been asked to completely revamp Herman Saatkamp's page. He is my employer. I have searched other College President pages and have tried to model after them. I used the edit option the first few times and everything was deleted. The next time I created an account and have established a Content box and referenced one name but received an e-mail saying that it has been changed by HostBot again. What can I do to retain the information I am trying to upload?

Thanks, HJSwiki (talk) 15:05, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello HJS, it appears the article previously existed (starting in 2005) but was full of copyright violations (WP:COPYVIO). That is, text cut-and-pasted from other sources rather than being written by an editor. Accordingly almost everything in the article has been blanked; the editor Drmies left you a message on your Talk page explaining this.
So far as improving the article, given that you work for Saatkamp, if you do edit it you must proceed very cautiously to avoid bias from your WP:Conflict of interest. Further note, since Saatkamp is currently living, for his protection we must insist on very strict sourcing requirements, so please don't add any information that can't be clearly sourced to somewhere reliable. Even if Saatkamp himself calls you into his office and says "I like reading Charles Dickens", you can't add that to the article unless it's been specifically noted in a WP:Reliable source somewhere.
If you want to contribute to the article, ensure everything is sourced as you add it in. WP:Referencing for beginners is a good place to check on formatting. Also note that official university bios are not preferred (except for basic things like date/place of birth) because they aren't formal publications and thus not subject to peer review, strict verification, etc. Feel free to post here if you make any new additions and want input, but anything you add must be a) sourced and b) written in your own words, not cut-and-pasted from a copyrighted source. MatthewVanitas (talk) 15:56, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Google search results - Knowledge Graphs - How to get content to feed into Google knowledge graphs

I was wondering what relationship there is between the content of a Wikipedia article and what appears in Google's knowledge graphs (here is a link to an article explaining what knowledge graphs are: http://searchenginewatch.com/article/2175783/Google-Launches-Knowledge-Graph-First-Step-in-Next-Generation-Search). I was also wondering why some topics produce a short summary from Wikipedia while others do not.

For instance, searching for the person "Joseph Daul" produces on the right of the search results a picture, a short excerpt from his Wikipedia article and his birth place and date. In contrast, searching for the person "Ingeborg Gräßle"(a page I have been working on) produces nothing on the right side.

Which are the variables that affect wheather or not content from Wikipedia will end up in a knowledge graph?

Thanks,

Stuart Stu18401 (talk) 12:52, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Stuart, thanks for stopping by the Teahouse. I can only give you my opinion which is that this is all down to Google's search algorithms and how much of a knowledge graph they have yet drawn up that includes the subjects in it. Take one of the examples in the video in the article you linked to and search for Leonardo Da Vinci - here you don't get the Wikipedia article on it's own but links to examples of his artworks and links to other Renaissance artists. That I suspect is a well constructed knowledge graph, Joseph Daul is less so, so there is more from one source i.e. Wikipedia showing and Ingeborg Gräßle is even less well developed so not front end graph has yet been generated. There is a Wikipedia article on this topic at Knowledge Graph but I guess we'll all have to see where it goes to in future. NtheP (talk) 20:37, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much for the help! Stu18401 (talk) 08:25, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How do you edit the page in Facebook to which Wikipedia is linked to?

Many Wikipedia articles have their own "page" in Facebook. However, there is no available option to change the category of the page (for example: Interest, Organization, etc), and the image added to the Wikipedia article does not appear automatically in the corresponding page.

Is there any way to edit this? Do I have to go through a certain process to get the image displayed on Facebook?

