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No reason to delete this... it just had a malformed image tag. Andre 04:37, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Yes, I agree now. Before, it was ONLY a malformed image tag with no actual content whatsoever -Frazzydee 04:38, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  • Still doesn't have any content. Except for the picture, there's even less content than a B-Movie Bandit substub. If the guy can't contribute anything beyond the fact that this is a graphic novel, this doesn't belong here, IMO. - Lucky 6.9 04:59, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  • This could be a very good article (if more was added by someone who'd read the graphic novel). I was a comic book collector when Batman: The Dark Knight Returns came out and it was huge, I would imagine that in the comic book world this one would be too. The only reason this should be deleted would be if it's content were merged in with Frank Miller. I say keep it! Kevin Rector 05:09, Aug 20, 2004 (UTC)
I wholeheartedly agree with you. If we deleted all the short stubs that popped up on Wikipedia, they would never have the chance to grow into what they are today. As I said in the summary when I removed the cfd tag: If anybody thinks this article should be deleted, then please add it to VFD. There are obviously different opinions out there. -Frazzydee 05:12, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I don't know whether it's encyclopedic or not. All I know is that it isn't a cfd, and being the relative inclusionist that I am I would vote to keep it on VFD. If anyone wishes to list it though, be my guest. Andre 05:42, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Basically I agree with Frazzydee. Andre 05:43, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  • Looks good now. It's off to a nice start, but I still think that the onus needs to be on the original poster to contribute more than the fact that we're talking about a book. - Lucky 6.9 06:08, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
  • Considering the level of info added now, I'm removing the notability template tag. Kevin Rector 17:56, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)

Final paragraph makes no sense

Since I've never read the book, I can't correct it, but hte final paragraph as it stands makes absolutely no sense.

I've updated the synopsis after rereading my copy the other day; enough extra info? I've left out a couple of plot devices while still summarising the main story. Guybrush 00:38, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Additional Controversy

I like this section, but I've got two points:

  • the heading is vague and seems non-encyclopedic
  • maybe Miller's contribution to AARGH (Artists against rampant government homophobia) should be mentioned, as well as his homophobic themes in other comics (if the nazi gays in the original Dark Knight Returns, and in Ronin and Give me liberty can be interpreted as such). This topic is also addressed in 300. Maybe this should be in Frank Miller rather than in an article about a particular book. Sunnan 01:02, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Just saw that this text is already in Frank Miller. Don't know what to do now. Sunnan 01:02, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps I have an edited copy but I don't think it necessarily follows that Batman and Catgirl are going to embark on a sexual relationship in TDKSA. Dick Grayson calls her "the daughter he (Batman) never had" and Batman agrees with Dick's judgement on their relationship. Where does Batman declare his "sexualised" love? He certainly declares love but it is never explicitly "sexualised". Miller in an interview in a book of critical expositions on the Batman (can't remember the title but it was many years prior to TDKSA) actually described Batman as essentially asexual. He devotes all his energies, including his sexual energies, into his quest for justice. Miller notes that this is why most Batman stories with romance are weak. Miller contrasts him with the Joker as an individual who is almost entirely sexualized. Furthermore, where does it say Dick Grayson is gay in the Dark Knight Strikes Back? Certainly Miller has used gay serial killer themes before (e.g. his rendition of the Joker in TDKR) but I wasn't sure Dick was. Batman's gay-bashing isn't obvious to me either. He is definitely insulting, marked with condecension and false affection/maternalism to Dick but his insults don't seem specifically homophobic, but then perhaps I'm not up to speed on the latest phrases. Personally I judge the interpretations on this page as POV because they seem to be more based on what someone read into the text than what was actually written. That doesn't mean they're wrong of course, they just don't seem adequately substantiated. Panlane --82.38.227.22 13:23, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The comments have been removed from the Frank Miller page because they are POV, or highly speculative at best, either way it's something to be edited on this page. Logan1138 14:40, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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