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Billy Garland (Ex Black Panther) was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 07 January 2012 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Tupac Shakur. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

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Hologram Tupac

The 'hologram' of Tupac has a common name on the internet, and that should be a redirect to the Legacy subsection, or to a 'posthumous career' bit, or something specifically about the Coachella appearance.
Also, some links:

~ender 2012-07-12 17:20:PM MST

TUPAC DISS by W.Y.K.O.P.

recently tupac got dissed by WYKOP SQUAD Wykop - Diss na Tupaca — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.193.246.183 (talk) 19:56, 15 August 2012 (UTC) 2pac is the Greatest of All Time![reply]

Edit request on 22 August 2012

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This stuff was inexplicably removed [1] can someone restore it in a Television section, like Britney article?? 108.244.65.167 (talk) 10:16, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a conflict of interest or did you mean to use the template for edit requests of semi-protected articles? User:King4057 20:19, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think he meant to use the template to request an edit to the page. 166.147.123.24 (talk) 12:52, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 13:43, 30 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was no consensus to move the page, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 21:30, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tupac Shakur → Tupac

– COMMONNAME Երևանցի _talk 01:42, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

His is more commonly know simply as "Tupac" than "Tupac Shakur". Google search results are:

"tupac" 45,000,000 results
"tupac shakur" 10,600,000 results

"Tupac" has 4 times more results than "Tupac Shakur" and Wikipedia requires pages to be named by their most common name.--Երևանցի _talk 01:42, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support per above. Hot Stop (Edits) 13:35, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Google searches for "Tupac" are not unambiguous. They include every source that includes "Tupac Shakur", the "Tupac Amaru", etc. Every book on the topic introduces him by his full name. Michael Eric Dyson uses Tupac Shakur in the title of the definitive book on the subject. Recognizability, Precision, and Clarity all are served by keeping "Tupac Shakur" as the title. Holla if ya hear me! SLawsonIII (talk) 18:35, 6 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose; we use full names except where reliable sources overwhelmingly prefer the mononym. Cf. Madonna vs Beyoncé Knowles. SLawsonIII is absolutely correct about the unreliability of Google searches, and I further point out that the raw numbers of "results" reported by Google are absolutely and completely meaningless (at least once you get into four or five figures). Googling "tupac -shakur" (hiding results that include the surname) actually increases the number of reported "results" over simply "tupac" alone. That not only defies common sense, it's mathematically impossible. Powers ^T 02:14, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Tupac does not refer to the musician exclusively, we need not look further than Tupac to see that. Straight results by no means take into account reliable source.--Labattblueboy (talk) 04:58, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Half Suport he is best known as 2Pac, so it should be that, right? K. (talk) 19:53, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed move

Shouldn't the page be moved to "2Pac" as that was his official stage name and what he was & is best known as? KANE 20:38, 29 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As long as both Tupac and 2Pac are both disamb pages which link up to his full real name, then I have no issues with his main article being listed under his full name. It's not that hard to figure out, even if you only know him by his stage name. I suspect his full name is listed in album notes (but don't have one on-hand to verify).

~ender 2012-10-11 2:19:AM MST — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.17.34.119 (talk)

Edit request on 27 October 2012

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In the infobox where it saids years active it saids 1988–1996 that is wrong and it should say 1990–1996 because he started rapping in 1990.99.137.149.253 (talk) 20:02, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]