BigFatCake (talk) 11:25, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi BigFatCake, and welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia has no control over the content of Facebook - the two sites are not connected. Facebook users often copy Wikipedia content onto pages there, but that content is a one-time copy, not a live feed from Wikipedia. If you want to see changes to pages on Facebook, you will need to contact the Facebook users who maintain those pages - Wikipedia editors can't do anything about the content of other websites. Yunshui  11:38, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Yunshui, thank you very much for responding.
However, I have done some researching and am afraid you are mistaken. Facebook's "Community pages" take information directly from Wikipedia, and changes made to articles in Wikipedia automatically change these pages in Facebook as well. There is no person that is in charge of the page, so I cannot contact anyone requesting a change. I was simply curious why the picture I put up on the article was not directly impacting the community page that took information from the article, and what factors affected the "Community page"'s label as "interest, organization, school" and such.
BigFatCake (talk) 12:33, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That's interesting, I didn't know that. I assume there's some sort of Facebook app that lifts content from Wikipedia, in that case. I'd assume that an automated program would take data from Wikipedia periodically, so it may simply be that the Facebook page hasn't "caught up" yet, although not being much of a Facebooker myself I really couldn't say for certain. You might try asking for technical help at the Village Pump, but I suspect the only place you'll get a definitive solution is still going to be at Facebook's end. Yunshui  12:44, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the help, Yunshui! I appreciate it.
BigFatCake (talk) 14:55, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Template:HD/facebook is the standard reply when people ask about Facebook copies of Wikipedia articles. The Help Center link [1] worked in the past but not now. I haven't found a new page with the information they had there, but it didn't say anything about how to influence the content of the Facebook copy. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:18, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting Edits

How do you revert more than 1 edits, having a hard time with it? (Monkelese (talk) 06:05, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Monkelese. The easiest approach is to go into the page history and find the last good diff (before the changes you want to revert took place). Open that diff, and then attempt to edit the page normally by clicking on the "Edit" tab. You'll see a warning message notifying you that you're about to save an old version of the page; ignore it and save the page. This will replace the current (vandalised) version of the article with the older (unvandalised) version.
If you find yourself doing a lot of anti-vandalism work (and good on you if you do!) then you may want to consider installing Twinkle, and automated tool which allows you to revert multiple edits. You can also look into applying for rollback rights at some point in the future. Hope this helps, feel free to ask me if you need more exposition. Yunshui  08:36, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Good advice. It's probably worth adding that rollbacking (whether done with Twinkle or with the rollback user right) is intended to undo vandalism, not other edits. Sometimes there are valid reasons to undo a series of edits that aren't vandalism, and that should always be done manually in the way Yunshui described. Rivertorch (talk) 18:37, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can an article be added to a WikiProject while it is proposed for deletion?

I think the article should be reviewed by the Software WikiProject to have a balanced comparison with other software articles. BNVOTFQW (talk) 01:05, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is always possible to add a WikiProject's banner to an article's talk page, even if the article is being proposed for deletion. It is also possible to add a comment to the talk page of a given WikiProject regarding the article being proposed for deletion. It often is the case that the editors of that WikiProject will be able to contribute to the discussion regarding the article being proposed for deletion. That would allow the editors who are involved in that topic to know about the proposed deletion, and possibly either maybe help find sources if they know of them to establish the notability of the subject, perhaps propose a merger to another article if they believe that the better option, or in some cases indicate why they believe that the article in question might not be appropriate for wikipedia. John Carter (talk) 01:21, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks you for the explanation. BNVOTFQW (talk) 03:25, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This should be encouraged, and (in my opinion) be done by the nominator, particularly if no WikiProjects are associated with the article at that time. Adding articles means that if any article alerts are set up, the article will be listed there (normally transcluded within WikiProject pages) automatically. -- Trevj (talk) 16:19, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Translating a page

I wanted to translate an existing (Russian) page into English because there's no English equivalent. What are the rules regarding this? Would I be able to simply translate all the info from the Russian page? Would I be able to use pictures from the Russian Wikipedia page without a problem? Can I cite sources that are not in English that are approved for the Russian Wikipedia?

Anyone who has any information on translating pages from other wiki's would be appreciated! I'm kind of new to this.

Geeeeklove (talk) 19:21, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Geeeeklove. Welcome to the Teahouse. If you'd like to translate a page from another Wikipedia project, you might start by reading the basic advice here. See also Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia for information about proper attribution under Wikipedia's content licenses. Before you start, you may want to check that the topic of the article meets the notability requirements of the English Wikipedia. Many images can be reused on multiple wikis; if the image file is hosted at Wikimedia Commons, it's probably okay. While English-language sources are preferred and it would be inadvisable to use only foreign-language sources, some Russian sources would be acceptable. If you speak Russian fluently and can confirm that the sources do support the content in question, that's a plus. I'm sure others will have more detailed advice, but I hope this helps get you started. Good luck! Rivertorch (talk) 19:47, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Geeeeklove, welcome to the Teahouse. Translation of pages from other wikis is fine. There are a few guidelines:
  • it's preferable not to use machine translation
  • you don't have to translate absolutely everything
  • you must attribute the Russian wiki article in your edit summary and add the {{translated article}} template on the talk page
  • write in the style that suits this wiki not the Russian wiki if there are differences
  • check the pictures out - many of the images used on the Rusian wiki are already on Wikimedia Commons so they can be used freely. if they aren't they can be copied to this wiki but the licences need to be appropriate to this wiki.
Hope you enjoy editing and please come back and ask. NtheP (talk) 19:59, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Defining "Original Research".

