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Requested move

– The above star articles are named in contradiction to WP:SUPSCRIPT. I attempted to relocate Zeta¹ Antliae and Zeta² Antliae, but was blocked because a redirect already exists. Hence, I'm requesting administrative assistance.
– This issue was discussed at the WikiProject Astronomical objects talk page. There are more such star articles in need of renaming, but the required subst template only allows 30 entries. Hence I'll have to submit the others separately. After the articles are moved, I plan to apply {{DISPLAYTITLE}} templates appropriately and edit the star names inside the articles. Thank you. Regards, RJH (talk) 14:39, 9 July 2012 (UTC) RJH (talk) 14:39, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I don't think this is an analogous case as the view in these cases was that X²: The Threat and Alien³ were only stylizations and not the real names of the entities in question. In this case the view, as far as I know, is that the superscripted forms are the correct and real forms of the names. Spacepotato (talk) 22:50, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: The problem with using DISPLAYTITLE in this way is that the mangled, non-superscripted form of the name is still visible to the user in many circumstances, for example, in the title bar, or when he hovers over a link like Gamma1 Caeli.
If the Mediawiki option $wgRestrictDisplayTitle were set to false, it would be possible to leave the articles where they are, but to use DISPLAYTITLE to display an HTML superscript to the user in the article itself instead of a Unicode superscript. This would deliver a uniformly better user experience as it would display a Unicode superscript when hovering or in the title bar and an HTML superscript elsewhere.
Unfortunately, this appears to be technically impossible as it appears that $wgRestrictDisplayTitle has been set to true. This means that an expression such as {{DISPLAYTITLE:Mu<sup>2</sup> Cancri}} can only be used on an article named Mu2 Cancri. Therefore, using a Unicode superscript in the article title makes displaying an HTML superscript in the article title impossible.
These issues only affect titles and links. HTML superscripts can be used in the article bodies in any case. Spacepotato (talk) 22:50, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
We wouldn't be able to apply such a solution to Pi4 Orionis because there doesn't seem to be a Unicode equivalent. Possibly we could fiddle around with the CSS settings and make something more presentable, like Pi4 Orionis (using <sup style="vertical-align: 0.5em; font-size: 0.6em;">). Regards, RJH (talk) 23:09, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Unicode does have all 10 possible superscripted digits; here they are:
π⁰ π¹ π² π³ π⁴ π⁵ π⁶ π⁷ π⁸ π⁹
And, for comparison, superscripted digits using HTML:
π0 π1 π2 π3 π4 π5 π6 π7 π8 π9
Spacepotato (talk) 23:23, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. In that case, we're back at WP:SUPSCRIPT. Thank you. Regards, RJH (talk) 23:35, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
WP:SUPSCRIPT is a guideline for article text, not titles. I agree that HTML superscripts should be used in the article text. However, in the title, using Unicode superscripts can be helpful as it can display a correctly superscripted name in the title bar, URL, and link hover text. Spacepotato (talk) 23:57, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per WP:SUPSCRIPT and that the Unicode characters cause problems with certain font sets, which do not include the full range of superscripts, and would result in better and consistent search results across more search engines. I'm not sure if MOS:TM applies, since these aren't commercial products/entities, but that seems to recommend we use standard digits instead of unicode superscripts. -- 70.49.127.65 (talk) 00:35, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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