I have read the guidelines on this, but it still seems unclear. Does not being able to use original research mean that I myself cannot be the person doing the original research, or that I cannot use original research as a reference? If I am to take the guidelines on this at face value, it sounds like I can only use as references, a summary article on the topic (or an excerpt from one) written by a credible source. If so, what is a credible source? I noticed some contentious content where the source is a blog by someone I never heard before that is not affiliated with group that is credible. How would I protest on such basis without getting into a "war"? Also, are court documents acceptable when refering to a factual statement, or do I have to find an article about the topic refering to that document? Also, what if the reference is a book, or material, that is not easy to obtain (eg it only exists in the Library of Congress)? Can a reference be directed at that or does one have to find a link of a copy avaiable on the net?Patwinkle (talk) 10:28, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Patwinkle, an a very warm welcome to da Teahouse. 1. What defines a "credible source"? Simple! Read this! 2. If you feel that the sources are "contentious", just voice out your opinion somewhere (like talk pages), or you could boldly remove them (with a valid reason, of course.) 3. Court documents can be considered credible and can be used as references. (One example of its usage: Trial of Michael Jackson) 4. References need not be found online, offline sources are also okay. (etc. books, newspapers) There is no need for an internet equivalent.
Hope this helps and happy editing. ;) Cheers! Bonkers The Clown (Nonsensical Babble) 12:47, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Patwinkle, there are two aspects to this, firstly the sources used and secondly the reliability of those sources. Wikipedia is not a publisher of primary research, therefore preferred sources are those that review, discuss, comment upon primary evidence in other words secondary sources. There are occasions when primary sources can be used but they are limited. Reliable sources are those where they can be "trusted" so news organisations, academic journals are examples of reliable sources, blogs aren't. The sources should also be independent of the topic - this isn't so much about the reliability of the source but about maintaining a neutral point of view. As Bonkers has said if you think a source isn't credible then you should start by discussing your concerns on the article talk page explaining why think they aren't credible and suggesting alternatives. Court documents can be used if as you state they are supporting a merely factual statement - for example establishing the existence of a court case. References do not have to be available online, paper documents are fine as long as they can be read somewhere should someone wish to do so. NtheP (talk) 17:14, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Good question. WP:SOURCEACCESS speaks of material in print in libraries for instance. Noticeboards such as Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard and Wikipedia:No original research/Noticeboard grapple with such questions when specific instances of differences of opinion arise. Bus stop (talk) 17:39, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks all, this was helpful. Patwinkle (talk) 07:13, 3 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

another user interfering.

hi there, there's a page i used to edit. but there's a user who keeps on reverting my edited data (even if i provide the reference). i want to know how to block or report a user for vandalism or these type of acts.?Anidemun (talk) 07:14, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Anidemun. Welcome back. If you could provide a link to the page you are concerned about, we will be better able to help you with your question. Gtwfan52 (talk) 07:22, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollywood_films_of_2013Anidemun (talk) 07:55, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Anidemun, as far as I can tell the other editor appears to object to your including the statement and reference that Bollywood is 100 years old in 2013. Now it's only been removed once with the edit summary "Wrong details added", so it's difficult to say if it's a disagreement with the factual accuracy of your statement or that they think you've added it in the wrong place/article. Either way your first action should be to try and discuss it with the other editor either on their talk page or on the article talk page. What you are experiencing is a content dispute so when you discuss it please avoid using words like vandalism. Vandalism on Wikipedia has a specific meaning and "is any addition, removal, or change of content in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia" - I don't see the other editors action as meeting this definition, so you must assume that they are acting in good faith and work on that basis. If you cannot resolve this by discussion then there are further steps that can be taken but you must try and resolve it at as lower level as possible first. NtheP (talk) 09:39, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

editor retention

Are there any empirical studies regarding the Wikipedia mechanisms that encourage editors to stay and/or drive them away?

Specifically, I'm wondering whether an automated invitation to participate in something called "the Teahouse" has been shown to affect the likelihood that an editor returns; and, if so, how?

Twentyfour-dot-something (talk) 04:12, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Twentyfour-dot-something, welcome to the Teahouse. There certainly are metrics about editor retention, you can find the most recent relating to the Teahouse at meta:Research:Teahouse/Phase 2 report/Metrics. NtheP (talk) 09:49, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Request Expert Views MOST URGENT

(larger post removed by another editor, in regards to the repeated deletions of the published version of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Hradyesh by User:Aaanshu).

Experts please help me get my article live ...

'Bot and admin warnings

Removing Speedy at Hradyesh

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for taking the time to contribute.

I'm a bot designed by another Wikipedia editor, and I'm here to help you with our deletion process. I noticed that while working on an article recently, you removed a speedy deletion template that tagged it for deletion. Don't get discouraged! Deletion discussions happen on Wikipedia all the time.

If you don't want the article to get deleted, please click here.

The link will take you to the talk page, where you can explain why the article should be kept. If you have any questions about this or need help with editing, you can ask at the Help desk.

We really hope you'll stick around to help make Wikipedia better! Thank you, - SDPatrolBot (talk) 20:09, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add soapboxing, promotional or advertising material to Wikipedia, as you did at Hradyesh, you may be blocked from editing. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:10, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • The point about preparing a draft of an article in a sandbox is so you can get it into suitable shape there ready top become an article. It is not so that you can write the same kind of promotional crap that you have been told over and over again is not suitable to be a Wikipedia article. We are not interested in being told that someone is "a passionate individual", nor are we interested in seeing "references" to press releases, promotional web sites, and write-ups in newspapers of press releases. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:23, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • And it is not "just one administrator who seems too had a bad day" If you look at the deletion log Hradyesh, you will see that it has been deleted by four different administrators—all for the same reason: Your page is exclusively promotional, and would need to be fundamentally rewritten to become encyclopedic. —teb728 t c 22:17, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Aaanshu, a few things:

  • If you are concerned your article is at risk of deletion, we strongly advise you let the "Articles for Creation" process run its course. You chose instead to directly publish your article by placing it in the main article space, where it was deleted. If instead you waiting for volunteers to review it and offer advice, it would not be published until ready, and would be very unlikely to be deleted.
  • According to the records at Hradyesh, no fewer than four different admins have deleted your attempts at publishing the article. I would suggest that indicates a general agreement it was inappropriate, over the course of some eight months.
  • While I don't agree with James B. Watson's choice of words, his overall point was correct, that it is not appropriate to repeatedly submit a promotional article, especially after being told why it's inappropriate. His language could have been better, I agree.
  • The Teahouse did not endorse your article, it was you that chose to publish it. I offered some structural improvements and suggestions. If you are concerned about possible deletion, you should not move an article into articlespace, but instead leave it at AfC or in your sandbox until other editors advise you it is ready.
  • Looking at the article, is is rather promotional, but not horrendously so. The writing could use some work to remove promotional tone. Looking at the References, one of them is to Wikipedia itself (you can't cite Wikipedia on Wikipedia, that's circular logic), the one at the Telegraph is a press release (so no real credibility), etc. Some of them are to car enthusiast sites I'm not familiar, so no opinion on those. The one from the Times of India is literally a tweet-like mobile phone posting by a columnist, so really not worth citing. Overall, a lot of the articles seem very similar in nature, so it doesn't give the impression so much of a wide body of coverage as of a press release that's been re-spun in slightly different ways. I'm not an expert on car sourcing, but at least a portion of the sourcing does not contribute to the strength of the article.
  • Fundamentally, I would strongly suggest you read WP:Neutrality, and take a very hard look at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Hradyesh and ask yourself "what in this article could possibly be seen as advertising rather than simple fact?" Also, it's not really cricket to put in photos of the cars which don't even include Hradyesh, as that makes it look like you're advertising cars vice describing a person.

A few things to consider. Again, James was a bit brusque, but people tend to get annoyed if they feel someone is trying to "force" an article forward and ignoring critique and advice about it. We here at the Teahouse can help you with the article, but you need to understand that there are legitimate concerns about its promotional presentation and the quality of sourcing, and not simply "one person" in a bad mood. MatthewVanitas (talk) 07:01, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Matthew , This is exactly what I am trying to understand

1. If you have an access request to plz check all the earlier versions and you will agree about the correction made after understanding the raised concerns.

2. This time I was working on my sandbox and requested for an article creation post which I searched my request in the pending AFC segment where I could not find the same thinking I did something wrong I posted the same content on the article project page. Thats how the entire problem started.

3. I tried to not use the earlier termed promotional language and focusing on the work and sole reason why the person should be featured in this article. i.e. introduction of Hot rods to India , Morris street and all India roadshow. Jus to make sure the article should not be termed as promotion I clearly mentioned the car is not available for sale but this car is India’s first street Rod.

4. I had filtered the list of references limiting only to leading newspapers or auto publications and can further filter the same.

5. In this learning I had come across n number of individual articles which are neither backed by any references , supported by press releases or article was just of 2 or 3 lines still these article exist in wikipedia and such speedy deletion don’t get actioned on them. To my surprise I saw one article where even James visited but not speedy deleted the article so why this double standard view points?

6. The point of my concern is at one side my article is just deleted in fraction of seconds for the claimed promotional language at the same time other articles do exist based on the same outline why those are not still not speedy deleted ?

7. Theres a code of conduct for articles and new users Is there any code of conduct for “expert”, “senior” administrators having years n years or experience on the usage of there language and behavior ?

8. I am reiterating the fact here m learning to publish my first article , yes it got speedy deleted earlier after which I again tried to correct it but this time I feel there was a scope of correction , there was scope to improve it as per the required standards if some one had a different view on the topic. Just speedy deleting the post in fraction of seconds isn't that just showing off of someones rights n powers? The way administrator responded n have opted to use the words is that acceptable at wikipedia ?

I am not here to annoy anyone but this kind of treatment by admin is not encouraging at all. This is my first article and i need to finish it in a proper manner m not asking to wave off any guidelines just requesting to help me learn .

How should I restart -in my sandbox or should I place a request at AFC ?

Aaanshu (talk) 08:06, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Aaanshu. I have theory that might explain why you are having such problems: Are you perhaps Hradyesh himself, someone closely connected with him, someone who works for him, or someone commissioned to write an article about him? The reasons I think that may be the case is that in your 9 months at Wikipedia this is the only article you have worked on; you say it is “MOST URGENT” to get the article live; and you seem unable to recognize how promotional your writing is. The reason the question is important is that we have found it necessary to create a guideline, Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, because based on experience people like that have great difficulty recognizing promotional writing and assessing whether the subjects are important enough to have an encyclopedia article.
In any case I suspect that there may be a problem with your current draft that is greater than promotion. I really don’t understand why Hradyesh is important enough to have an encyclopedia article. Do I understand correctly that you think that the thing that qualifies him is that he introduced of hot rods to India? If that is what makes him important, I am sorry to say that he is not important enough for an article. Please see Wikipedia:Notability (people) for our notability guideline. —teb728 t c 09:46, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Teb for the response , with ref. to the shared theory I am an automobile passionate and after knowing about Hradyesh work which is starting of a new league in Indian automobile industry. As there was no information available on wikipedia want to contribute on the topic . In the past months whenever I can get time to write on wikipedia I try to work on this. I never rushed into anything the only thing why raised the alarm yesterday as "Most urgent" cos the article was speedy deleted and I wanted to get it retrieved to understand the concerns n make the necessary corrections.

with reference to the notability part I am quoting the wikipedia guideline under which I am working on this article: "Scientists, academics, economists, professors, authors, editors, journalists, filmmakers, photographers, artists, architects, engineers, and other creative professionals The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors. The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory or technique. The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, that has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews."

If there are other people from different international region who are part of wikipedia profile just because they are part of hot rod , custom cars segment, my article hold significant notable credential work and reason too not only for introducing this concept in India but also making first street rod in India and the All India roadshow etc.

As you correctly repeated my words I am trying to learn writing on wikipedia - I cant start something new leaving my first article in between.The whole point here is how I can correct and proceed further to the next level on which I am seeking assistance from all the experts.

Aaanshu (talk) 14:14, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Aaanshu, you have a draft article still at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Hradyesh so you can work on that. Ignore what you are seeing in other articles that you think are deficient and concentrate on the advice you have been given - find independent reliable sources about this person and use those. NtheP (talk) 10:04, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It isn't clear why there is Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Hradyesh as well as Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Hradyesh. The latter would be the usual place for the AFC. There will be confusion if the two continue in parallel, so I suggest that you make sure that the latest version is at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Hradyesh and that you blank the other version and get it deleted. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:10, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Clarifications

Thanks Nthep , I ‘ll restart working on the same. Request to please clarify on the following :

  1. Should I directly edit the page Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Hradyesh ?
  2. Or Should I copy the same on my sandbox and further edit ?
  3. Is it recommended to start with a stub and then further add information on the article?
  4. I will further filter the language to eliminate any reflection of promotional article and edit the linked references. Do I need to focus on some other stuff too?

Thanks again for all the assistance. Aaanshu (talk) 12:37, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep it all in one place. Don't start a sandbox page, don't start a stub in mainspace, just work on the AFC page. NtheP (talk) 13:13, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How to add image in Wikipedia?

Page Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Kapil_Srivastava

Also, guide me on how to add image, the image url options are as follows:

1) http://kapilguitarist.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/state-award-from-education-chief-minister.jpg

2) http://kapilguitarist.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/kk.jpg

3) http://kapilguitarist.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/kk2.jpg

I have my article typed in Word and I just need help in setting it up in the Sandbox

I have all of the words highlighted that I went to become links.

I also need help in putting my references in.Ahlia.turner (talk) 00:31, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ahlia, welcome to the Teahouse! Firstly, thanks very much for your efforts to create a new article on Wikipedia. In order to place your writing in a sandbox, you simply create "User:Ahlia.turner/Sandbox" and you can place your work in there. There should also be a link at the top of Wikipedia, on the right hand side, to obtain it easier. In regards to the references, please see WP:CITE and learn further from that. But, basic information on references: add a <ref> tag to the start of where you would like you reference to be in the article or sandbox. Then, use {{cite web}} or something like that, and use the required parameters, which are the author(s), title, URL, work/publisher, publication date, and access date. Again, see more at WP:CITE. Now, to your question about links, you simply add [[ to the start, and then place your word to link, then ]] at the end. This will create a blue link if the article in question exists. Good luck with your article. Hope this helps, TBrandley 00:44, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Ahlia, and welcome to the Teahouse. You should be aware that there are sometimes some problems when you cut and paste from Word to Wikipedia. Sometimes some of the hidden formatting information contained in Word will be copied and show up as characters once you paste it into Wikipedia. Not much you can do about it now, but be aware of it and clean up afterwards. In the future you might find it better to use an unformatted word processor like Notepad. Gtwfan52 (talk) 06:50, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of a article ends the long period of time already spend on Wikipedia

I found that many times when a person honestly creates articles and does not like the previous name and he is called as sock puppet by you and deletion of his articles is a great loss to him or not. Please explain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajkumartundak (talkcontribs) 14:29, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm new so maybe I can afford to be blunt (a courtesy I expect others to extend to me). If you are talking about an article you created, and it was in English, it's probably because you need to master the language a little better. If it was written anything like you just did, it is horrible. Maybe you should try writing that article in your own language first, then try to find a way to translate it better. Otherwise, I'm sure it was a worthwhile topic.Patwinkle (talk) 10:10, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Any use of multiple accounts is always viewed with suspicion. Come clean. Tell us the title of the deleted article and tell us your previous user names and we will tell you to what extent you are guilty of sock puppetry. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:34, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

When my Article goes LIVE?

Hi! Earlier I was posted question about my article's media files has been deleted. that one can be found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive_55#My_media_file_has_been_nominated_for_deletion_.26_some_are_deleted

and I got several questions answered, thanks for the all information given by hosts. and one answer given by hosts said I can add media files after my article goes live, but until now its only a AFC, so I want to know when my article goes live and what are the necessity to full fill?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/St._Mary%27s_College,_Chilaw

Thanks Hasiwarna (talk) 08:32, 2 December 2012 (UTC)HasiwarnaHasiwarna (talk) 08:32, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back to the Teahouse. I see that Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/St. Mary's College, Chilaw is still an AFC which hasn't been submitted for review. At some stage you deleted the box that tells you how to submit when you are ready for review. It obviously isn't ready at the moment as you don't have any references, so please read WP:Referencing for beginners. In general any statement in Wikipedia needs to be able to be verified, so you should provide citations. When you have added references for the content you have added, you can submit for review. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:10, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How to edit article main title?

Hi I am a first time editor and submitted an article but would like to edit the title. I have named it Ballet Nimba when in fact it needs to be corrected to Ballet Nimba as this is the name of a performing arts company. How do I do this? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.183.128.66 (talk) 13:46, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and welcome to the Teahouse. I have moved the page for you (if you logged into your account, you would be able to do this yourself, but you can't as an IP), it's now at Ballet Nimba. There are a few formatting and content issues, which I'll take care of shortly (to create an internal link, enclose the term in square brackets like [[this]]. Putting '''three inverted commas''' instead renders the text in boldface. See the markup help page for more details). Yunshui  13:57, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

English Proofreader wanted!

SOLVED!

Hello Wikipedians!
I just arrived on the english wikipedia and I'm writing a new article. The problem is, my english gramma is not perfect. So I'm looking for a person who can lend me a hand and checkt it for me.
Greetings Captain Miles (talk) 22:49, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Miles!

I'd be glad to proofread your article. Cheers, Kevin12xd... | speak up | take a peek | email me 03:24, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I now have two people who are helping me. Thank you very much! Captain Miles (talk) 13:15, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to article

Am a new editor here. Yesternight i spent some 1.5hrs to edit and add relevent information to a biographical article and also provided the references.Not 24 hrs since i made the edits and that article is once again as as same as it was before i edited it.Is there no way i can avoid this happening? This was quite discouraging to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Assassinatora (talkcontribs) 14:47, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Assassinatora. Welcome to the Teahouse. I assume the article you're referring to is Aditya Shrivastava. If you look at the history of the article, you'll see that your changes are still intact; no one has edited the article since you. Try clearing the cache on your browser and see if that helps. (By the way, your changes look mostly fine, but the india-forums.com reference doesn't look like a reliable source). Rivertorch (talk) 19:07, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong place for image suitability question?

I have a question about copyrights. I wasn't sure where to ask. I've been on WP for a while but one of my weaknesses as an editor has been in getting uploaded images to stick. Recently, while researching the Nakba, I found that a historian claimed he had a leaflet dropped in July 1948 that he further claimed as proof that the term "Nakba" had its origins in Israeli propaganda. [2] If such a document exists, I think it would be valuable documentation of his claim. So - where can I find out ahead of time if there are any copyright concerns or how to address other provenance concerns about this document? I appreciate your help. ClaudeReigns (talk) 18:13, 5 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How do I create a new article without it automatically going to the review request queue?

Hello. I've been away from Wikipedia a couple of years, and now I'm back and I've started to create new articles again. Only when I'm finished, now the articles seem to automatically go to a review request queue. They didn't do this before and I'm not sure how to skip it. I let it go the first time because I thought it was a good idea. Things might have changed and I was making mistakes. But it went through okay, so it seems a waste of resources. The reviewer left a note saying: 'Note that because you are a logged-in user, you can create articles yourself, and don't have to post a request.' But how?

Clicking on the link the reviewer left for me (Wikipedia:Starting an article) left me more bewildered than before. I thought that's what I'd been doing.

My most recent new article in the queue is here. Why did it automatically go to the queue? What do I do to just post it online?

Thank you. Penguin2006 (talk) 00:04, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, welcome back! The easiest way to create a new article is to enter the name in the search bar, and it should say "You may create the page "Name of Page", but consider checking the search results below to see whether the topic is already covered." Click on the name, and you'll see an empty edit box, where you can type your article.
Another way is to move the page (as shown in the picture), choose namespace (Article) and the name of the article (Henry Musgrave), and click move. -- ypnypn (talk) 03:18, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]